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[ofrhz]

Creature has died!

He was an

Innocent Child

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2018-10-16 07:30:00).

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[ofrhz]

DAY 3 HAS BEGUN

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VOTE COUNT 3.0

Not Voting (8):

Alonzo, the worst, ruru, BuJaber, Enigma, Irrelephant11, skitter30, Korina

With

8

alive, it takes

5

to kill.
Day 3 ends in (expired on 2018-10-16 07:30:00)

Other:
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[Korina]

@Ofrhz, I'm playing under Korina, not vex

fixed

[Irrelephant11]

Sort of annoyed Gamma was the lynch
I know you all think you have so much more context than me and a better feel for each other
But like vca is less subjective than all that

Alonzo/Enigma/BuJaber are my favorite lynch options for today

Hypo-inno on the worst

[BuJaber]

{Tw, enigma, elephant, alonzo}
If I'm not cop that's my scumpool.
This is my scumpool if I'm cop:
{Enigma, elephant}

VOTE: Enigma

[Irrelephant11]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMM

VOTE: Enigma

[Korina]

Hypo-Inno: Buj is good.

[Irrelephant11]

@BuJ is your read on my slot based on my preds or me or both

[Korina]

I don't like TW's hammer post as well.

I'll start to try to case TW/Enigma in a bit.

[BuJaber]

Elephant I understood why you thought scum bussed but why would gamma have to be town for that? Like he was scummy and in day 2 was neck and neck for alonzo which points to 1 scum between them in most games.


Based on preds mostly and I feel your posts aren't particularly AI.

[BuJaber]

So it's hard to tip the scales in your favor if I'm nulling on you and scumreading the double flakeout

[BuJaber]

And frank's play was poor.

[Irrelephant11]

yeah if it's based on preds whatever
I can't really argue and from a cursory glance I don't love their play either (thought arguably it's stronger play than Alonzo's so far)

Look again at the D1 EOD vc. If Gamma was scum, all but three votes were on scum - and 2/3 of those votes were the two people being wagoned -- and the third was the nightkill! It just seemed really really unlikely and I'm bothered by how ruru discredited my point there

[Irrelephant11]

anyway I guess it's a sort of moot point except to maybe analyze how I was ignored/discredited in the building of that wagon

[Alonzo]

I find it interesting that gamma suddenly got the votes once I moved my vote away...

but honestly it could be any combo at this point.

I think Irrelephantts looked super town, Il check my notepad wen i'm back to it and see what my read was on their pred.

Ruru seems kinda random in their timings, Korina has mellowed from their early style, Tw is Tw. I just cant read this guy as either alignment.

Im fairly sure I townleaned buJ early on.

Still uncertain of skitter.

So yeah Im devoid of reads.

Why Enigma?

[Alonzo]

Irrelaphant what do you think about how Frank got on here? Timid town? If so who leant on him the hardest do you think?

[ruru]

inno alonzo

[ruru]

Look again at the D1 EOD vc. If Gamma was scum, all but three votes were on scum - and 2/3 of those votes were the two people being wagoned -- and the third was the nightkill! It just seemed really really unlikely and I'm bothered by how ruru discredited my point there

you'll need to explain this without "look at this it's so unlikely" (tw and jjh were scum in this game) unless you have statistics to suggest it is actually any less likely than the other options or statistics to suggest that I should just sheep your reads without question in general

[ruru]

so, funny story, when I started a super random push on gamma which I phrased in the most honest and non-rhetorical manner possible, I expected him to fight it if he was town

I wasn't sure if he was actually the lynch

then he just kind of blew it off and went to go post in other games

[ruru]

Not to be rude but I think your nsg thing sounds weak because it is actually just too weak to use here
At least if you want anyone to agree with you...

zzz

no more criticizing the gamma lynch please and if you wanted enigma to happen you should've read the game first.

[ruru]

I'm okay with lynching town in a setup with nightkills if they're going to play like that and it's higher ev than lynching someone who's slightly more likely to be scum, but won't fight their lynch as town, and that's just the reality of the nightkill being an overpowered ability

[ruru]

anyway I will be ISPing for now

[Irrelephant11]

Look again at the D1 EOD vc. If Gamma was scum, all but three votes were on scum - and 2/3 of those votes were the two people being wagoned -- and the third was the nightkill! It just seemed really really unlikely and I'm bothered by how ruru discredited my point there

you'll need to explain this without "look at this it's so unlikely" (tw and jjh were scum in this game) unless you have statistics to suggest it is actually any less likely than the other options or statistics to suggest that I should just sheep your reads without question in general

If you think that linked game is somehow similar to what I am talking about you will have to show me, step by step, how it's similar at all.

My point here is that A50 would have to be the ONLY townie not voting scum at EOD1 if Gamma were scum (and then be the nightkill!!). That just. isn't. likely. It's obvious why - and the point bears out, Gamma flipped town. I'm not even asking for towncred here, I'm just expressing annoyance and you're telling me I'm wrong -

No I'm not

, he flipped town!

so, funny story, when I started a super random push on gamma which I phrased in the most honest and non-rhetorical manner possible, I expected him to fight it if he was town

I wasn't sure if he was actually the lynch

then he just kind of blew it off and went to go post in other games

which part of this story is funny

this is a seriously crappy and scummy response to getting the lynch you wanted and having it flip green
"Well, it was his fault, not mine" is not a towny response. town says something like "huh wonder what other reads I've got wrong" or "I guess that flip means ___ is maybe scum"
Here you're answering the "why did ruru push a townie's lynch" pre-emptively, no one had asked it

it might just be I'm annoyed with you here but I'm seriously scumreading your entrance to this day
I've also thought since ISOing her that ruru could maybe actually be traitor

Not to be rude but I think your nsg thing sounds weak because it is actually just too weak to use here
At least if you want anyone to agree with you...

zzz

no more criticizing the gamma lynch please and if you wanted enigma to happen you should've read the game first.

Wow this is freaking rude and ignores how I've ISO'd most players and read most of the game
Like I did a crap ton of work for replacing in ~pg 70, somewhat close to deadline, and you're basically saying "Your read wasn't better than mine because you did the work or had good arguments," [sidenote: I

super

did both of these things] "it was just random, and also it's your fault he was lynched because you weren't around during sitewide v/la"
Is your goal here to antagonize me????
I'm so mad rn

I'm okay with lynching town in a setup with nightkills if they're going to play like that

and it's higher ev than lynching someone who's slightly more likely to be scum, but won't fight their lynch as town, and that's just the reality of the nightkill being an overpowered ability

Play like what? How does town have to play to deserve your being okay with lynching them? Because Gamma wasn't even that scummy!

I am experiencing angerrrrrrrrrrr and I don't like it

[Irrelephant11]

you're basically saying "Your read wasn't better than mine because you did the work or had good arguments," [sidenote: I super did both of these things] "it was just random, and also it's your fault he was lynched because you weren't around during sitewide v/la"

and this from you also isn't how town treats a scumread either
I forget what your read on my slot is but if you think I'm town you're putting too much into making me feel bad/discrediting me

[Irrelephant11]

Irrelaphant what do you think about how Frank got on here? Timid town? If so who leant on him the hardest do you think?

Who's frank?
oh me

what's your question here?