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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:51 am

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Also for Flavor Leaf: why is Frank town? Is it purely because your scum read says he could be scum?
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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:18 am

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In post 1922, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1900, Krazy wrote:I don't even know, I'm too busy dealing with stupid townies and Frank has been missing for weeks so I have basically nothing to work with there. Maybe Frank, maybe not. Definitely Creature.

I'm somewhere like:
Town: Gamma, Naomi, LE, Saudade, FL, Rogers
Probably town but MIA which bugs me cause he's posting in another game: Duck
Probably not scum with Creature: Crimson
Who the fuck knows: Sasha, Profii
Maybe scum: Frank
Scum: Creature

So, one of LE/Saude, then one of Profii/Crimson is scum with you.

Got it.
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In post 1922, Flavor Leaf wrote:So, one of LE/Saude, then one of Profii/Crimson is scum with you.
Can you be more transparent about how you came to these conclusions? Mostly the second one
my guess is he is working on the principle that any given scum player will likely town read 1 mate and scum read the other

Which means he is PoE’ing Krazys town reads to people he thinks could be scum - you and Saudade

Then also the same for the non town reads - me and Crimson

Which means Fl is inferring he town reads anyone mentioned by Krazy outside of us 4


So the next thing to do is ISO dive FL to see if this marries up with his reads he has given so far - I suspect he is more than capable of not slipping in this way but I don’t recall being a particular scum read of FLs so I’m surprised not to be PoEd out of the equation and I might go have a little look at that
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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:29 am

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Those kind of reads are highly subjective and should be used to shore up reads obtained by other means.
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:40 am

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Whew. I have finally read this whole thread. I seriously dislike the fact that Gamma doesn't wish to do the same. Scum-coast points for Gamma.
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:24 pm

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@profii: I had a feeling that was what Flavor Leaf was doing. Frank is curiously absent even from being possible scum.
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:33 pm

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In post 1922, Flavor Leaf wrote:
So, one of LE/Saude, then one of Profii/Crimson is scum with you.

Got it.
Can you do a quick reads list that isn't contingent on pre-flip associations with me? Like what are your reads based on independent play?
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:45 pm

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In post 1928, Mister Rogers wrote:Whew. I have finally read this whole thread. I seriously dislike the fact that Gamma doesn't wish to do the same. Scum-coast points for Gamma.
I rarely read threads unless they aren’t super long or I feel driven to do it. Neither is the case here. Don’t apply your playstyle to me. Just because I’m not reading a bloated thread doesn’t fucking mean I’m coasting.
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:47 pm

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Admittedly, Flavor Leaf has been away, but does feel lazy. To me it reads "I've found scum and will then construct a scum list based on it. I don't even need to look elsewhere." That feels more like tunnelling than is warranted for Day 1.
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:48 pm

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Leafs reads rely on his meta on other players rather than content from this game so I really couldn't care less what he says anymore at this point
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Well, now pride's gone out the window
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:48 pm

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also lynch Sash
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:49 pm

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CARTHAGE MUST b E DESTROYED
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:53 pm

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In post 1931, Gamma Emerald wrote:Don’t apply your playstyle to me. Just because I’m not reading a bloated thread doesn’t fucking mean I’m coasting.
I don't think it's alignment indicative, but I think it's reasonable to call that coasting. There have been some noteworthy things that have happened that might be worth keeping in mind. It's also harder to read players without knowing what their interactions have been with other players. You joined the game and chose an active wagon to jump on and supported your choice. I do think that's a form of coasting.
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:54 pm

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In post 1933, Saudade wrote:Leafs reads rely on his meta on other players rather than content from this game so I really couldn't care less what he says anymore at this point
Is that how your games with him generally go, or is that specific to this game?
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:55 pm

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the only other game i've shared with him was a newbie game or something and I had no idea what im doing so I dont remember
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:52 pm

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In post 1931, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1928, Mister Rogers wrote:Whew. I have finally read this whole thread. I seriously dislike the fact that Gamma doesn't wish to do the same. Scum-coast points for Gamma.
I rarely read threads unless they aren’t super long or I feel driven to do it. Neither is the case here. Don’t apply your playstyle to me. Just because I’m not reading a bloated thread doesn’t fucking mean I’m coasting.
The your meta needs to change.
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:01 pm

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Next thing you know, you're going to be telling us that we should be thankful to have you?
In post 361, Quick wrote:
In post 356, nancy wrote:Quick, read game pls thx
Don't really want to. I usually don't even replace into games with 200+ posts, so you're lucky to have me as it is.
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:01 pm

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I wouldn't read a 78 page thread upon replacing in either
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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:02 pm

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And it's not alignment indicative in any way Rogers
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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:04 pm

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Well you know both you and FL are fond of throwing out these "words of wisdom" just because you feel like it. I am NOT going to get into the stupid NAI argument with anyone this game because it is freaking stupid as all burning heck. You believe what you want but its scum lazy to not help town by reading the thread, period.
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:07 pm

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No, it isnt.
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:13 pm

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In post 1172, Creature wrote:
In post 1170, Nauci wrote:
Creature replaces ManateeDude. Please welcome him!
Oh how unfortunate...
Creature, could you please explain the meaning of your post here? What is unfortunate?
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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:25 pm

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In post 1940, Mister Rogers wrote:Next thing you know, you're going to be telling us that we should be thankful to have you?
In post 361, Quick wrote:
In post 356, nancy wrote:Quick, read game pls thx
Don't really want to. I usually don't even replace into games with 200+ posts, so you're lucky to have me as it is.
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I’d read a game with 200 posts, and I’m not Quick, plus again that’s Quick’s playstyle.
And I’m not changing just because you say to. There are plenty of people who don’t mind the way I play, and plenty who play similarly as you seem to be aware of. So you are in the minority imo.
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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:27 pm

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In post 1943, Mister Rogers wrote:Well you know both you and FL are fond of throwing out these "words of wisdom" just because you feel like it. I am NOT going to get into the stupid NAI argument with anyone this game because it is freaking stupid as all burning heck. You believe what you want but its scum lazy to not help town by reading the thread, period.
I can point to a recent town and scum game where I’ve opted not to read despite the content being generated AFTER I entered the game. It’s fucking NAI and you making a big deal out of it makes an already unfavorable outlook on you worse.
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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:28 pm

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Regardless you should be doing SOMETHING. Did you see how I caught up? It works and I learned tonnes of useful stuff that you don't know about this game. I might be all myself on this entire site and you might be like "nya nya" about it but its not going to stop me from saying what is true.
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:29 pm

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Go ahead and bring your scum case then because you not reading is anti-town and scummy as flipping heck and ya that will be in my scum case against you too.
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