I still 100% believe you but it's funny how you randed a role that benefits from d1 full claiming and then coasting to win with whatever sideIn post 1173, Elsa Jay wrote:A note again, I cant be roleblocked. Just making sure we know that part.
Pedit: clearly ive been hinting my modifier for awhile, but no, I'm not compulsive.
If it helps, I'm Ascetic with a single BP.
note he doesn't have to be truthful about all of it
...In post 1173, Elsa Jay wrote:A note again, I cant be roleblocked. Just making sure we know that part.
Pedit: clearly ive been hinting my modifier for awhile, but no, I'm not compulsive.
If it helps, I'm Ascetic with a single BP.
I mean ... using up scum resources isn't nothing. And if they don't have a way around it, then if we leave Elsa to be sorted along the way, then we have a situation where we can protect strong town players and either force scum to shoot elsewhere or waste what are usually limited resources.In post 1170, Nancy Drew Shogunate wrote:knowing where the doctor will go so it never stops a kill, though. and if scum has a single roleblock, a single redirect, a single strongman, they can get around it anytime they want. elsa being useless is good for elsa, and neutral to the rest of us. I'm fine with him playing that way, but let's not pretend he'll be as useful for town as if he acted like a real doc at night.In post 1167, northsidegal wrote:having a doctor on someone the entire game hardly seems like it doesn't trouble scum to me
that's all true but not d1. we'll waste elsa tonight if he claims his target. elsa can be open about their targets whenever your second paragraph actually holds true. that's not tonight, is it drixx?In post 1183, Reasonably Rational wrote:I mean ... using up scum resources isn't nothing. And if they don't have a way around it, then if we leave Elsa to be sorted along the way, then we have a situation where we can protect strong town players and either force scum to shoot elsewhere or waste what are usually limited resources.In post 1170, Nancy Drew Shogunate wrote:knowing where the doctor will go so it never stops a kill, though. and if scum has a single roleblock, a single redirect, a single strongman, they can get around it anytime they want. elsa being useless is good for elsa, and neutral to the rest of us. I'm fine with him playing that way, but let's not pretend he'll be as useful for town as if he acted like a real doc at night.In post 1167, northsidegal wrote:having a doctor on someone the entire game hardly seems like it doesn't trouble scum to me
In a game where there is a cap on how many can die due to killing power, it's actually possible that forcing scum to shoot "not player x" could result in at least one less kill. And in a game where we have only so many mislynches and KPN we can absorb ... that's maybe considerably better than not nothing.
~D
P-Edit: Why the role spew? How does that help at all?
As RR said it's an easy way for a scumdoctor to relinquish responsibility for choosing a target i.e. we can't read your alignment based on your protects if you're leashed.In post 1186, Elsa Jay wrote:then why was it scummy that I asked to do that earlier? To be on that "leash"?
I agree with you, because I don't think what drixx said will ever make a declared doc better than a doc scum doesn't know where is going to. I disagree with drixx that what he said can ever be applied to n1.In post 1187, northsidegal wrote:having a predeclared target is actually better the earlier in the game it is, as that's when the chance of randomly selecting the same person that scum selects is at its lowest, as compared to later in the game.
@Elsa: Does that mean the post above is a scum claim? Because I literally said I don't want you to forget about this fact, but that's all I have to say on the matter now...and then NSG decided it was worthwhile to keep the topic going?In post 1152, northsidegal wrote:why don't you just say whatever it is exactly that you're trying to say
and if what you're trying to say is "elsa is likely a scum doctor", why don't you think she needs to die?
~~~ i still think flicker is scum ~~~In post 1190, Elsa Jay wrote:I got a feeling that - considering this is the third time - people are gonna start using me being Neutral and have a full blown discussion about me may also be using it as less time spent actually scum hunting.
... You literally brought it up right before her. The literal post before the one you quoted.In post 1151, Reasonably Rational wrote:This is the only time I'm going to say this, because I don't think we need to kill Elsa now, but...
I want everyone who knows the flavor, and realizes that this game seems designed to have many killing roles on both/all sides(depending on single/multiball), to consider this.
Is it more likely that Simon is a neutral doctor, or that the Alliance, who has multiple doctors and is likely scum, has a scum doctor.
Just...
Think about that.
End setup/spec.
-Cerb
...In post 1198, Elsa Jay wrote:What you did was what any drunk dude who mentions something like politics or religion in a bar: a goddamn bar fight.
Cerb, your trying to make me look at this from a TOWNIE perspective. I cant really do that.
The conversation in question included me, you (RR), North, Tora Nancy, and Cheeky.
Tora/Nancy: basically been on my side since page 1.
Cheeky: Ive slowly come to like over the last 25-ish pages.
North: the Bae/friend of mine who (if they live) I'm gonna be buttering up and complementing all day 2 for friendship and protection?
Yeah, going against my current and potential allies is a very stupid idea as a Neutral.
gah.