Open 736: Diffusion of Power - Game Over


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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:20 pm

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Which? If you mean replace out completely, then I certainly can do without that. If you mean replacing myself with AP; that should work in your favour actually. AP is more likely to sheep you without second guessing any of your reads. Austin Powers relies on his mojo more than his brain! :lol:

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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:21 pm

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I mean I'm fine with that.

I just really don't want you to go berserk and try to policy lynch CreativeMod1 who I think is town.
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:21 pm

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I have a replacement player already waiting in the queue. They will get first dibs on any spot that gets vacated for any reason.
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:21 pm

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I’m not exactly saying I’m wiser, I just simply want to get discussion on who should be checked based on who people think are scum, is that really so much to ask?

Also whilst yes I’m new to this site I’m not exactly new to the game, I understand how the game works and I understand why people want me to check M&M
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:22 pm

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In post 1478, CreativeMod1 wrote:I’m not exactly saying I’m wiser, I just simply want to get discussion on who should be checked based on who people think are scum, is that really so much to ask?

Also whilst yes I’m new to this site I’m not exactly new to the game, I understand how the game works and I understand why people want me to check M&M
You're good dude. But you really should cop me.
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:24 pm

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In post 1477, teacher wrote:
I have a replacement player already waiting in the queue. They will get first dibs on any spot that gets vacated for any reason.
I would argue that the spot isn't vacated. It's the same player. Same as when one hydra head flakes and the hydra is replaced with the active head of the two.

But if you insist then I will stay as A50 and simply won't count the game towards my stats nor will I include it in my wiki. Your call.

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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:28 pm

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A50, you sound like a kid right now, you sure this isn’t your troll account?

Ooo I’m so sorry that I have an opinion on who I should or shouldn’t check, I’m so sorry that I’m not just sleeping everyone else

If you’re gonna get upset and decide that a game won’t count to your stats just because someone has a different viewpoint to your own then you’re playing the wrong game here
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:31 pm

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In post 1480, Almost50 wrote:Same as when one hydra head flakes and the hydra is replaced with the active head of the two.
Examples please? This is a foreign request for me, so I'm trying to process it in a manner that is fair to the gamestate (which A50 not AP has been playing) but also allows everybody including you to have fun. If such substitution is done on MS, that will help me resolve the request.
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:32 pm

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It's not really vacating the slot and it's not something new, it was more that it read to me as him expressing intent to stop taking the game seriously which I didn't like. if he's still gonna tryhard that's fine.
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:35 pm

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A50 are you being serious? You wanna swap to a troll account just simply because I’ve put forward a different viewpoint?
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:41 pm

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In post 1484, CreativeMod1 wrote:A50 are you being serious? You wanna swap to a troll account just simply because I’ve put forward a different viewpoint?
It's not a "troll account" in the sense that I don't play the game. It's trolly only because I use humour, sarcasm and Austin Powers memes all the time. You can do a search on AP to verify I still play the game properly under it, but the posting style is significantly different.

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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:43 pm

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Anyway

@Mod: It's fine either way. I'll follow your rules. It's
your
game. :)

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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:45 pm

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So what’d be the point of the change?

Also out of curiosity, other than M&M who would you have me check?
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:52 pm

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In post 1487, CreativeMod1 wrote:So what’d be the point of the change?

Also out of curiosity, other than M&M who would you have me check?
The point is/was to express my feeling more freely without really insulting anyone. For example:

Image

Is far better than saying the same thing in typing! :wink:

And I would want M&M checked afr more than I'd want anyone else, because it's healthy for the game status as a whole, not just for my own reads. Like I suspect Nicolas Cage and Spooghetsio, but we can lynch those without checks. People suspecting/paranoid of M&M will probably bring the whole town down. Them being confirmed will help others follow their reads/logic and they may still argue one way or another but will
know
they're mot being deceitful.

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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:54 pm

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CM1 wrote:I’m not exactly saying I’m wiser, I just simply want to get discussion on who should be checked based on who people think are scum, is that really so much to ask?
I understand this, but you've gotten that discussion, and I don't think anyone has expressed an opinion other than copping M&M.

RC, walk me a bit through the internals of your change on skitter. Did you initially read her reaction to you as townish? If so then what was the process of reconsidering it? If not, then what have you changed your mind on being townish/why were you faking a townread?
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:00 pm

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I never changed that read: if you go back I clearly stated that I never stopped scumreading her and I just lost interest on pushing her without trying to sort her while she knew I was town.
I decided to just put her as town because I expected to be able to deal with her as soon as I became conftown and it wasn't really worth pursuing today. (and had a guaranteed day 2)
Her knee jerk scumread of me is something she's perfectly capable of doing as scum and I said so at the time but her interacting with me in a more give-take way isn't something I will misread her on.
So again, the idea is that I just put the matter to bed until I'm conftown and try to sort other people.

I've just gradually become more and more certain that she's scum over time and if there's even a chance that Creativemod1 isn't going to cop me I want to make it clear that's the direction I'm going tomorrow.
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:02 pm

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If it weren't for Creativemod getting antsy I would have gone to tomorrow putting her in the townpool and then just lynched her tomorrow.
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:06 pm

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And bluntly I don't want to go through the hassle of convincing you all that your townread on her is wrong so I'd rather just claim conftown and lynch her as such.
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:13 pm

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i also vibe spooghettioso/skitter interactions as having high probability of being SvS which is why I've been pushing for that lynch so much.
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:15 pm

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(like that's
literally the only thing
behind my enthusiasm of lynching spooghettioso tbh)
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:16 pm

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I'm personally not planning to sheep you blindly when you're conftown and I doubt most of the rest of the town is either, so. I know that makes the game the best for you, but it doesn't make it interesting for anyone else. I know fypov that can be an annoying thing to hear when the last game i played as scum my tact was literally to appeal to everyone except you in the game to not listen to you, but again, i'm here to play mafia, not to watch you play solitaire.

I am definitely willing to reconsider skitter though.

From my impression of last game, basically, her reaction to you was something like:
1) "Oh boy this will be fun" followed by a big wall in reaction to your big wall on her,
2) scumreading you because she said it looked like you were setting up associatives between me and her in a scummy way
3) continuing to interact with you as you continued calling her scum with me
4) eventually you explicitly state your scumread on her has gone away

Which part of this sequence do you think she's failed to fake accurately here? All of it, or is some specific part of her reaction particularly damning?
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:21 pm

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In post 1495, implosion wrote:3) continuing to interact with you as you continued calling her scum with me
she chose the sole avenue of play that didn't require her to actually interact meaningfully with me because she knows that she's incapable of interacting meaningfully with me
it's also a fact that I hard scumread her before we interacted and it's also a fact that I hard scumread all the content that she produced after our spat

there's also the fact that thinking skitter is town means thinking that she's objectively really fucking
silly
.
voting me is terrible because I'm being copped, voting me is terrible because she knows she can't read me, yet she comes in and claims an 80% scumread and tries to push me. why?

like there's nothing towny about her play to my understanding of her meta that has never failed me and you know these facts
so for you
not
to be willing to sheep me on Skitter as conftown is kind of silly.
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:21 pm

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also you're doing a lot of talking about things as whats and ignoring the hows and the whys.
I tried to respond by talking about the what but factually skitter is scum not for the what but for the whys and hows.
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:24 pm

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In post 1493, Music and Mail wrote:i also vibe spooghettioso/skitter interactions as having high probability of being SvS which is why I've been pushing for that lynch so much.
VOTE: Spooghetsio

I can sheep you on this one today. No problem.

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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:25 pm

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spoogh townflip doesn't mean you don't trust my skitter read.

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