Mini Normal 2030: Day 8

[Light Ethos]

This is my first Normal game, so those who have more experience can correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think my role invalidates Almost50's town roleblocker claim. With Sashaddin and Krazy, we've seen two places where a town roleblocker could unintentionally set town back. With the Vig and Cop alternating even and odd, if the roleblocker hits him at the wrong time, that's a big blow.

[Gamma Emerald]

Idk why LE claims 2-shot bp no over full or 1-shot

[Light Ethos]

Because I'm not full, and I'm not 1-shot. I don't have a reason to lie to you here.

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean as scum

[Light Ethos]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

I looked into what Akarin said earlier, saying that it drove her crazy that people took Not_Mafia seriously when he said he would check Flavor Leaf.
In going through the ISOs of the people outside my town leans, I found this:

Idea:
If we let NM live he has to agree to check one of (FL, Creature). I don’t see any way this doesn’t confirm the alignments of FL and Creature.

I didn't like the idea of wasting a check on a Mason claim that would be resolved anyway if either of them flipped. This seems like it was an effort to waste one of the checks.

If I'm expected to believe that Not_Mafia is a town gunsmith and not a scum gunsmith

, this post by Gamma Emerald might prove to be an important detail.

And then when you look through the slot's history, we see Parrot entering the thread and immediately asking for claims. Eventually, he disappears. Gamma Emerald arrives, gets into a back and forth with Mister Rogers about why not reading the thread is fine. We don't see any casing with his votes. We don't see much analysis. We see someone who is content to sit back and float through. The only response he gives to support his complacency is that his scum game doesn't hinge on coasting. I don't think coasting through this game helps town out at all.

[Almost50]

Sure. I'm a Town Two-Shot Bulletproof. I was hoping to bait out a night kill at some point with 1051, but Flavor Leaf's fake claims prevented that from happening.

UNVOTE:

I personally do not think scum would think of THAT as a fake claim, unless they were trying to explain why they aren't dead, which doesn't make sense because we all already had maximum NKs on both nights so far.

In short; this is a Town claim.

[Almost50]

I'm totally lost and any wagon I support would be out of me wanting to advance the game rather than being confident in a scum flip.

I sure should either not replace into games or be 100% willing to do a thorough read when I do. ISOing isn't exactly that informative for me it appears.

That said, I will keep my vote idle until I hear from Creature.

@Creature: Please.. pretty please,, give me some directions. You know I trust your reads as Town, so please help me out here. Thank you.

[Mister Rogers]

D2 Scorecard

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Gamma: +1 -- ... terribad invo idea
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Plus no townie replace/activity since D1.

Vote:Gamma

[profii]

unless they were trying to explain why they aren't dead

The good part of this is:

Scum have to kill you or N_M
arguably they are going to want to kill you as you can RB their kill so you are the biggest threat.
however, if they kill you, then we know that LE is probably town because you would need to lynch him as you can't nk him

So that means they will probably kill N_M to cast doubt over your and Le's continued survival.

That means you have to block a NK between

me
Akarin
gamma
Rogers
Creature

so that is our lynch pool for today I think because if we reduce that pool of players, we force scum to flip someone who is going to make things more clear for us tomorrow.

I think it's going to be me gamma or rogers today. I don't really mind which - arguably the least damaging is losing that neighbour claim... then we may inadvertently be in another N_M / A50 position if there is another PR lurking and the RB verifies it within that pool of {Me / Gamma / Akarin} (Assuming A50 wont rb creature)

which means you have a 1 in 3 chance of hitting the scum kill




can someone verify I've not made a mess of that because I made a mess earlier so I could be wrong quite easily??

[Not_Mafia]

Why are we not policy lynching Mister Rogers?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are we not policy lynching Mister Rogers?

Because your reason isn’t policy worthy
Also he’s evidently town imo

[Not_Mafia]

Why are we not policy lynching Mister Rogers?

Because your reason isn’t policy worthy
Also he’s evidently town imo

It is

[Light Ethos]

Is this still about wagonomics?

[Not_Mafia]

Yup

[Not_Mafia]

Maybe is he apologises and promises not to do anything like that again I can vote someone else, but not like this

[Mister Rogers]

Vote Count 1.10

Crimson97 (3) -

Naomi-Tan #1134

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profii #1690

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Mister Rogers

doughboy

#1766

Obviously I am town here, because of wagonomics (Wagonomics Defense [tm]).

[Mister Rogers]

[Akarin]

can someone verify I've not made a mess of that

You've made a mess of it in that you're tying yourself in mental knots convolutedly reestablishing things that don't help. Town RB should always target their best or 2nd best scumread, and if Almost50 is town RB scum are likely to send the scum less suspected by Almost50 to perform the kill. This is true, but it doesn't help anything.

My lynchpool is Rogers, Gamma, Profii at this point, so we agree on that, but I don't think any reasoning coming from trying to predict the NK gets you there.

[Akarin]

VOTE: Gamma

[Akarin]

So who hasn't claimed yet?

If no one else is going to push for this, here's my suggested order:
1. Gamma
2. Profii
3. Mr. Rogers
4. Akarin
5. Creature

Did I miss anyone, anyone care enough to disagree?

[profii]

Only if you want to hold LE to clarify if he has actually made a full claim or not I guess

But no objections

[Almost50]

I am with you all the way on the mass claim.

[Akarin]

Sure. I'm a Town Two-Shot Bulletproof. I was hoping to bait out a night kill at some point with 1051, but Flavor Leaf's fake claims prevented that from happening.

Doesn't read like a claim with more left unclaimed to me, don't see any reason we should wait on it, but I guess yeah if anyone has any secret unclaimed JOAT abilities better claim them now if we're going to debate setup balance.

[Mister Rogers]

So who hasn't claimed yet?

If no one else is going to push for this, here's my suggested order:
1. Gamma
2. Profii
3. Mr. Rogers
4. Akarin
5. Creature

Did I miss anyone, anyone care enough to disagree?

Setting up lynch orders prior to night results is quite scummy; i.e. setting up chain mislynches. Everyone should contribute their lynch pool and we agree on a top scum for today. Tomorrow we reevaluate.

My scum popol is: [Gamma, NM, Almost] and so I am more than fine with Gamma for the reasons I stated.

[Mister Rogers]

There seems to be something wrong with my pool based on claims here, which makes Gamma the best choice but also lets me know that there is at least one scum that is playing a danged good game. Like I said, tomorrow I re-evaluate.