Open 737: Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[ofrhz]

VOTE COUNT 3.2

Alonzo (1):

Irrelephant11

the worst (1):

ruru

ruru (0):

BuJaber (0):

Enigma (2):

BuJaber, the worst

Irrelephant11 (0):

skitter30 (0):

Korina (0):

Not Voting (4):

Alonzo, Enigma, skitter30, Korina

With

8

alive, it takes

5

to kill.
Day 3 ends in (expired on 2018-10-16 07:30:00)

Other:

- skitter30 V/LA Fridays and Saturdays

[ruru]

VOTE: ofrhz

I heard her move during the night.

[Alonzo]

have you solved this ruru?

[the worst]

VOTE: ofrhz

I heard her move during the night.

I think that was a fart
would you mind voting seriously?

[skitter30]

skitter yours is the only iso I 'v not read, will i find you swimming upstream or going with the flow?

I thinj ive been fairly clear about what my opinions are, but ive also been working with ruru and a50 and creature when they were alive and korina too a bit

==

Actually im going to do the enigma iso a bit later when im at a pc

[skitter30]

i was expecting pithy but profound and ponderous works too

#greatposting

:)

[ruru]

VOTE: the worst

[the worst]

VOTE: the worst

Better.

[skitter30]

does anyone have a strong read on irrel's slot either way?

[skitter30]

ok this'll be a ramble-y type thing

-> still kinda feel like the pagetops thing in rvs exhibited a townie type tone

-> also 77 i feel is a kinda unstilted response to someone (presumably fake-claiming) traitor

-> just feels kinda townie and non-agenda-y tonally and just very guileless

-> noting that he's kinda defensive of sky

->

VOTE: NM
Trollylololol

HURT: duck

still don't think this is a bussing vote tbh

-> still think 2062 feels townie

idk and nothing realy feels scummy from him imo

[ruru]

Lynch the worst

[the worst]

don't lynch the worst.

[ruru]

Ugh

so, gamma being mislynched is probably a loose indicator of his reads being accurate (not necessarily enigma though, maybe just the worst) and me not being shot is probably a loose indicator that I'm wrong about at least one of {tw, bujaber} or that I have an inno on scum because creature was being useless and his reads on both lynches were wrong.

I think out of all the players gamma was sheeping my case on tw most and I'm hesitant to drop enigma down to lynchable just based on gamma's reads when it's quite possible he was lynched for that reason too.

it's definitely possible that skitter and I have a positive feedback confbias loop on enigma; we've done this before, but I still think it's more likely he's just town. nothing about his posting seems scum-indicative (compared to his town meta) to me and I would expect someone who hasn't played scum in a long time to be more nervous and exhibit more scumtells in a game with people he just played with.

I kind of wanted to roleplay nsg and just lurk and see what happens rather than pushing stuff today to try to figure out if I'm just wrong about everything but I'm not nsg and I feel like I need to interact with the game and I'll feel like a gamethrower if I do that and it doesn't lead to a win so whatever I will be actually playing the game now

[the worst]

???

[skitter30]

being wrong and not winning != gamethrowing imo

gamethrowing is doing something dumb like lolvoting in lylo

gamethrowing isn't 'i was wrong on this read and helped lynched him'. it might be a reason for a loss but it's not a gamethrow

[ruru]

so, I still think bujaber is scum

bujaber is regularly a highposter as town and even excluding the replacement and v/la timings his posts per day are just lower than expected and it feels like he's not really doing much

despite this, other people who also weren't doing much (gamma/enigma) had much more shade thrown on them which makes me think it's a scum agenda thing.

oh, and I guess gamma also attempted to cfd bujaber d1 so there's that

Spoiler:

Can't blame skitter for just sheeping.

Took a long time for y'all to see it.
VOTE: gamma
L-1

this is a scummy post

the bolded doesn't sound like town talking to a scumread

I feel like tw should be easier to townread by now. I'm getting paranoid because imo his strength lies in knowing how to not appear scummy moreso than trying to look townie. That's my impression from giyga's curse. He won because people didn't really have a reason to suspect him.

this post is dubious

I guess something along these lines:

{Creature, me}
{Vex}
{A50, skitter}
{Ruru, TW}
-----null line----
{Gamma, cjv}
{Enigma}
{HWS, Frank}

Lol who puts themselves in their own readlist

Did I hit a nerve?

this feels like an over-acted response, he had also called enigma a policy lynch iirc and enigma's post isn't scummy at all

it reminds me of some of the fake scumhunting I did as scum where I just threw shade on things in a way that isn't useful to sorting people

[the worst]

VOTE: BuJaber
forgot he was here
dats not a gud sign

[ruru]

being wrong and not winning != gamethrowing imo

gamethrowing is doing something dumb like lolvoting in lylo

gamethrowing isn't 'i was wrong on this read and helped lynched him'. it might be a reason for a loss but it's not a gamethrow

I meant if I roleplayed lurk-nsg and then also didn't solve the game by doing so then the combination would be gamethrowing because non-interaction also leads to other people producing less content

[ruru]

there are a couple townish things bujaber did:

Sounds like you need a flip.

I guess my point boils down to you have a big scum pool that seems awfully coincidental. It seems strange that almost all of them are on the same wagon and one of them is the player being wagoned.

And then you're townpool in comparison is small but all of them are off the wagon with the exception of the IC.

So it's like you created a line that is gamma. But that would make sense if you townread gamma but you don't.

I know you didn't claim to arrive at that pool

because

we're voting for gamma, so that's what makes it strange. If it were for that reason it'd be natural to get the playerlist divide that you ended up with. But you seemed to end up with it completely independently and I guess I found it a weird coincidence and I don't trust coincidences in a game of reads, human intrraction, and deception.

If I trust my townread on you then the logical conclusion is that you are being fooled by one or more of your townreads. Or I am wrong about you and this is a result of you unable to keep up with your lies and fake reads to keep them aligned/consistent. I'd rather play with the assumption that I'm right since it's easier and better for my ego.

this post is one of them

him reading meta is also somewhat townish but I think he's decently tryhard scum and like for example I definitely read meta as scum (including bringing new meta into the game after I saw that other townies were doing it) so basically I have no good reason to tr him either

[ruru]

so basically I expect more town-indicative things from him because his meta isn't like AP meta where he just looks like scum every game.

[ruru]

VOTE: BuJaber
forgot he was here
dats not a gud sign

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[ruru]

VOTE: bujaber

[the worst]

agdkgshdgsh

[skitter30]

i guess one of the things i'm worried about is that there's a bunch of people in my 'i can't read super well rn' zone and gamma/enigma keep on drawing votes, and alonzo a little bit too, but irrel and bujaber haven't really much at all

also i'm a little bit worried about irrel because both of his preds are bad and he's supposed to have a good scumgame so like idk if i'll ever really catch him doing anything scummy

bujaber is kinda like lacking the passion/stubbornness from pypx/y. like he's just kinda around but not really *pushing* anything; in pypx/y he got into a massive fight with sando and kept trying to draw people's attention back there; he doesn't really have any strong scumreads here

at the same time i don't know if i can blame him because i don't have super strong scumreads here either

[skitter30]

being wrong and not winning != gamethrowing imo

gamethrowing is doing something dumb like lolvoting in lylo

gamethrowing isn't 'i was wrong on this read and helped lynched him'. it might be a reason for a loss but it's not a gamethrow

I meant if I roleplayed lurk-nsg and then also didn't solve the game by doing so then the combination would be gamethrowing because non-interaction also leads to other people producing less content

eh fair