Open 736: Diffusion of Power - Game Over

[implosion]

eh i guess it was more of a sustained chuckle.

[Music and Mail]

idk the big thing for me is that you stopped posting and discarded your Buja scumread the moment that you replaced in.
Felt like you were scared of me. I haven't seen anything to actually be worth claiming a guilty on you over.

[implosion]

I've been really lazy this weekend. Fridays I'm usually pretty lazy and yesterday I was doing other things and didn't really want to spend energy on this game.

I don't know what you mean by "discarding that read" "the moment you replaced in". It was my first post in like two days, and it had been somewhat mulling in my head, and I haven't discarded it, it's just the kind of thing where I'm worried that it's my old mostly-gone bad habit of scumreading poor logic.

[implosion]

Why is skitter so low?

[Music and Mail]

because she's done nothing that I like and a lot that I don't like.

[implosion]

Name a couple dislikes.

[Almost50]

People aren't going to lay the fuck off of my slot if we don't set up a system like that and I'd prefer we not end up with something stupid like 3 people copping me the same night that I die.

Chances of there being 3 Cops acting at the same night are minimal. That said, I suggest any N1 Cop does it and get it done with. Hell, if it didn't sound scummy I would have asked that if there is a N1 Cop that they claim now so I can protect them and we know the alignment of your slot at the start of D2 (if there are more than one N1 Cop only ONE should claim though, as I can't protect you both).

You're claiming N1 doc?

^This proves you're not reading

[Not_Mafia]

[quote="In post 441
Postie is mostly going to be posting indirectly through passing reads on to me (and yall are gonna scumread the fuck out of that so I think it's near-mandatory that we set up cops on me).[/quote]

No one cares

[Music and Mail]

I HAVE TO PRESS ENTER LIKE 5 TIMES JESUS

Guys Unvote implosion yallre redicilus

this feels partner-y between carca and implosion

this is just one example but incredibly lazy and unthoughtful reads

i think this is kinda townie for how self-righteous/outraged he is and like how ... proud (is that the right word?) at having caught pp in what he believes to be a lie

it isn't a lie imo; i think the two of you are remembering the same event differently in some way and/or read the same sentence differently (pp says he never saw nm post this much; gamma says he did in that game but pp says it wasn't in the beginning of the game so the scenario is different; you're defining what 'active' means differently)

going to just let this stand and not explain my feelings on it

@bujaber: so implosion is townreading gamma; i don't think he's setting him up to being mislynched; you saying that kinda reads like you're trying to cast doubt on general pool of people scumreading gamma

what's bothering me about your carca vote is that you called it ballsy for scum to do and then voted her anyways; it also feels kinda incongruous to me

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implosion i'm tending towards town on you although i'm a little hesitant to flat out townread you at this time

instead of just reading your posts and going 'oh yeah this makes sense' it's more like you're coming to the same conclusions as me at like the same time; you picked up on what was bothering me about bujaber and also for how you read gamma/quote]

feel like she should have used stronger wording wrt bujaber
feel like her reluctancy to townread you is more likely from scum her than town her. your alignment not relevant here.

i read this like four times and i don't follow. implosion is scum for pushing town!gamma but what gamma did is nai (and thus gamma might be scum) so implosion isn't scummy for that anymore but if gamma is scum then implosion is too?

so you thus have a nullread on implosion even though he's scummy irregardless of gamma's alignment?

and what do i have to do with this and how am i scummier? and how did a50 become town here?

More trying to discredit than make any meaningful comment about it

uh no?

why should i trust carca's read more than gamma's/mine/creature's?

that wasn't the point here and I think town skitter would have seen it.

[Music and Mail]

i'm trying to figure out if there's a good way to get hypo-innos out there but haven't come to anything conclusive

i think that a cop giving a hypo-inno each day will be kinda confusing when they flip given that they may have given several hypo-innos at that point but only one (at most) is true

i'm kinda thinking that a cop with a guilty should out it tho given that everyone is one-shot

Cops claim after the fact, meaning the N1 Cop (if any) will out at the start of D2 and give us their result.

Everyone else remains fair game for scum. They may shoot a N5 Cop (and the game could end on D4) or may shoot a Doctor (regardless of what night they act that's not what scum need).

Now, you've seen me get NK'd as a claimed VT. Now it's time for you to witness me getting NK'd as a claimed N1 Doctor.

This is a lot easier to miss than you seem to think it is and it really wasn't discussed by others.

But, perfect!

I also claim N1 doctor.

Can a N1 cop claim and then I'll doc the cop, A50 will doc me?

[implosion]

lmao.

I don't actually mind any of your other reads, looking at it. I don't even really mind bujaber as strong town. Guess i'll mull some more.

[Music and Mail]

I messed up the formatting of my post on Skitter, read it carefully for what is mine.

@bujaber: so implosion is townreading gamma; i don't think he's setting him up to being mislynched; you saying that kinda reads like you're trying to cast doubt on general pool of people scumreading gamma

what's bothering me about your carca vote is that you called it ballsy for scum to do and then voted her anyways; it also feels kinda incongruous to me

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implosion i'm tending towards town on you although i'm a little hesitant to flat out townread you at this time

instead of just reading your posts and going 'oh yeah this makes sense' it's more like you're coming to the same conclusions as me at like the same time; you picked up on what was bothering me about bujaber and also for how you read gamma

feel like she should have used stronger wording wrt bujaber
feel like her reluctancy to townread you is more likely from scum her than town her. your alignment not relevant here.

i read this like four times and i don't follow. implosion is scum for pushing town!gamma but what gamma did is nai (and thus gamma might be scum) so implosion isn't scummy for that anymore but if gamma is scum then implosion is too?

so you thus have a nullread on implosion even though he's scummy irregardless of gamma's alignment?

and what do i have to do with this and how am i scummier? and how did a50 become town here?

More trying to discredit than make any meaningful comment about it

uh no?

why should i trust carca's read more than gamma's/mine/creature's?

that wasn't the point here and I think town skitter would have seen it.
also an extremely towny thought process for Bujaber

[Spooghetioso]

i am not a he spaghetti has no gender

also miltank when did they say it in subtext?

[Almost50]

I also claim N1 doctor.

Can a N1 cop claim and then I'll doc the cop, A50 will doc me?

If a N1 Cop claim then

sure!

[Spooghetioso]

okay thank you dr monkey but i think my vote already looked like everyones but my quote tag does not

[Not_Mafia]

i am not a he spaghetti has no gender

also miltank when did they say it in subtext?

Their posts

[Spooghetioso]

miltank i think you are just wasting my time and that you dont have answers so keep to delaying and not being specific

[teacher]

VOTE COUNT 1.5 and Updates

Deadline:

Sunset

9:00pm NYC on Thursday, October 4

, or

(expired on 2018-10-04 21:00:00)

With thirteen alive, it takes seven to lynch.

Player	Vote Total	Vote Identity
Almost50	1	Carcalilly 65
PenguinPower	2	Not_Mafia 76; BuJaber 399
Music and Mail	1	Creature 417
Creature	1	Music and Mail 418
Gamma Emerald	1	PenguinPower 245
BuJaber	3	implosion 232; skitter30 259; Gamma Emerald 279
Not_Mafia	0
CreativeMod1	0
implosion	0
Lovebird	0
Spooghetioso	0
Skitter30	0
Carcalilly	1	Spooghetioso 352

NOT VOTING:

Almost50 171; CreativeMod1; Lovebird

Spoiler: Votes since last votecount not reflected above

Creature voted Lovebird in 377

Mod Notes

• PenguinPower v/la through Monday
  
• Skitter30 v/la through Wednesday morning
  
• Skitter v/la Fridays and Saturdays generally

[Gamma Emerald]

If we're copping me D1 we're also setting docs on me or we're just not doing it.

You are not going to act as a functional lightning rod, no fucking way

[Spooghetioso]

this is just a idea and i dont know if it is good and we dont have to do it if it is bad but would it help if doctors who claim on a day get cop visited the next day so we know that they tell the truth?

so if someone says they are day 2 doctor on day 3 then day 3 cop checks that they told the truth?

[Almost50]

this is just a idea and i dont know if it is good and we dont have to do it if it is bad but would it help if doctors who claim on a day get cop visited the next day so we know that they tell the truth?

so if someone says they are day 2 doctor on day 3 then day 3 cop checks that they told the truth?

This can be arranged according to how the game is going. Let me not complicate matters for you by listing possibilities that may or may not happen.

[Music and Mail]

If we're copping me D1 we're also setting docs on me or we're just not doing it.

You are not going to act as a functional lightning rod, no fucking way

OK, then don't scumread me for stupid reasons.

[Almost50]

If we're copping me D1 we're also setting docs on me or we're just not doing it.

You are not going to act as a functional lightning rod, no fucking way

he's not acting like one. All we need if for one N1 Cop to confirm here and that'll be it. If there are any other Doctors/Cops acting on N1 they don't even need to claim and they can do whatever they like.

[skitter30]

Almost50 is most likely the third scum.

i think he's town tbh

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For the record the circumstances of my pred's replace out made me think the slot was scum, I was pleasantly surprised to be town.

This is pretty scummy.

yeah i was trying to figure out if this was some variant of amished

==

I think the logical thing to do is say that if I'm alive to D4, any D4 cops target me. If none of them claim with an inno on D5, all D5 cops target me

i think you should get copped well before n5; that could potentially leave you alive in lylo and i could totally see scum!you proclaim a town!n5 cop who guiltied you as scum and force a 1v1 there and that's like the last thing i ever want to see happen in lylo;

i'd much, much, much rather you get checked like tonight so that we can just get that out of the way as soon as possible

==

{Skitter30, Implosion}

lol no

==

feel like she should have used stronger wording wrt bujaber

feel like her reluctancy to townread you is more likely from scum her than town her.

your alignment not relevant here.

italics - i was hedging around implosion a bit for [reasons] that i can't talk about right now. i literally can't elaborate on that tho. why is it more likely to come from scum!me?
bold - this doesn't mean anything. what does 'stronger wording' mean and why is this scum indicative?

this is just one example but incredibly lazy and unthoughtful reads

no, i wrote that because i thought it was partner-y between implosion and carca; implosion had like two votes on him at that time and idk why carca's like second post was asking for those votes to be taken off of him

either way as of now i townread both of them to some degree or another so it's not super relevant

going to just let this stand and not explain my feelings on it

explain your feeligns on it

More trying to discredit than make any meaningful comment about it

no, i was saying that his thought process made like no sense to me

that wasn't the point here and I think town skitter would have seen it.
also an extremely towny thought process for Bujaber

i don't understand the point he was making so i asked about it; i don't get why that's a townie thought process.

all of this is a lot of 'feelings' and 'i think she would have used different wording' and 'lazy reads'. it's like buzzwords that sound nice but don't actually describe why anything i'm dong is scummy

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This is a lot easier to miss than you seem to think it is and it really wasn't discussed by others.

i mentioned this; stating that it wasn't really discussed by others when i brought it up as a reason to townread him but citing lots of my other posts as a reason to scumread me kinda makes me think that your'e selectively reading my posts because i definitely mentined it

why?

uh idk? i play with him a lot and i can just kinda tell usually and i kinda think he's town here

trying to quantify it: general enthusiam exhibited in posting +

(maybe seriously?) claiming in his first post

coupled with telling people to lynch him day4

==

I also claim N1 doctor.

Can a N1 cop claim and then I'll doc the cop, A50 will doc me?

If a N1 Cop claim then

sure!

if the cop claims and dies tonight i will do everything i can to get you lynched tomorrow

[Gamma Emerald]

If we're copping me D1 we're also setting docs on me or we're just not doing it.

You are not going to act as a functional lightning rod, no fucking way

OK, then don't scumread me for stupid reasons.

I wasn’t doing that