Mini Normal 2030: Day 8

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Crimson

[Flavor Leaf]

Rogers gonna come in with the chainsaw now

[Flavor Leaf]

Crimson, Rogers, then one other is the scum. Probably Sasha. Potentially Profii duping me, but I’ll cross that bridge when I get to it.

[Almost50]

Hello all. I see you there light, FL, GE, krazy, crimson, creat, a50, prof.
I'm sorry if I forgot anyone else.

I did a super quick skim and wow - anyone who didn't have saud as tr, shame on you . Could even tr him from before replacing and I was right, yes! Never been wrong about this except that 1 time I came into an SK slot.

In related news, GE pushing for a lynch on me when we have little time left, is very A L A R M I N G. I saw 1 claim in my skim.
Can people summarize what happened so far because I am not going thru an unreal 110 page d1... this is M E S S E D U P, why so many pages!?

Yaaawn
So you skimmed 100+ pages in how long? Seems infeasible.

Gamma, why do you keep doing this to me, brother? In every game we play together I try hard to not auto-SR you, and I wait until I see something conclusive, and in every game you manage to confuse me by doing something townie and mixing it with something scummy! Why is

skimming

100+ pages infeasible? Did you notice that he said it was done even before he replaced in? Do you know how long the replacement requests have been posted in the replacement thread?

[Flavor Leaf]

It seems like bratty Gamma which generally comes from TownGamma that gives me scum vibes, though.

[Creature]

I doubt we have a full vig with a full gunsmith with a full doctor

The doctor claim seems the less believable

[Creature]

Crimson, Rogers, then one other is the scum. Probably Sasha. Potentially Profii duping me, but I’ll cross that bridge when I get to it.

What about Gamma?

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma is the player I’m most familiar with followed by Creature, Worst, and Ducky.

For what it’s worth anyways.

Performer/A50 I’ve played with, and I’m familiar with, but wouldn’t say that weknow how to read each other insanely well, but familiar enough to handle each other.

[Creature]

Worst, and Ducky.

Are they the same?

[Flavor Leaf]

Crimson, Rogers, then one other is the scum. Probably Sasha. Potentially Profii duping me, but I’ll cross that bridge when I get to it.

What about Gamma?

In my bratty gamma post, i meant to bring up that Gamma could be in that Sasha slot as well, but from my familiarity with Gamma alone I was leaning town there

[Flavor Leaf]

Worst, and Ducky.

Are they the same?

Damn. I meant to say Profii and Ducky

[Flavor Leaf]

I doubt we have a full vig with a full gunsmith with a full doctor

The doctor claim seems the less believable

Krazy claimed odd, but yeah.

Full gunsmith makes sense with a scum doctor, though. More chances of the scum doctor being gunsmithed.

With an outed vig, killing a scum doctor guarantees that scum have to kill Ducky or have absolute confirmation in alignments with ducky

[Almost50]

@a50 it was saud was interacting with rogers iirc, the tone of his reactions, his interactions in his ISO with others. I rely on ISO a lot.

That doesn't help me much, but thanks for caring to respond.

I was more hoping for something like "he did this specific thing which in my experience he doesn't do as scum" or "as scum he does this (which he did) whereas as scum he does that (which he didn't)".

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t think Saudade has enough games on site to be able to do that with correctly.

I feel he has under 7 games, and I’ve been in like 4 of them, including being his IC for one of them.

[Flavor Leaf]

I guess I do have a good idea of how Saudade plays. I just feel he’s good at playing the same as either alignment, so I don’t think anything found on Day 1 would put him as scum l, if that makes sense.

[Almost50]

also I still don't know why Performer replaced Saudade slot over the worst slot

That's for the mod to know and for you to ask.

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess I do have a good idea of how Saudade plays. I just feel he’s good at playing the same as either alignment, so I don’t think anything found on Day 1 would put him as scum l, if that makes sense.

Again I think he’s playing differently to the normal we 3 were all in.

[Almost50]

Scum Doctor flip makes it so we can without a doubt trust any gunsmith investigative, too.

I see your point, but I have a problem with this "straight forward" theoretical process of thought: If Crimson flips Scum!Doc then both of Krazy/tw will be shot for sure. Sometimes I would rather leave someone alone to protect someone else. In this case

assuming

scum doctor is alive then -at least- one of the TPRs will stay alive because the doctor is supposed to be protecting them. If they both go down that's a guilty on the claimed doctor slot. (I hope I didn't send everyone looking for an English-Martian dictionary to decipher what I'm trying to say)

[Flavor Leaf]

I guess I do have a good idea of how Saudade plays. I just feel he’s good at playing the same as either alignment, so I don’t think anything found on Day 1 would put him as scum l, if that makes sense.

Again I think he’s playing differently to the normal we 3 were all in.

I’ve seen him scum as well, though, and it’s different here than there.

His games just evolving

[Krazy]

I guess I do have a good idea of how Saudade plays. I just feel he’s good at playing the same as either alignment, so I don’t think anything found on Day 1 would put him as scum l, if that makes sense.

afaik he has never replaced out as tpr or scum, and only replaced out of one game as VT, so ragequitting over not being able to get a lynch on Sasha is plausibly TI although the sample size is too low to be substantial

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m kind of okay with them being shot, tbh.

I don’t really want to have to argue people who think they are fake claiming, but I get the point.

I like doing risk/reward stuff, I guess, but when there’s more risk most people like to stray away.

That was a secondary point, though. I just feel Crimson is scum and want him lynched.

The PR’s can be shot anyways, because he can just go “oops protected the other one teehee”

[Flavor Leaf]

I guess I do have a good idea of how Saudade plays. I just feel he’s good at playing the same as either alignment, so I don’t think anything found on Day 1 would put him as scum l, if that makes sense.

afaik he has never replaced out as tpr or scum, and only replaced out of one game as VT, so ragequitting over not being able to get a lynch on Sasha is plausibly TI although the sample size is too low to be substantial

THats my point, yeah. Sample size too low

[Almost50]

VOTE: Crimson

OMG! This is the scummiest post/vote in your mafia history, mate. Since when do YOU vote claimed PRs for the lynch on D1 without a CC? I mean, you're one of the most orthodox players when it comes to town play theory, and I simply don't see you pushing for the lynch of a claimed PR here. Can you either elaborate or prove me wrong by linking a previous game on MAFIASCUM where you did this?

P.S. I am obviously not interested on games on "other sites" because the whole site meta is different there, so that's why I am asking for a link to a game on this site.

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess I do have a good idea of how Saudade plays. I just feel he’s good at playing the same as either alignment, so I don’t think anything found on Day 1 would put him as scum l, if that makes sense.

Again I think he’s playing differently to the normal we 3 were all in.

I’ve seen him scum as well, though, and it’s different here than there.

His games just evolving

Well unless you can demonstrate what I’m specifically pushing is something he did as scum as well I’m not dropping it.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Crimson

OMG! This is the scummiest post/vote in your mafia history, mate. Since when do YOU vote claimed PRs for the lynch on D1 without a CC? I mean, you're one of the most orthodox players when it comes to town play theory, and I simply don't see you pushing for the lynch of a claimed PR here. Can you either elaborate or prove me wrong by linking a previous game on MAFIASCUM where you did this?

P.S. I am obviously not interested on games on "other sites" because the whole site meta is different there, so that's why I am asking for a link to a game on this site.

We had been talking about it prior. I don’t really see it as unprecedented.