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Post Post #3600 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:48 pm

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And again, as I stated at the time, its not a "town-scum" list, its a perspective list.
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Post Post #3601 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:51 pm

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I am serious about my theory that Almost is scum R/B:

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Post Post #3602 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:56 pm

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In post 3456, Almost50 wrote:*Sigh* I guess that confirms Creature as TOWN. Scum!Creature wouldn't shoot his fake Mason buddy now.

But GDI! That changes everything regarding our setup spec. I dunno where to go from here tbh.
Just for public consumption, I hetted this post every time I read it. I het the scum "mourning the NK" tone it has and the syripy sweet assumptions it makes that it is town and is so confused.
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Post Post #3603 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:57 pm

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I mean this reads "faked emotion, faked town engagement".
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Post Post #3604 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:12 pm

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In post 3521, Almost50 wrote:
My scum team is profii+LE, but I'm not as confident on the latter.
I am simply not accepting this push.
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Post Post #3605 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:19 pm

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In post 3533, profii wrote: I think a roleblocker stops a gunsmith incase N-M goes rogue
This makes so much sense! I was asking myself, "Why is N_M still alive?" A great answer: "Because scum roleblocked him!".
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Post Post #3606 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:30 pm

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In post 3599, Mister Rogers wrote:If you look I think a few posts down, I mention the three missing people in rapid fashion and where they end up.

I was just about to post a town "block" post with the new PoE and put Creature in there as well. I said Almost would end up A list but I actually think he is B and due to my own small setup spec, I think he is scum R/B. I think he needs lynching for this actually. Just trying to see if anyone else is thinking along the same lines that I am.

Crimson's posts all rubbed me the wrong way except for his initial push on Manatee which sounded really good but ended up being scum fluff (cardboard cutouts like the rest of his ISO).
Huh. I only remembered the primary post so I missed those
Alright then, that’s good. So little has changed from then to now?
Understood about Crimson. I thought you were including the Crimson claim being scum or town thing in that split
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Post Post #3607 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:32 pm

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In post 3600, Mister Rogers wrote:And again, as I stated at the time, its not a "town-scum" list, its a perspective list.
I get that, I never called it that (and both scum and town has flipped in the second group. Which also piques my interest as 4/5 flips are in that group, maybe 5/5 if you put Sasha there).
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Post Post #3608 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:41 pm

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So hang on

Almost50 - role blocker
Light Ethos -
Mister Rogers - neighbour
Not_Mafia - gunsmith
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So it’s likely 2 scum and we killed the vig so 1lynch/kill per cycle

That means If we put a50 and N-M to ultimatum rn, we go down to 6 tomorrow - worst case we get that ultimatum wrong, tomorrow is 2v4 and kill the right one the day after, that puts us at 1v3

I’d like to just sort it out today - there is a risk that we lynch rb first and we are wrong then he could save himself by blocking the kill

But I think he is a scum rb so I’m putting that on the line
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Post Post #3609 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:44 pm

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Best case scenario is we lynch scum rb

That gives us a clear on LE -
can someone who knows the rules better than me confirm a scum doctor can or cannot kill and therefore this a true or false posiive


That puts us at 5v1 with

LE
Me who distinctly pushed this a50 lynch
Rogers who also pushed scum rb once he sussed it
Creature - who is town for the defence by a50, can explain this more if that doesn’t make sense

Leaving scum in gamma or Naomi as n_m will almost certainly die as he can’t give us a result on those 2 or it’s town win
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Post Post #3610 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 11:05 pm

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Scum doc can kill
Malpractice is a thing
Plus plenty of deadly things like scalpels and chemicals
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Post Post #3611 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:59 am

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So in your opinion if a scum doctor existed and was checked by a gun smith the result would be?
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Post Post #3612 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:16 am

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In post 3609, profii wrote:Creature - who is town for the defence by a50, can explain this more if that doesn’t make sense
I am town only because you think A50 is scum spewing me town?
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Post Post #3613 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:18 am

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The Gunsmith is an information role that can target a player at Night to learn if they have a gun in flavor. Members of the
Mafia (that are not Doctors)
, Cops, FBI Agents, Vigilantes, other Gunsmiths, Paranoid Gun Owners, etc. all have guns in traditional flavor. Notably, Serial Killers and Doctors do not have guns.
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Post Post #3614 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:19 am

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Is it that hard to check the wiki?
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Post Post #3615 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:19 am

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Also likely mafia doctor can kill but still be checked as no gun.
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Post Post #3616 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:20 am

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Not liking the ignorance here. It's like scum are trying to derpclear themselves.
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Post Post #3617 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:09 am

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No every time I check the wiki it’s wrong because the new normal rules trump them so I ask if someone actually knew for certain
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Post Post #3618 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:17 am

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In post 3575, Mister Rogers wrote:
Could Almost be brilliant scum
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worked this out in the Daytalk with NM
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According to many; I am.


This isn't even good play if that was the case. The only GOOD move for scum!N_M was to claim he targeted FL like he said he would. I didn't/don't need to tie myself to him in any way, shape or form.

The Cop is dead. The Vig is dead. If it was me+N_M then the town has no living PRs. I was in a good situation and didn't need to confront anyone.

Furthermore, FL was TRing both me and N_M. Why would we shoot him over -say- profii? And why -after the FL flip- am I deflecting suspicion off Creature? And how is all this good scum play at all?

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Post Post #3619 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:23 am

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In post 3577, Mister Rogers wrote:So Almost, what do you think of massclaim? FL supported the idea for today?
I was for it yesterday! (ISO me), and I'm still for it today.

Also, why are you voting Gamma after you pointed out how LE + profii posts lined up as scum wondering how N_M didn't get a result, and noting LE voted profii in RVS?? What am I missing?

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Post Post #3620 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:25 am

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In post 3580, profii wrote:
In post 3576, Mister Rogers wrote:@Profii: Can you please point out your VCA where you declare that Almost is worthy of votes because I couldn't find that in my VCA?
If the 2 scum team went 1 on 1 off the lynches then a50 + gamma makes sense

I was already wary of gamma yesterday so
VOTE: gamma
VOTE: profii

This is it! You're lock scum and I won't stop until one of us is lynched. It's a 1v1 between profii and myself.

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Post Post #3621 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:27 am

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Note that profii also was probing the possibility of fake claiming Cop on D1. He was paving the way for that in case he got wagoned. His p claimed Doc and he was preparing himself to claim Cop.

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Post Post #3622 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:30 am

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In post 3583, Mister Rogers wrote:Meh. I just realized I made a pretty big mistake because Almost could be SCUM R/B.
*Sigh* Why would I out? If N_M is scum with me we didn't have to, and if I'm scum and he's town I still didn't need to defend him!

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Post Post #3623 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:43 am

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@ALL:
Can we all agree that if I am the TOWN RB that N_M is confirmed Town? If this is the case (and we can agree on it) I am willing to be today's lynch, and then you lynch in the following order:

Rogers > Profii > LE.

Rogers is still probably Town, but he's a negative utility all by himself. He doesn't need a "role" to be anti-town. That's why I want him dead before the two scums because you won't be able to lynch them in his existence.

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Post Post #3624 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:51 am

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Like, Rogers.. IF YOU ARE TOWN you've just managed to put your name on the same list as Eragon, Alonzo & Espeonage (although I'd put Espeo a notch higher, actually). This is a list of player I should always ignore, and if I ever roll Vig in a game they're playing then I would shoot them on N1
even if they were confirmed IC.

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