newbie 1891: people with cool hair (game over!!!)

[RadiantCowbells]

This sounds like a thing where your conditional is that if you need to lynch me to win the game I fulfilled your scum criteria

[RadiantCowbells]

I also don't think I'm difficult to play with unless you expect an unrealistically high winrate against my scum game.

[Chara]

or that if i outright say "this is what i'm watching RC for" then you could just do it or not do it, and then i can't use it to read you.

also if i needed you gone as scum i would nightkill you. not set up a vague "out" for myself i can point to later as my justification for lynching RC.

pedit: it was more that we disagree on a lot of things in mafia, RC. i actually find you easier to play with as scum because i don't need to worry about your alignment.

[RadiantCowbells]

i don't think that you want me pushing on you in a situation where you've mostly written off pushing on me back.

i actually find you easier to play with as scum because i don't need to worry about your alignment.

well sure because in a broader sense of mafia I'm not an issue. what is an issue is that people can't read me and so they feel like their choices are to either scumread me no matter what or only vote me with really good reason, which I'll never give as scum. and the problem is that a lot of people think the former option is the correct one.

[RadiantCowbells]

this is all pretty academic given that I think my win equity is higher treating you as scum no matter what based off of what's already passed, but I rarely miss an opportunity to vent about people scumreading me for stupid reasons

[RadiantCowbells]

besides regardless of all my claims that reading me is easy every single person who is not postie who has claimed a 'thing to look for' wrt me that isn't gut has been utterly useless at reading me.
what makes you think that this thing that you're looking for is of any value?

[Chara]

the fact that i already know that (referring to the latter half of 228) should tell you how i'm actually approaching you this game.

pedit: then i hope, assuming you're town, that you figure it out at some point. i might have shot myself in the foot if nonny's scum here, so at this point i'm just hoping he's not.
and i don't really like compromising on my own reads, because that just ends with me annoyed at myself at endgame.

peditx2: would rather not answer that one either. the point is i'm treating you as town.

[Chara]

VOTE: Alonzo
independent of other reads, i like this the best. without too much to work with at the moment, Cobbler has things i'm townreading for about the same reason as nonny.
Hunt is reactive but for some reason i remembered him having more posts than he did, so i want to see more.
i don't have a read on naso.
Alonzo's blatantly sitting on the sidelines in a way i'd call scummy on the surface, but the fact he knows he's doing it makes me wonder whether he just doesn't care, if he wants to make it seem like he doesn't care.

and if nonny's town, i still like Alonzo for scum. it's like he wants to support the wagon without actually being responsible for it. RC, and someone else, have playrd with Alonzo before, correct?

[Alonzo]

Im not sitting on the sidelines I'v been fully transparent.

[Cobblerfone]

Im not sitting on the sidelines I'v been fully transparent.

Those aren't exactly mutually exclusive states of being. I understand what Chara saying.

[Alonzo]

I feel labeled.

[RadiantCowbells]

Has any headway been made on allowing our newest replacement to post?

[schadd_]

we're in the process of figuring out whether this is a newbie-eligible user

[RadiantCowbells]

alright thankee

[nonny]

nonny: who do you think is scum on your wagon, if any?

pedit: if i explained it it wouldn't work. and i find you difficult to play with in general.

I def think scum is on my wagon. Not really sure who at moment. I do want to do a full reread to narrow it down. Had insanely busy weekend and won’t be able to until tomorrow after work though.

Honestly feeling slight blasé though, so far none of my questions or posts get addressed and this wagon persists that I don’t even know where it comes from, started from a joke as far as I can tell. Feel like putting even less effort given this but will persist through. If I’m the lynch so be it but do want to give my reads and what not to help you say 2.

Again will do full reread and post (less than 24hrs from now)

[Qubu]

Keep in mind it’s a newbie game though. Newbies I think are more excited when they have a “real” role.

Qubu: not sure I get what you’re saying, you saying you think scum would be mor excited than VT to play but saying you disagree with me doesn’t mesh. I said I don’t think a VT would be that excited, not VT includes PR or scum.

I get the impression that you are trying to paint me as scummy for not being super active as a poster, but are trying to do so without using a direct attack – more a subtle insinuation that you don’t have to defend but just plant. It bothers me. I can’t explain it more than that. It’s a semantics issue my brain is really tickled by throughout all your posts but nothing I can pin down directly.

I don’t like the imply meta that antsy people must be town gets hunt a town read from you. The guy posted twice. This is similar to my issue with Chara. If you apply your under the radar bit to hunt, oh boy has he been under the radar since then.

No recent vote counts, so I don’t want to blamo a lynch – but I’ll state my vote will go on Nonny assuming it’s not the lynch vote after a count goes up.
I’m fairly certain at least one (very possibly both) of our scum is in the group of object, nonny, and chara. The second scum should be fairly easy to track down from there, assuming the both aren’t in that group.

talk more about how you came to these reads? particularly why you want to vote nonny.

pedit: smart PR play can be fun too. my favourite role is doctor, personally. i like having to juggle avoiding the nightkill with contributing during the day/being obvtown.

Partically covered above. I can do a deeper read on all of you later.
Object… I’ve got object in a either or state with Nonny right now. I can’t really see both of them not flipping scum. That’s the primary reason objects on the list.

You are hard rolefishing in my eyes, and your defense of hunt in #200 is pretty ludicrous to me.

[schadd_]

replacing relentless hunt

[Chara]

You are hard rolefishing in my eyes, and your defense of hunt in #200 is pretty ludicrous to me.

how is saying i like a certain role rolefishing?

Hunt hadn't posted since the beginning of the game, so i've read him on the posts he did have. newbies replace out or stop posting all the time, and it rarely has anything to do with alignment, so i've ignored that.
and yes, i'd still think Hunt is more likely town than scum based just on the posts he had. though now i can read his replacement and get a better idea.

[schadd_]

Spoiler: parker kit hill

Vote count 1.4

Relentless Hunt (2):

notasexualobject, nonny

nonny (2):

RadiantCowbells, Cobblerfone

notasexualobject (1):

Relentless Hunt

Cobblerfone (1):

Lord Cantius

Qubu (1):

Alonzo

Alonzo (1):

Chara

not voting (1):

Qubu

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 1 ends october 5th at 11:40 central US time; in (expired on 2018-10-05 11:40:00)

mod notes

• replacing lord cantius in (expired on 2018-10-01 18:00:00) pending word from him about the account

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[Chara]

well, that isn't entirely true. sometimes it's the case where scum newbies get nervous very easily as scum, but in a game with so many replacements there's really no way to measure that.

[Chara]

for some reason i thought this game had more replaces than it did. only Enzo, Pine, and Hunt have been replaced while the game was ongoing.
i still don't think Hunt's disappearance is AI, and as a rule i don't like to read activity that way anyway.

[Chara]

I don’t like the imply meta that antsy people must be town gets hunt a town read from you. The guy posted twice. This is similar to my issue with Chara. If you apply your under the radar bit to hunt, oh boy has he been under the radar since then.

nonny is voting Hunt. i don't really get how you came to this conclusion, or the one that nonny is saying it's scummy for you to not have posted as much.

[Chara]

Honestly feeling slight blasé though, so far none of my questions or posts get addressed and this wagon persists that I don’t even know where it comes from, started from a joke as far as I can tell. Feel like putting even less effort given this but will persist through. If I’m the lynch so be it but do want to give my reads and what not to help you say 2.

i do hope you continue to give reads if you're town. you can also read your wagon while knowing you're town, which is something i like to do whenever i'm scumread.

[Chara]

Im not sitting on the sidelines I'v been fully transparent.

you've been fully transparent about things to the point i wonder how you expect to scumhunt out of it.
do you genuinely want Qubu wagoned?

[nonny]

Huh prior to the VC I thought my wagon had more participants. Def need to re-evaluate.

Qubu: what are you talking about?? My only voiced reads on you was a town read and on hunt was a scumlean. Are you thinking of someone else? Stating your scumread is gut based on things I’m not actually doing is suspect, please post where your misunderstanding came from, link to posts or include quotes to get rid of vagueness.