Mini Normal 2030: Day 8

[Performer]

Btwm, RE: Gamma, would a player of Gamma's skill bus NM?

I don't think bussing your p on D2 after your other p has been lynched on D1 is at all an option.

Sasha was one of my strongest suspects after the Crimson flip has been confirmed, so while I regret the death of TPR I really really can't blame Krazy for shooting there.

I also say it's very unlikely (from my own PoV) that Rogers is scum. I don't see scum going out of there way to defend Crimson that hard. He is most probably just a noob playing by the book. (Despite his join date he has less than 2K posts in total).

Back to mys suspects, I think Performer/Gamma have at least one scum in them (now that Sasha is gone). In my mind it was Performer+Sasha with Gamma as an outsider. I admit I still could be wrong about Gamma because I have a tendency to SR his playstyle of late, so not pushing there.

Also, I see N_M already accumulated 4 votes, so I think it's safe to

VOTE: Performer

for now, although I have yet to read beyond this post I'm quoting.

@Rogers: Check tw's read lists (he posted 2 of them). In both he had Sasha as a STRONG TOWN READ. That's not scum!tw. Scum!tw would have gone with the flow, and Sasha was by no means a global TR. I'm not gonna talk about his TR on Krazy and/or SR on Crimson because -if scum- his knowledge of their true alignments would dictate such reads (since they were both "claimed PRs"). Sasha didn't claim and thus I see no reason for tw to TR him this strong.

Anyway, will try to catch up in the next few minutes bc I have a game to watch and then come back to you.

I swear to God, if you end up actually being scum....

Rogers defending crims could've just been a deep LAMIST attempt. Kept telling us how people would look bad for voting a claimed doc and now crim flipped red, yeah , Rogers is looking mighty guilty now.

I did the wagonomics on Profii, he isn't scum for his VERY early interactions with the Crimson wagons.

No wonder nm didn't like your wagonomics wording

[Performer]

upon an ISO skim, I still don't see how GE is the scummiest possibility .

VOTE: M I S T E R R O G E R S

[Performer]

Not Mafia PLEASE. Check a better target than randomizing targets... you're killing me here.

[Mister Rogers]

OK, I think my vote is good where it is. Can totally see the NM/Performer here. Far less likely is Gamma involved in it at all; I mean one extremely obvious scum and and one subtle hiding scum? No, two obvious scum pursuing their agenda, just like my last game.

I'm ok with going first but just follow up with some combination of Performer/NM. I'll be highly surprised to only see one of them as scum.

Notice the irony here:

True story: I was thinking to myself, "If scum are going to attack me, its going to be on the wagon analysis".

WOW. Amazing "coincidence".

[Mister Rogers]

You saw how Sauda was majorly, well errrm, judgmental shall we say? Didn't like Worst scum skating and went ballistic on the guy.

[Mister Rogers]

And then don't forget this:

What like Sauda will freaking never stop macro-pasting that post in my face if I don't finish this hot steaming pile of information packed mafia content. XD

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

we dont lynch PR claims day 1

[Gamma Emerald]

@Mod VC please

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, if Almost actually ends up being scum.

Like he’s playing in such a way, I don’t even feel like dealing with that possibility


@Not Mafia - check Almost tonight. Him being confirmed will be great.

[Mister Rogers]

@Not Mafia: Can you self check please?

[Mister Rogers]

[Light Ethos]

I did the wagonomics on Profii, he isn't scum for his VERY early interactions with the Crimson wagons.

Can you list which interactions brought you to that conclusion?

[profii]

Is anyone contemplating a setup where Krazy and Rogers were supposed to claim vig with each other

Then N_M and Sash were supposed to cast doubt over both claims potentially assuming either got results


I think that fits - then to factor in the masons - they become like a double vote as they may trust each other in PT then if say the scum side convince the masons of their vig claim it gives them essentially a double vote which could devastate town


So I’m saying Rogers and N_M without checking the wagons just on setup spec

[Almost50]

@Not Mafia - check Almost tonight. Him being confirmed will be great.

I wanted to propose this before, but then realized it won't "clear" me. If you're right about scum having a Doctor; I could be it. Even if they don't have one, we don't know that yet. All in all, those who want to Sr me will find a way to do it.

Now I could actually prove my towniness using self-meta, but that would only convince you and not everyone else. Furthermore, not only do people don't trust self-meta, but me using the argument would require me to reveal something in my scum play that I haven't been able to implement into my town play yet. In other words, it could prove devastating to my scum game in the foreseen future.

[Gamma Emerald]

Is anyone contemplating a setup where Krazy and Rogers were supposed to claim vig with each other

Then N_M and Sash were supposed to cast doubt over both claims potentially assuming either got results


I think that fits - then to factor in the masons - they become like a double vote as they may trust each other in PT then if say the scum side convince the masons of their vig claim it gives them essentially a double vote which could devastate town


So I’m saying Rogers and N_M without checking the wagons just on setup spec

What are you even saying

[profii]

Krazy is vig

IF Rogers is scum

They are neighbours

So when the setup was designed there was probably no mass claim in mind

So start of day 1 = 2 night kills = potential for Krazy & Rogers to both say “that was me” in relative private

Then on top of that 2 PRs (cop and gunsmith) that can reveal a bit more about some kill claims

[Mister Rogers]

I did the wagonomics on Profii, he isn't scum for his VERY early interactions with the Crimson wagons.

Can you list which interactions brought you to that conclusion?

1785

The actions of Profii and myself are identical regarding Crimson.

[Almost50]

I did the wagonomics on Profii, he isn't scum for his VERY early interactions with the Crimson wagons.

Can you list which interactions brought you to that conclusion?

1785

The actions of Profii and myself are identical regarding Crimson.

Mate, anyone could vote their partner for distancing when the wagon isn't even that serious. The thing is he tried to defend Crimson (by stating there was no resistance to his wagon) while actively voting there. He then sheeped you into voting Krazy as soon as Crimson claimed.

tl;dr: If anything, that VC you quoted is NAI.

[Mister Rogers]

Sorry but I don't see it that way. There is no reason to start a lurker vote on a buddy late in the day when other options are available. I will not hold him scum because of that action.

Of course its true that I have town read him for all but the very start of the game but that is beside the point.

[Flavor Leaf]

i still feel like Performer is the play today.

[Almost50]

I also want Performer and really hope he flips red, because then it puts my mind to ease for good regarding Rogers. I mean, I gave him slack for defending Crimson, but if profii is also scum I'm PLing Rogers for his defence of profii based on a "3rd vote on scum wagon which he changed soon after".

In other words I could see it being profii+Rogers but it would make me laugh at myself being the VI here.

[Mister Rogers]

Sorry, but we both changed soon after and the reason is because he claimed Doc!

Maybe its because you weren't there at the time and really haven't read that section of the game the way it actually played out but this wasn't a casual time early in the day or even the middle of the day but this was GO TIME at the end of the day when votes mattered for lynch. I guess I should give you slack because you are a late replace in D1?

[profii]

I think my play yesterday was Crim/TW//Krazy but Saudade was making so much noise about not lynching PR claims

I’m doing a lot of setup spec but I don’t actually know where to go today - I think it’s essential we pick a lynch which forces scum to also kill somewhere that helps PoE tomorrow

Gut feels is Performer would be no problem but need to check

[Almost50]

If you want to force the scum hand you need to actually ask N_M to check Rogers. If we do have a doctor they should be on FL still. This way scum will have to shoot in N_M/Rogers regardless. (If one is scum and one is Town they have to shoot the town one to cover for the scum. If both are town they still need to shoot between the two to avoid having another clear outed).

[Mister Rogers]

Why is this phrased "you need to"? This is so unnatural sounding?

[Mister Rogers]

Well anyway, I see you voted Performer which is good and I don't think your scum so, w/e.