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Post Post #3475 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:26 am

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i wanna vote NM or A50 just off VCA.
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Post Post #3476 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:32 am

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In post 3473, Not_Mafia wrote:I didn't get a result
Who was your target?

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Post Post #3477 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:36 am

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If you were Creature and someone else said “we’re masons”

Why wouldn’t your reaction be “wtf lynch all liars”
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Post Post #3478 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:43 am

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If you were scum and someone else was being mislynched

Why would you claim you're mason with them?
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Post Post #3479 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:44 am

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In post 3477, profii wrote:If you were Creature and someone else said “we’re masons”

Why wouldn’t your reaction be “wtf lynch all liars”
1- Because I'm Town and Scum wouldn't fake Masons with me to save
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2- Because I'm scum and it benefits me anyway.

IMHO 1 >>>>> 2. Why? Because if Creature is scum it would be most stupid to shoot the one person who was 100% TRing him to the point of faking Masons with him. Scum!Creature would ride that claim to LyLo and if push came to shove would lynch FL for the win.

Like, seriously.. what are the benefits for Scum to shoot FL now??

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Post Post #3480 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:44 am

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In post 3473, Not_Mafia wrote:I didn't get a result
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Post Post #3481 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:45 am

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In post 3478, Creature wrote:If you were scum and someone else was being mislynched

Why would you claim you're mason with them?
FL does this - good deflection though
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Post Post #3482 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:46 am

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Also, N_M could have returned a guilty on Creature, which would have meant we lynch them BOTH, i.e. that was a guaranteed mislynch for scum in FL if Creature was flipped first.

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Post Post #3483 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:49 am

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In post 3480, Mister Rogers wrote:
In post 3473, Not_Mafia wrote:I didn't get a result
Vote: Not_Mafia
Bad vote. N_M isn't getting lynched in this game. (Why would scum claim to have not received a result? He could have said he checked FL like he said he would).

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Post Post #3484 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:49 am

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Welcome to Tinfoil Hour with Mister Rogers!

Todays make believe story revolves around how Almost & Creature are scum and they decide to capitalize on FL's read confidence on Creature (I truly believe he's town as well) by NK-ing him and then stating that scum would never do that "effectively clearing" Creature.

During the night, I had the distinct thought that Almost sounded like scum telling me what is wrong with my town reads. Anyone know what I am talking about there.

I believe Almost is town by at least VCA (weakest of that type of read) and I will need to review Frank's interactions with NT again...
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Post Post #3485 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:51 am

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In post 3483, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3480, Mister Rogers wrote:
In post 3473, Not_Mafia wrote:I didn't get a result
Vote: Not_Mafia
Bad vote. N_M isn't getting lynched in this game. (Why would scum claim to have not received a result? He could have said he checked FL like he said he would).
Because if he is scum, every read is more information for us and he avoids having to be on record? Besides, I never believed his claim anyway and nobody in this town should either.
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Post Post #3486 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:52 am

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In post 3483, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3480, Mister Rogers wrote:
In post 3473, Not_Mafia wrote:I didn't get a result
Vote: Not_Mafia
Bad vote. N_M isn't getting lynched in this game. (Why would scum claim to have not received a result? He could have said he checked FL like he said he would).
Wait, was NM told to check FL?
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Post Post #3487 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:53 am

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Hello? Are you even reading? FL is DEAD. What info would we be getting from knowing our flipped VT had no gun?

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Post Post #3488 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:53 am

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In post 3482, Almost50 wrote:Also, N_M could have returned a guilty on Creature, which would have meant we lynch them BOTH, i.e. that was a guaranteed mislynch for scum in FL if Creature was flipped first.
N_M gets lynched before any more productive player.

PEDIT: Hello? They are effectively the same thing!
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Post Post #3489 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:54 am

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I mean yesterday
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Post Post #3490 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:54 am

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In post 3477, profii wrote:Why wouldn’t your reaction be “wtf lynch all liars”
Mine would be, but I'm not experienced enough to know if that's how things generally go.

Not_Mafia claims to have gotten no result. Other than being role blocked, what else would return no result?
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Post Post #3491 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:54 am

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well what we know is this


FL had no insider knowledge - his mason claim was risk reward based on his Creature read.


We also know Creature _knew_ FL was lying


We also know Creature was happy to survive and follow the lie


Imo the optimal play is to push back on the lie - either people go “wow wtf we better lynch FL” - ok we would have flipped a VT but there is no shame in flipping someone who is putting their own reads over the majority of players (given creature re was about to go)

But - at the same time _because_ creature pushed back on the lie - I’d trust him more


Because creature went with the lie and tried to ride it out - I don’t trust him
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Post Post #3492 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:54 am

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In post 3486, Creature wrote:Wait, was NM told to check FL?
No, He was told not to, after he said he would. He never responded though, so I am waiting on him to say whom he targeted.

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Post Post #3493 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:55 am

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In post 3490, Light Ethos wrote:Not_Mafia claims to have gotten no result. Other than being role blocked, what else would return no result?
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Post Post #3494 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:56 am

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In post 3484, Mister Rogers wrote:Welcome to Tinfoil Hour with Mister Rogers!

Todays make believe story revolves around how Almost & Creature are scum and they decide to capitalize on FL's read confidence on Creature (I truly believe he's town as well) by NK-ing him and then stating that scum would never do that "effectively clearing" Creature.

During the night, I had the distinct thought that Almost sounded like scum telling me what is wrong with my town reads. Anyone know what I am talking about there.

I believe Almost is town by at least VCA (weakest of that type of read) and I will need to review Frank's interactions with NT again...
I agree with your thoughts on a50 and Creature

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Post Post #3495 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:56 am

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In post 3491, profii wrote:Because creature went with the lie and tried to ride it out
What?
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Post Post #3496 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:57 am

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In post 3493, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3490, Light Ethos wrote:Not_Mafia claims to have gotten no result. Other than being role blocked, what else would return no result?
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Post Post #3497 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:57 am

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In post 3493, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3490, Light Ethos wrote:Not_Mafia claims to have gotten no result. Other than being role blocked, what else would return no result?
Ascetic
Hey, I was town ascetic at Mini 2024 where Nauci was also in.
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Post Post #3498 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:58 am

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In post 3495, Creature wrote:
In post 3491, profii wrote:Because creature went with the lie and tried to ride it out
What?
When FL said you and him were masons you could have said no we are not - you were happy to not be lynched and also let the town believe you and a known liar were town
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Post Post #3499 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:59 am

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Scum!FL wasn't gonna fakeclaim mason to save town!me.
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