Mini Normal 2033: Dolphins (Game Over)

[GuerillaWoo]

Catch up continued I forgot to mention Flubbers iso because it was so bare. I'd like to see more from that slot asap.

Went through guerrillas iso I don't like how he u turns on saudade so quickly and without any real explanation why. I also don't like the pre flip associations and that his vote on my slot is purely down to gut especially when he has another scum read. Guerrilla why isn't your vote on LTVN and can you explain your read and progression on saudade?

Fairly happy with that wagon but I think I'd rather see Ezekel run up so far.

I didn't U-turn on Saudade. I had doubts about him, but he was, admittedly anti-town. In his own words, "trolling". I wanted him more active and he used the wagon to start an early PoE.

I can't remember any pre-flip associations I did. But I don't see why that's at all sus.

My vote on your slot wasn't down to gut. Anytime someone comes in, throws a dozen votes and reads without explanation, then quickly leaves and never responds, that's immediately either anti-town or scummy. Like I can't be blamed here for putting your slot in my sus pool.

My vote isn't on LTVN because Tommy asked me to move on from him. Although I'd like him lynched today, everyone seems blinded by him. Read his ISO and you'll see why

Also nah I'm not gonna explain my progression on Saudade, you're asking me about events that happened decades ago.

[GuerillaWoo]

Im calling you scum cuz I felt like you lied on me.

Town lie. Lying isn’t a scumtell.

Dude like I’ve already asked you earlier. Start taking this game seriously.

Wait I'm sorry, what did you lie about??

[Saudade]

This might be a little bit harder to solve than I originally thought

[Saudade]

Alright lets start sorting this out.
Re-reading
ProHawk - Town

[Saudade]

Alchemist21 town

[Saudade]

Gamma easy read as usual
town

[Saudade]

Aight I read the same 28 pages 3 times ill do some later

[Tommy]

UNVOTE: Wilky

My vote was based on the fact that DVa was lurking, which they said was because they didn't have time to play. The replace-out gives that a lot of weight.

Just took another look at EzekelRAGE. In my experience, when two players get into a flame war about some inconsequential thing, they're both town. I expect scum to pick accusations that they can sell.

@Wilky

, you say that you've derailed a previous game with a manufactured row. Can you link it?

I don't believe the row in this game has derailed much. We've largely ignored EzekelRAGE and Doughboy. I suppose if I'm looking for scum motivations for EzekelRAGE, there is the fact that he's been able to avoid giving analysis except in connection to the fight.

@EzekelRAGE

, can you reread all posts that don't mention your row with Doughboy and tell me what reads you can form from them on all players? Or on all players except Doughboy, let's say.

Unofficial vote count:

• GuerillaWoo (3) - LTVNGambit, Alchemist21, Gamma Emerald
  Wilky (2) - ProHawk, Doughboy
  EzekelRAGE (1) - Wilky
  Doughboy (1) - EzekelRAGE
  ProHawk (1) - Flubbernugget
  Not Voting (3) - Saudade, GuerillaWoo, Tommy

@GuerillaWoo

: why did you vote Flubbernugget? Why did you unvote him?

VOTE: prohawk

Flashwagon?

Yeah okay.

VOTE: ProHawk

My entire case on him is that he lurks.

[Gamma Emerald]

Alright lets start sorting this out.
Re-reading
ProHawk - Town

I’d like you to explain this

[GuerillaWoo]

@Tommy it was wilky's intro that sorta helped the vote. I realized that this dude played more catch up in like 30 mins than Flubber had since the game's start. Like if this wilky guy can come in and in less than a couple hours essentially go through the thread, why has he just been in the background for days? I felt he might be town earlier in the game cuz his absence was justifiable, almost got replaced, but if he's still here and a replacement is doing more, I'm not happy about it.

I unvoted cuz he came back to contribute and why even fucking bother scumreading or trying to wagon anyone. If no one's listening to me on Gambit, if no one's looking through his ISO seriously, I'm not helping anyone sort anything.

ProHawk is a good wagon. All the null low activity players are good.

[Gamma Emerald]

I recall ProHaek lurked our of his last scumgame I was present for

[Tommy]

@Mod, are you going to replace LTVNGambit? Will you be extending the deadline?

[EzekelRAGE]

Why would you lie on him as town?

Winner Winner, chicken dinner.

Wait I'm sorry, what did you lie about??

imo, everything he said about me in regards to last game. but I already went over that exhaustively. He's talking out of both sides of his mouth.
Everything I said was an opinion!............but if I did happen to lie about you.....you can't scumread me for it!!!

That’s actually not weak reasoning at all. Town want to stop arguing. Scum want it to fan the flames.

I think Ezekiel is calling the use of “this play is like my scumplay” weak, which I think is fair

Yes that is what I meant.

UNVOTE: Wilky
I don't believe the row in this game has derailed much. We've largely ignored EzekelRAGE and Doughboy. I suppose if I'm looking for scum motivations for EzekelRAGE, there is the fact that he's been able to avoid giving analysis except in connection to the fight.

@EzekelRAGE

, can you reread all posts that don't mention your row with Doughboy and tell me what reads you can form from them on all players? Or on all players except Doughboy, let's say.

I can see how I can be scumread for that. Will reread isos and give post later.

[GuerillaWoo]

Ezekel if I were interested in your opinion I'd have asked you

[EzekelRAGE]

Frustrated and snappy because you were almost lynched. I can understand.

[GuerillaWoo]

No, frustrated and snappy we're all still talking about you two's ego trip from like page 3.

[EzekelRAGE]

uhm, other than me and db its been largely ignored. Nice try though.

[GuerillaWoo]

Jfc you're insufferable

[Saudade]

Alright lets start sorting this out.
Re-reading
ProHawk - Town

I’d like you to explain this

can you take my words as gospel

[Saudade]

Tommy - Not a fan of his recent comment re: Saudade, sounded like a fabricated reason to get off Saudade. Could be scum.
DVa - Posts have been scummy, very probable scum - I'm voting here.
GuerillaWoo - I like his engagement, town read
Saudade - I looked back at his scum-game early on, granted it was his first scum game, but he is definitely a lot less crass than he is here. Leaning town
Flubbernugget - Need more.
LTVNGambit - Leaning town, haven't seen anything jumping out at me.
Alchemist21 - No real read here yet.... setting this in the null/sort pile
Gamma Emerald - No real read here either... setting this in the null/sort pile
Doughboy - Early town read. Still town.
EzekelRAGE - Posts feel town.

Majority of reads are from the gut, hard for me to engage stuff with all of the fighting going on in the thread.

its mostly this post because I share similar reads

[Saudade]

and the fact that i read everything else by him and nothing pinged me as too odd

[EzekelRAGE]

Alchemist - Same as before. Scum lean earlier because of dva slot lynch attempt. Feeling much better about him with posting. Prodding for information.
Tommy - Scum lean earlier for the same reason I did Alchemist. When Woo was going on because he misunderstood what I posted, stepped in and cleared the situation up. Townie lean for that since most scum may have just let it go on. Questioning of votes and trying to get ppl's perspective on things beside their main focus feels townie to me.
DvA - Null/Meh read
Wilky - Replacement for DvA. Nice intro into thread asking about reads and whatnot. Null for now.
-----In reply to your post 585 Had a slight scum lean on him and Tommy due to trying to lynch dva spot because of replacement angle.
Flubber - Null/Meh
Gamma - Null, unlike my previous null reads, gamma has enough posts for me to look at. I just don't know how to read them. Does try to comment on most topics at hand, which I give a slight town lean for.
GuerillaWoo - Already stated earlier why i had a scum lean on him. Didnt really bother to defend himself about what I said. So remains the same really. Only thing that has changed is he has grown more hostile. I don't care for the hostility he displays when things doesnt go his way. Main thing seems to be him vs Gambit.
Gambit - Null. Seems the bulk of his posts have to do with a misunderstanding between him and Woo. Now AWOL.
Prohawk - Null.
Saudade - Town lean

[GuerillaWoo]

I don't even know what you accused me of and honestly I don't care lol, you don't seem like the kind to be reasoned with. Keep your vote on me.

[Saudade]

Gorilla who is scum

[Saudade]

Is it one of the filthy lurkers