Open 736: Diffusion of Power - Game Over


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Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:17 pm

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OK i can run with that. that's strictly worse than checking me because I'm 100% sure that I'd have figured out that skitter was town if she stopped calling me scum every ten seconds but
here's my big question to everyone in the game. I think NM is town, like, most of the time-ish. enough that I'm fine mostly leaving them out of discussion and then just lynching them if the big 4 fails

If I'm right on {Gamma/Implo/Carca/NC} who is the town in that pool?
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Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:21 pm

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Cuz like a big thing in my experience is that Gamma tends towards pushing on his buddies most of the game and excessively distancing as scum and I was looking for Gamma partners in the people he pushed on

like I actually gave Skitter more scum equity based on the fact that he tried to wagon there
and he was also trying to wagon Implosion at around the same time

But like if Nic Cage is scum he played a very textbook prevent-that-wagon-while-not-seeming-to-be-doing so style
and his approach to Carca was similar (weird 70% townread out of nowhere that he never explained)

Idk Skitter being flipped town tends to make me think the highest equity is Gamma/Nic/Carca
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Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:27 pm

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rc are your reads as town actually this garbage
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Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:28 pm

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my reads are gr8
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Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:28 pm

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serious question. How frequently are your reads really, really bad?
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Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:29 pm

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also, skitter is conftown, and she's calling me town!

so you have to call me town too!
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Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:29 pm

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which reads are you talking about?

no i don't skitter literally cannot read you
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Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:30 pm

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In post 1731, Music and Mail wrote:which reads are you talking about?

no i don't skitter literally cannot read you
penguin, me, skitter, and likely gamma
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Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:31 pm

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and i swear to god, if you try to backtrack on the fact that you were definitively scumreading skitter at one point, i will never unvote you.
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Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:33 pm

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MMMM

Penguin I had to knee jerk vote because there was a serious risk that gamma was bussing to get me lynched for shit reasons then my reads would be ignored and town would lose.
If I wasn't under duress due to Skitter I wouldn't have had to make that vote.

Skitter I guess I can't read her when she's doing nothing but derptunneling me and calling me 80% scum? I'm fine with that.

You and Gamma? Eh. I would bet real $ that you aren't both town in any world.
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Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:36 pm

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In post 1725, Music and Mail wrote:{Gamma/Implo/Carca/NC}
this is the game win
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Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:39 pm

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lynching penguin after fucking with the plan is actually so bad, because now we have RC, alive on d2, not confirmed town, without any of the usual information that we would potentially get from RC being alive on d2. Though I doubt scum had any desire to kill him with how bad his reads are.

The skitter check is also irritatingly useless to me.

I'm, at this point, incredibly skeptical of RC-town given the opening today. I've incredibly skeptical of his being willing to lynch Penguin on a knee-jerk reaction after his n2 doc claim; RC should have been easily able to see that it was a significant towntell, and should have been able to see that it was absolutely not the kind of thing you lynch someone after they do because they're probably going to spew themself as town even more when they're back in the game. Pushing the penguin wagon after it is really scummy from him.

Right now I'm sitting at M&M/A50/NC as scum, with N_M and Gamma as the most likely substitutes, vaguely.
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Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:40 pm

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Also

We're not lynching Carcalilly today because she's N2 cop
We're not lynching Nicholas Cage/Implo today because they have the best town equity of the set

so basically it's time for me to lead my lynch and we're starting with Gamma Emerald

Implo's just scum I think.
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Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:40 pm

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I'd like the people townreading Almost50 to explain why, because I get seriously bad vibes from him. I can try to look into them more deeply but so much of what he's said sounds tonally completely wrong.
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Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:41 pm

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ok ok nvm I was right at night
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Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:44 pm

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So.

Gamma
Implo

pick 1 of {Carca/NicCage} preferably Carcalilly

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Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:46 pm

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In post 1695, Creature wrote:
In post 8, Almost50 wrote:Btw, I'm an informed townie. I know this game is single ball and the scum team is of 3 members. There are probably many 1-shot investigatives and many 1-shot protectors. I won't crumb/hint my role. Let's just call say I'm basically a VT starting D2 (and will still get shot anyway).

Signed: Dr.Monkey
Guess this is prob why Almost50 is town
This, for instance, isn't a good enough reason. A50 is plenty good enough to make this opening post as scum. There's the doc claim, sure, but I'm really skeptical of writing him off as town for a claim because last time I did that I mishammered at 3p lylo because of it. He knows how to fakeclaim as scum. And it's not an inconvenient claim as scum, since all it does in practice is potentially leash your n1 kill away from someone.
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Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:53 pm

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In post 1723, CreativeMod1 wrote:Okay firstly, sorry for the stubbornness at the end there, it was actually some WIFOM, I figured that if A50 was in fact mafia and knew I was being stubborn and was gonna check him then he’d just simply kill M&M, likewise if he was town then mafia might’ve killed him instead

Sadly neither happened so it didn’t work

Also on the basis that M&M might’ve died, I didn’t check them

Skitter is....Town
VOTE: Creative
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Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:55 pm

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Creature dude CM1 is not scum.
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Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:55 pm

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In post 1723, CreativeMod1 wrote:Skitter is....Town
Now that's a relief (for me at least).

OK, I probably will check this later if nobody does it before me, but which of this player list has experience with BuJaber? It looks like such a weird kill it almost came from someone who BuJaber is most familiar with that they were afraid he's peg them.

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Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:56 pm

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I am pretty sure I'm the sole person in this Plist with experience with bujaber.

He was killed because he was unlynchable because of the meta I had on him.
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Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:58 pm

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In post 1725, Music and Mail wrote:OK i can run with that. that's strictly worse than checking me because I'm 100% sure that I'd have figured out that skitter was town if she stopped calling me scum every ten seconds but
here's my big question to everyone in the game. I think NM is town, like, most of the time-ish. enough that I'm fine mostly leaving them out of discussion and then just lynching them if the big 4 fails

If I'm right on {Gamma/Implo/Carca/NC} who is the town in that pool?
Replace Gamma with Spoogh and we've got identical lynch pools

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Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:58 pm

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Gamma is scum dude :|
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Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:59 pm

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Idk how people aren't scumreading him but he's been bleeding scum all over the place.
We can try to lynch Implo today but it'll be a way more uphill battle than lynching Gamma and using his associatives to take down Implosion
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Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:01 pm

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In post 1745, Music and Mail wrote:I am pretty sure I'm the sole person in this Plist with experience with bujaber.

He was killed because he was unlynchable because of the meta I had on him.
or literally everyone was calling him strong town????????

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