A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6


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Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:11 am

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Is there any questions from me you want me to answer tonight?

As I said earlier I had to literally code and launch an application 24/7 in past few days (I was the project manager) and then live support period started.

I'm exhausted to the very core and want to watch a movie and sleep -.- I'll be around more next day phase

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Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:13 am

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In post 1849, jjh927 wrote:Why is Vecna towny?
I mean I believe his ic claim and his "wait a day" thing

if you remember I was the first one who even suggested a way to communicate with him and I disappeared right after that. I was not around when the whole debate about him started.

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Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:13 am

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Saying he's towny made me think you had other things besides the ic claim lmao
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Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:16 am

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I don't find his bunghole towny no

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Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:16 am

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In post 1853, Rylai and Lina wrote:I don't find his bunghole towny no

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Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:38 am

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In post 1815, RadiantCowbells wrote:A guilty has been declared!

A Story Revisited


Votecount 1.73:

KuroiXHF (0):
Mastina (0):

Not Voting: Vecna, Sora, Shiro, Invisibility, Lady Angel, Gamma Emerald, Nosferatu, jjh927, Innocent Children, Porkens, Mastina, Skygazer, Vaxkiller,
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, Chickadee, Whemestar, Ginngie, Maid Cafe, Nicorobin, Nero Cain, randomidget, Titus, KuroiXHF

With 21 alive it's 12 to lynch.

The day will end in (expired on 2018-09-27 04:00:00).

Deadline has been extended to a minimum of 48 hours.
…WELL THEN.
VOTE: No Lynch.
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Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:40 am

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Kinda regret not going for Chickadee, now. Kuroi was in my lynch list, but wasn't really a scumread; I shoulda just gone for Chickadee.
But OH WELL. What's done is done; there's always tomorrow.
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Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:49 am

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In post 1827, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, true her "i'll use my ability on who the majority of players want dead!" is a bit LAMIST but I'd like to know what you are thinking Gin.
LAMIST implies that it's something done for towncred, rather than done on simple principle, for policy. Gladiating the lead lynch is the only usage of my power which isn't dictating the lynch. If I gladiated a vanity wagon or even a player with no votes, I'd be controlling the lynch.

This is the same reason I waited until just before deadline. Gladiating earlier in the day would lock us into one option, where by waiting, a better one can present itself.

There's no towncred to be had in doing what is, frankly, the ONLY appropriate action.
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Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:53 am

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In post 1843, jjh927 wrote:VOTE: No lynch
Let's not be stupid
Mastina is town and we're doing this every day
I DO need to be lynched EVENTUALLY in order to verify my results are legitimate. But that should be the day before our earliest lylo. Worst case scenario of six scum, that's 13 alive as lylo, so I gladiate and am lynched at the 15/16 player mark. Agreed?
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Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:58 am

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Ooooh. I see.

So if I'm town, Mastina must be town, which is what I already thought.

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Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:01 am

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It's actually the other way around

If Mastina is town, you are confirmed town.

But Mastina is town.
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Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:09 am

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That's what I meant lol.
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Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:05 am

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VOTE: None Lynching
Invisibility is actually AWESOME!
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Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:58 am

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That seems breakable to be able to do that every day..but ok

VOTE: Mastina
I volunteer for tomorrow, since you regret not gladiating me Mastina.
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Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:00 am

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In post 1857, mastina wrote:
In post 1827, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, true her "i'll use my ability on who the majority of players want dead!" is a bit LAMIST but I'd like to know what you are thinking Gin.
LAMIST implies that it's something done for towncred, rather than done on simple principle, for policy. Gladiating the lead lynch is the only usage of my power which isn't dictating the lynch. If I gladiated a vanity wagon or even a player with no votes, I'd be controlling the lynch.

This is the same reason I waited until just before deadline. Gladiating earlier in the day would lock us into one option, where by waiting, a better one can present itself.

There's no towncred to be had in doing what is, frankly, the ONLY appropriate action.
There's no town cred in going with the flow and doing what the majority want? Get out of here with that bullshit.
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Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:01 am

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In post 1863, Chickadee wrote:VOTE: Mastina
I volunteer for tomorrow, since you regret not gladiating me Mastina.
how can she gladiate you if she's dead?
THIS
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Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:04 am

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chickadee nyceee scumclaim
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Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:21 am

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In post 1864, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1857, mastina wrote:
In post 1827, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, true her "i'll use my ability on who the majority of players want dead!" is a bit LAMIST but I'd like to know what you are thinking Gin.
LAMIST implies that it's something done for towncred, rather than done on simple principle, for policy. Gladiating the lead lynch is the only usage of my power which isn't dictating the lynch. If I gladiated a vanity wagon or even a player with no votes, I'd be controlling the lynch.

This is the same reason I waited until just before deadline. Gladiating earlier in the day would lock us into one option, where by waiting, a better one can present itself.

There's no towncred to be had in doing what is, frankly, the ONLY appropriate action.
There's no town cred in going with the flow and doing what the majority want? Get out of here with that bullshit.
Correct, there is absolutely none.

Maybe it'll help you if I explain it this way:
If a player dictates the lynch, they should have the competency to justify their tyranny; their reads must be good enough to warrant that they be followed.
Do you disagree with that?

Of course not; it's self evident. If you control the lynch, you damn well better be good enough where doing so is not a mistake. This, we can agree on, yes?

Okay.
So we agree that to dictate the lynch, it requires competency. With this established.

I am a player who is only situationally competent, at best. Overall I am thoroughly mediocre, no better than random and perhaps even worse than random, especially at this early stage of the game.

Do you disagree with my self assessment? Because I think that it's fairly reasonable to say that I am not that good; my poor track record speaks for itself.

Okay.
So we've now established that I am not competent.

Well then. What happens when you combine both of these together? The obvious: because dictating the lynch requires competency, and I am not that competent, the conclusion is simple; I should not be dictating the lynch.

So it then follows.
If I don't dictate the lynch, who does?

The town. Self evidently so. It's a no duh type thing.

Conclusion. If I use my power. I use it on the person who the town dictates.

Simple.

Now, can you honestly say that you disagree with any of what I have said?

Because if not. Then my decision is quite self explanatory. Not done for towncred; done because it is the only appropriate usage of the role.
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Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:23 am

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In post 1866, Invisibility wrote:chickadee nyceee scumclaim
Also, this.
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Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:21 pm

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In post 1865, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1863, Chickadee wrote:VOTE: Mastina
I volunteer for tomorrow, since you regret not gladiating me Mastina.
how can she gladiate you if she's dead?
THIS
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We no lynch.


And idgaf if you guys think it's a scum claim. When the gladiator works I won't hear anything from you guys.

Mastina, if you don't gladiator me tomorrow, I'm taking it as a scum claim from you. I claim to be one of your biggest scum reads, yet you didn't choose me today. You have a chance tomorrow to either clear me or condemn me. Take it and sort me once and for all, or stop pushing me.
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Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:45 pm

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The thing people are getting at is that you voted Mastina lmao
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Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:24 pm

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Because we need mastina to flip to confirm the results. I have a hard time believing that Mastina's role is unlimited. That's just an immediate public day-cop result. Mastina herself said there are things she wouldn't reveal until later.
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Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:26 pm

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VOTE: no lynch


yeah mafia has to kill mastina

might as well milk mastinas role lol
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Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:43 pm

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Oh shit that wasn't a mistake?

lol that's a scumclaim
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Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:50 pm

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In post 1863, Chickadee wrote:That seems breakable to be able to do that every day..but ok

VOTE: Mastina
I volunteer for tomorrow, since you regret not gladiating me Mastina.
If you're volunteering for tomorrow, why vote for her?

VOTE: No lynch
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