Mini Normal 2030: Day 8

[Almost50]

Why is this phrased "you need to"? This is so unnatural sounding?

He wants to force the scum hand, so he would have to do so and so. What's unnatural about the phrasing?
If you mean I should have used

we

instead then it's up for debate, because FL already asked N_M to check ME. The same applies if you wanted me to use

I

instead. Basically, if

I

ask N_M to check you it would look like

I

don't want to be checked.

[Mister Rogers]

Oh aha, good point. Totally missed that but it really is only something that can be understood by the person themselves and so ya that sounds more than quite genuine.

[Almost50]

How would scum "know" you're for real?

no third parties, while townies do sometimes fakeclaim vig to bait a nightkill, I don't think he would think me claiming vig at L-2 would be a vanilla townie claiming vig. I think if you're scum and you know I'm not scum then you know I'm vig, and profii is the only person who seemed to reach that conclusion and start playing around me at the time

@PL: How about we switch to profii? That's where Krazy was most suspicious going into the night and profii almost hinted cop while we now do have a flipped cop. What do you think?

[Mister Rogers]

You are making a huge mistake. Don't throw this game with like no evidence that Profii is scum here except some kind of bizarre paranoia. Stick to the plan with NM/Performer, they each have no reason to be town and are in everybody's POE.

[Mister Rogers]

Krazy freaking vigged our Cop! If you gave me the night shot scum would have went down last night not our Cop! Nobody but FL and Me saw that.

[profii]

How would scum "know" you're for real?

no third parties, while townies do sometimes fakeclaim vig to bait a nightkill, I don't think he would think me claiming vig at L-2 would be a vanilla townie claiming vig. I think if you're scum and you know I'm not scum then you know I'm vig, and profii is the only person who seemed to reach that conclusion and start playing around me at the time

@PL: How about we switch to profii? That's where Krazy was most suspicious going into the night and profii almost hinted cop while we now do have a flipped cop. What do you think?

I did it at least twice to draw the night kill - hard claim not cop obviously

[profii]

FWIW I read A50 as trying to help me with “my” plan to force scum into a corner hence the phrasing “you need to”

No problem here

[Gamma Emerald]

Krazy freaking vigged our Cop! If you gave me the night shot scum would have went down last night not our Cop! Nobody but FL and Me saw that.

Who would you have shot? He couldn’t have know Sasha was cop.

[Almost50]

Stick to the plan with NM/Performer

N_M is/was never in my plan.

[Mister Rogers]

Krazy freaking vigged our Cop! If you gave me the night shot scum would have went down last night not our Cop! Nobody but FL and Me saw that.

Who would you have shot? He couldn’t have know Sasha was cop.

Then why did me and FL know it? Sure, not even the scum knew it and I would have vigged from Yourself or Performer. I would have had to make a decision on what was worse somebody faking a catchup or someone not caring whether he caught up or not. In the back of my mind (because I didn't have the shot) I was thinking Performer actually.

[Mister Rogers]

Stick to the plan with NM/Performer

N_M is/was never in my plan.

Everybody saw how bad that claim was. The only reason he isn't lynched is because despite that, we cannot be 100% certain he is scum and he supposedly has a role that might be able to "help" us; I don't believe he is town GS though.

[Gamma Emerald]

What told you Sasha was the cop? As for the shots okay then. Did Krazy discuss his choice with you at all?

[Mister Rogers]

No because we couldn't trust each other. I couldn't tell him that Sasha was Cop and he couldn't tell me that he was going to vig him.

I already quoted his crumb that me and FL caught early D1. Its his 4th post.

[Gamma Emerald]

No because we couldn't trust each other. I couldn't tell him that Sasha was Cop and he couldn't tell me that he was going to vig him.

I already quoted his crumb that me and FL caught early D1. Its his 4th post.

You didn’t trust Krazy? If he was scum fakeclaiming then it would have shown. Let’s say He was and you told him Sasha was cop. Do you not think Sasha dying and no one else wouldn’t look extremely suspicious?

[Mister Rogers]

Ya but the scum don't have to kill him N1 and they then know who the Cop is. You can see where I post in thread "I haven't given Krazy all what I know though".

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean you have a point, if he killed you the trail would have gone cold

[Nauci]

Vote Count 2.1

Performer

(Saudade)

(3) -

Flavor Leaf 3242

,

Almost50

(FrankJaeger)

3255

,

Mister Rogers

(doughboy)

3278

Mister Rogers

(doughboy)

(2) -

Not_Mafia

(The Worst, RockyHorror)

3307

,

Performer

(Saudade)

3326

Not_Mafia

(The Worst, RockyHorror)

(2) -

Gamma Emerald

(UC Voyager, Pernicious Parrot)

3213

,

profii

3214

,

Creature

(ManateeDude)

3217

,

Mister Rogers

(doughboy)

3227

Gamma Emerald

(UC Voyager, Pernicious Parrot)

(1) -

profii 3244

UNVOTE/Not Voting (2) -

Naomi-Tan 3212

,

Light Ethos 3212

Full vote records are in the OP.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2018-10-07 08:00:00).

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Mod Notes

Apologies for the delayed VC. Wasn't able to get to my computer for the last couple of days.

[Mister Rogers]

What I told Krazy was to take the best shot he could because if he chose well, he could identify scum with the single kill. That's all I could say.

[Mister Rogers]

As it turned out both Krazy (fakeclaim) and Sasha (scumcrumb) were in my PoE list so even though it was a horribad vig, it worked out quite well anyway.

[Mister Rogers]

@Mod: I have my vote on Performer.

Vote: Performer

Oops not sure how I noted that down wrong. Fixed!

[profii]

It’s a bit weird that someone noticed I was messing about with cop references - which got spotted as I was quite blatant about

You spotted a sash crumb which almost no one spotted

But you didn’t say in the PT - well one of Sash / prof is lying

[Light Ethos]

Learning moment: clearly Flavor Leaf and Mister Rogers saw that this was a crumb:

Green: Naomi mainly because of post 166
Doughboy mainly because of post 129

Null: Flavor

Red: Saudade because I think Doughboy is green and he looks TOO helpful to me.

I'm eagerly waiting for ManateeDude to come back (puppet?)

As for the others, all I can see is a lot of crosstalk that doesn't tell ME anything (it's only my 4th game) but you guys might see it differently.

I hope night 1 will be interesting, I feel blind right now.

I didn't. What made you know that it was a crumb for a power role? What made you know that it was a cop crumb?

For the moment, out of the people that aren't cleared, I'm most comfortable with going for Performer. I leaned town on Saudade, but the results of the flips make his first day look worse. He very well might have been framed that's how bad it is. The following reasoning has been stated by others since the start of Day 2, but I agree with it. His proposed scum team was Sashaddin/Krazy/the worst, and he wasn't willing to budge on Sasha or the worst. He also gave cover for Crimson and the worst by emphatically asserting that we weren't going to vote out any power role claims Day 1. One of them flipped scum. If we can't vote out power role claims, the only alternative is that we shove people to L-1 until we get VT claims, which helps out scum. I also do not see the Mister Rogers vote making sense here from Performer, and I already didn't believe the worst's claim. For me, those are two of the main people in my pool, and Performer has less impact from a backfire than Not_Mafia here.

VOTE: Performer

L-2

[Mister Rogers]

I am having serious problems understanding this post, so let's pick it apart because I feel like am back in geometry class in high school again...

It’s a bit weird that someone noticed I was messing about with cop references - which got spotted as I was quite blatant about

Ok so here you are clearly making reference to Almost who wants to vote you because you made (?)fake cop claims(?), right?

You spotted a sash crumb which almost no one spotted

Ok however, here you are making reference to myself spotting Sasha's crumb.

But you didn’t say in the PT

Ok, so again still talking about ME here...

- well one of Sash / prof is lying

So like Sash is dead and like how did Prof get into this equation all of a sudden?

[Mister Rogers]

Learning moment: clearly Flavor Leaf and Mister Rogers saw that this was a crumb:

What made you know that it was a crumb for a power role? What made you know that it was a cop crumb?

Once you get experience with crumbing, you know that people will make it kind of cryptic to avoid being noticed by a casual glance BUT be definitely obvious to anyone examining it directly (in case the player should get wagoned and need to prove his claim).

Now here he makes reference to NIGHT ONE -- this is clearly where town power roles will operate and then says that he "feels BLIND" -- clearly referencing SIGHT (i.e. a cop peeking) and "RIGHT NOW", meaning that when N1 hits, he will no longer be blind. Again, this looks like "normal townie frustration" to the casual reader but is a clear crumb to anyone looking for it.

[Mister Rogers]

LOL. I think someone has been :drunkposting: again...