Mini Normal 2030: Day 8

[profii]

Creature has not claimed btw...

assume this means you are not saying any more than you're a neighbour.

that means akarin is up next and then creature...

[Gamma Emerald]

I just want to make sure that you know what you are doing.

kinda wanna see which one of A50 and N_M hammers.

not a problem to me if we don't out any more PRs before the NK... that can only be good in my mind

Next day would be mylo though
VOTE: profii
For pushing the hammer despite there not having been full claimage, which would prevent scum guilty plays

[profii]

You've not really addressed the reasons I've lynched you. (e.g. you stayed the cluck away from Crimson on Day1 - pushing his biggest CW until Crimson was out the water, then stayed away from it when he came back into focus towards the end of day/lynch achieved)


Which makes me think I'm in the right place.


I am not concerned about the last few claims. Akarin ('s slot) pushed Crimson hard day 1 - almost certainly day 1
Creature to be fair I wouldn't mind a claim but given there is so many roles I don't think he'd be able to fabricate anything convincing if he was scum and would probably have to VT it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well what is there to say
I figured it was probable one of the gs/doc were a scum pr. Beyond that I didn’t really have much of a leaning so I just let the Crimson wagon happen, even though I was kinda with Mister Rogers in it not being lockscumming

[Mister Rogers]

The proper claim order was AK first, then Creature.

[Akarin]

I'm VT

[Akarin]

Also, your vote on me was outside your pool. Can you explain why you voted outside your pool?

Felt like it. I don't see why this is a thing that even needs justifying.

It was a good starting point for getting into the game, I was never claiming both scum had to be in that pool, I think it's very likely 1 scum is. Although the argument that Crimson may have threatened replace-out due to double bussing and had to be talked down does make a certain amount of sense, so my feeling there is weaker now than it was but I still doubt a double bus that early.

[Akarin]

Something has moved Akarin on those 2 slots there- I’d be eager to hear what

Why don't you guess what could have changed my desire to lynch Almost50 and Not_Mafia between those two posts. Like seriously, how is this a mystery to you?

[Akarin]

So it looks to me like profii just kind of latched onto what LE was saying without thinking about it, and a little bit stronger.

[Light Ethos]

Something has moved Akarin on those 2 slots there- I’d be eager to hear what

Why don't you guess what could have changed my desire to lynch Almost50 and Not_Mafia between those two posts. Like seriously, how is this a mystery to you?

I want your words. There is no reason for you to be evasive here, especially after deciding to vote someone for your perception of them being squirrelly.

[Light Ethos]

So it looks to me like profii just kind of latched onto what LE was saying without thinking about it, and a little bit stronger.

I agree with this. I still want you to comment on my question.

[Akarin]

I'm not being evasive, I think you guys are refusing to read. I doubt you 2 are both scum so one of you should stop being lazy.

Like this is so jaw-droppingly obvious I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out why you'd even ask, although I'm honestly much more concerned with profii's jumping on.

[Akarin]

Ahem

I didn't get a result

there is no "Mafia" Roleblocker. I am the TOWN Roleblocker, and >I< blocked N_M last night to verify once and for all that he was indeed a GS. If he had given a result (either way) on ANYONE he would have been caught in a lie and I would have drove his lynch myself.

[profii]

Scum Not_Mafia faking a guilty gets 1 mislynch, 1 scum lynch, then it's 3 town vs. 1 scum, we no lynch and it's 2v1 LYLO.
Scum Not_Mafia claiming no result as a gambit makes sense if he thinks his buddy wouldn't win LYLO.

If Not_Mafia is town, then we have Even-Cop, Odd-Vig, and Gunsmith and scum Roleblocker and daytalk.
That's a lot of cop power even with a roleblocker.

I’ll give you the benefit of the replace in doubt but...

A50 role blocked n_m

N_m said he was role blocked

Either they are both scum and it’s a gambit

Or he was legit roleblocked

So if you don’t want to lynch then then you are saying they are not buddies - but then you say we have a lot of power

So excuse me for not being totally clear on where you are going


UNVOTE: - I actually really didn’t like that reaction so

[Akarin]

you could have unvoted just as easily as I can... you posted 90 mins before I did so if it's a concern of yours, then why are you on there?

I want to lynch gamma so my vote stays, if A50 had L-1'd I would have had no issue hammering. I actually want N_M to come in

I just want to make sure that you know what you are doing.

kinda wanna see which one of A50 and N_M hammers.

not a problem to me if we don't out any more PRs before the NK... that can only be good in my mind

UNVOTE: - I actually really didn’t like that reaction so

[profii]

I was just reacting

VOTE: gamma

My point still stands but when I thought about it you pushed crimson prettty hard so surely you’re not the busser

[Creature]

I'm VT

[Light Ethos]

Like this is so jaw-droppingly obvious I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out why you'd even ask

I ask because I want your words instead of having to put them in your mouth. Why couldn't you just answer the question in the first place?
I'll go further and say that your condescending 3812 doesn't even fully answer the question.

Before that, you had Not_Mafia in your pool. After Not_Mafia claims roleblocked, he's suddenly not in your pool anymore. There are still valid reasons why he could still be in your pool. Why are you convinced that Not_Mafia isn't a Mafia Gunsmith, and why are you convinced that Almost50 is a town roleblocker?

The information you posted as your reasoning for dropping them from your pool isn't sufficient to answer those questions, but you needed to have answered those questions for yourself before you could drop them from the pool.

[profii]

So it looks to me like profii just kind of latched onto what LE was saying without thinking about it, and a little bit stronger.

I’m just going to latch on again because that’s a valid q from my POV

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum Not_Mafia faking a guilty gets 1 mislynch, 1 scum lynch, then it's 3 town vs. 1 scum, we no lynch and it's 2v1 LYLO.
Scum Not_Mafia claiming no result as a gambit makes sense if he thinks his buddy wouldn't win LYLO.

If Not_Mafia is town, then we have Even-Cop, Odd-Vig, and Gunsmith and scum Roleblocker and daytalk.
That's a lot of cop power even with a roleblocker.

I’ll give you the benefit of the replace in doubt but...

A50 role blocked n_m

N_m said he was role blocked

Either they are both scum and it’s a gambit

Or he was legit roleblocked

So if you don’t want to lynch then then you are saying they are not buddies - but then you say we have a lot of power

So excuse me for not being totally clear on where you are going


UNVOTE: - I actually really didn’t like that reaction so

This feels kinda postury with how he just keeps voting me
Profii-Akarin team? Why was NT town again?

[Almost50]

I'm now getting cold feet about Gamma's lynch. He's being way too calm about it, which doesn't concur with his meta (as either alignment).

[Almost50]

@Gamma: Why are you not worried about this? How come you are almost welcoming the lynch?

[profii]

Scum Not_Mafia faking a guilty gets 1 mislynch, 1 scum lynch, then it's 3 town vs. 1 scum, we no lynch and it's 2v1 LYLO.
Scum Not_Mafia claiming no result as a gambit makes sense if he thinks his buddy wouldn't win LYLO.

If Not_Mafia is town, then we have Even-Cop, Odd-Vig, and Gunsmith and scum Roleblocker and daytalk.
That's a lot of cop power even with a roleblocker.

I’ll give you the benefit of the replace in doubt but...

A50 role blocked n_m

N_m said he was role blocked

Either they are both scum and it’s a gambit

Or he was legit roleblocked

So if you don’t want to lynch then then you are saying they are not buddies - but then you say we have a lot of power

So excuse me for not being totally clear on where you are going


UNVOTE: - I actually really didn’t like that reaction so

This feels kinda postury with how he just keeps voting me
Profii-Akarin team? Why was NT town again?

I did have the thought that Naomi may have bussed Crimson hard day 1 / combined with inactivity which might have caused Crimson to rage replace out because he actually wanted to play

But that seems overly paranoia-y and the simple answer is she just caught Crimson - usually when my paranoia kicks in that just means people are town

[profii]

@Gamma: Why are you not worried about this? How come you are almost welcoming the lynch?

This is also a good question

[profii]

I'm now getting cold feet about Gamma's lynch. He's being way too calm about it, which doesn't concur with his meta (as either alignment).

However I am not getting cold feet - it was tough to get the Crimson lynch to actually go through so I think this is the right way to go in that sense