In post 1095, jjh927 wrote:NSG is being surprisingly incompetent from my pov, the worst is scum, mathdino should know better, IDK shit about ruru
what about my play has been incompetent, even from your own point of view?
are you saying that you've played to your town meta this game such that a knowledge of it would mean that i would be townreading you?
In post 1098, northsidegal wrote:no, i really haven't been tunneling them, at least not in the sense of screaming for people to follow me.
you didn't answer my question about whether or not my vote is reasonable from my perspective. you saying that my vote is wrong just from your perspective is meaningless - if you're going to say that i'm being incompetent, then my vote has to be unreasonable, it can't just be wrong.
like, let's posit that there was some "theoretical scumgame" and a person played exactly to it, even if they were town. would you call someone who voted that person incompetent just for being wrong even if their reasons were right?
In post 1099, northsidegal wrote:even from your own perspective of (theoretically) knowing that you're town, unless you think there are reasons that from
my
perspective i should be townreading you and i'm just not seeing those reasons, you can't say that i'm being incompetent for just being wrong. i'm not psychic.
I'm basically sheeping players who are better than me on it not being a towny thing to say
I've been searching and can't find a quote along the lines of "jjh sealed his own fate when he called nsg incompetent for scumreading him" from that game but I'm almost positive somebody said it too
someone please swing by here and say they actually think ruru is approaching this from a town point of view and trying to sort me and not stubbornly steering a lynch. please please please please please
I think shes town pretty strongly tho. I suppose its possible that im pocketed but like i don't think so? And if she has she's either going to like have to nk me or explain why we're both alive in lylo so either way im not super worried about it atm
I think she might be tunnled on you, yeah
Do u think me/enigma could be svs?
I have been p-edited; im much slower at typing on a phone than on a computer im realizing
In post 2476, the worst wrote:someone please swing by here and say they actually think ruru is approaching this from a town point of view and trying to sort me and not stubbornly steering a lynch. please please please please please
no, I'm not really trying to sort you because I think you're just scum
In post 1095, jjh927 wrote:NSG is being surprisingly incompetent from my pov, the worst is scum, mathdino should know better, IDK shit about ruru
what about my play has been incompetent, even from your own point of view?
are you saying that you've played to your town meta this game such that a knowledge of it would mean that i would be townreading you?
In post 1098, northsidegal wrote:no, i really haven't been tunneling them, at least not in the sense of screaming for people to follow me.
you didn't answer my question about whether or not my vote is reasonable from my perspective. you saying that my vote is wrong just from your perspective is meaningless - if you're going to say that i'm being incompetent, then my vote has to be unreasonable, it can't just be wrong.
like, let's posit that there was some "theoretical scumgame" and a person played exactly to it, even if they were town. would you call someone who voted that person incompetent just for being wrong even if their reasons were right?
In post 1099, northsidegal wrote:even from your own perspective of (theoretically) knowing that you're town, unless you think there are reasons that from
my
perspective i should be townreading you and i'm just not seeing those reasons, you can't say that i'm being incompetent for just being wrong. i'm not psychic.
I'm basically sheeping players who are better than me on it not being a towny thing to say
I've been searching and can't find a quote along the lines of "jjh sealed his own fate when he called nsg incompetent for scumreading him" from that game but I'm almost positive somebody said it too
I think im going to bounce now and look at this tom; its getting kinda late for me
like, you keep doing things that I think are either scummy in general or by your meta or that like specifically remind me of games where you were scum and not of games where you were town
I left you alone on d1 when you specifically said the way I was interacting with you was making it hard for you to play the game and you didn't get any townier after that
In post 2483, ruru wrote:like, you keep doing things that I think are either scummy in general or by your meta or that like specifically remind me of games where you were scum and not of games where you were town
I left you alone on d1 when you specifically said the way I was interacting with you was making it hard for you to play the game and you didn't get any townier after that
I kind of just want to lynch you
> thought I was mislynchable
> focused elsewhere
> resuming pushing me
if you're town you should literally be embarrassed by how badly you're misrepresenting players who you allege are better than you, and who you pretend to learn from. you have no semblance of an ability to read me and have shown no interest in attempting original thought while doing so, and yet the meta you sheep is cold and badly applied.
I don't think you're bad at mafia. I think you're a wolf. if you're not please go and think on it and we can try this again later.
ironically I haven't felt this disgusted by being misrepresented by a player since Noir. and he admitted post-game that he was hamming it the fuck up to steer night kills off me.
In post 1099, northsidegal wrote:even from your own perspective of (theoretically) knowing that you're town, unless you think there are reasons that from
my
perspective i should be townreading you and i'm just not seeing those reasons, you can't say that i'm being incompetent for just being wrong. i'm not psychic.
In post 2481, the worst wrote:which is a read you've been arrogantly tunnelling like a Good Townie all game instead of stopping and trying to engage with me and sort me
Nice.
pushing a scumread isn't exactly "arrogant" behavior so this post is pretty weird especially considering I've interacted with you a lot in this game.
also I think it's agenda-y that you only started pushing me after I disapproved of your enigma case:
your new scumpool is {ruru, bujaber, enigma}
enigma is probably an easy lynch
bujaber is also probably an easy lynch, but you ignored him and pushed me instead even though I'm not an easy lynch and you've been townreading me all game which I think is kind of partnery
Alright, tring TW a bit more seeing their thought process.
I'm also gonna have to come back to this game when I don't feel like crap nor have several tests to study for, (so probably later today after a nap).
I'm not like a huuuuge fan of how in every other game we've played you've worked hard at sorting me and now that I'm a replacement you're just like "well I can't trust me to sort him so I'll just ignore him and read his previous slots"
Not just because it's annoying that it feels like your playing with my slot instead of me (personal reason)
But also because the fact I reportedly have a strong scumgame hasn't stopped you from actively sorting me in the past
If skitter wins this game as scum this was my hint....
lol
I mostly agree with this sentiment as a general rule but if you're scum it's always with one of Alonzo/BuJ so this post doesn't do much to clear that part up for me
In post 2427, the worst wrote:also town on Alonzo for fairly intangible reasons but I feel like I have a tendency to get lazy and start scumreading his posting style when I'm deflated as town
if those assumptions are right there's 2 wolves in {ruru, buj, enigma} which I don't
think
is right but all the same I'll go try and a solve in these curly brackets and see how the cards fall.
This and the townreads you expressed in the previous post are sorta opaque and it makes me think you're aiming for pocketing
At the same time {ruru, buj, enigma} was a lynchpool for me at one point earlier this game day
I'm at a point where it feels strongly like it's either tw/buj or ruru/enigma but I also feel like the Alonzo slot is getting by too easily and if skitter's scum we would all probably miss that fact
so I guess add Alonzo/skitter to the list
meaning I've got a great townblock fmpov of me/korina
In post 2430, the worst wrote:Tbh I'm exhausted trying to soft TPR too hard and eat a nightkill so you lazy fuckers don't have to sort me so I'll go try and solve this the good old fashioned way :c
oh good
glad to see you, if scum, have changed your meta
and that either way you'll sort someone
In post 2358, BuJaber wrote:I'm not arguing against the read I want to know your reasons if you please.
Because from my pov he's been given a case for you being scum but not really pushing it and like I expect you to be suspicious of him for that.
Why should I be suspicious of that?
also sorry to be evasive but ctrl+f of ruru in my iso will probably give a fair bit.
I thought you sorted me already
current scumread feels very agenda-y
I actually think this scumread from him would make a lot of sense if it had come a little earlier
As it is BuJ basically suggested in thread that he should scumread you and then ~48 hours it came to life so I feel less good about it
the worst wrote:a case on enigma
I think the case is pretty strong and is what I saw in enigma - especially a lot of scummy soft defenses for the red slot that I don't get why anyone isn't scumreading
I would expect a meta-case to look something like "enigma does X more frequently as scum than as town" or "X is a general scumtell and enigma doesn't do it as town" and I don't feel like that was either of those
like if you want to talk about ISPing skygazer is a lot worse and I haven't felt much genuine scumhunting from your slot this game either
like, you realize bujaber is the other one pushing the argument that enigma is fluffing too much to be town and I'm scumreading both of you so enigma really strongly feels like designated mislynch to me
I don't really remember ever reading a case on BuJ from you that's strong other than "he posts more and better as town"
I'll ISO you after I finish this post to see if I'm forgetting something but the way you say you feel about the worst pushing the designated enigma mislynch is kinda how I feel about you pushing a designated buj mislynch
except also you just want the worst flipped which...
I dunno it feels obvious that it's one of the two pairs I said earlier but it also feels for some reason like it shouldn't be so obvious
Like I townread the worst and ruru's play for similar reasons (unlikely to be partners with the flipped slot, lots of posting and effort) and scumread them for similar reasons (annoyingly keeping some things to themselves, acknowledging general lack of WIM for most game days)
And I feel like I'm being asked to choose between the two of you and maybe there's a right choice but maybe it's neither...
In post 2476, the worst wrote:someone please swing by here and say they actually think ruru is approaching this from a town point of view and trying to sort me and not stubbornly steering a lynch. please please please please please
no, I'm not really trying to sort you because I think you're just scum
this is a little crappy
because his case on enigma is actually pretty good
and he's right that you're not engaging with his content
and like even if the worst is scum you said yourself he plays survivalistically so maybe he's handing you his partner on a silver platter
anyway I do agree with a lot of the content of his case even as I lose my townread on the worst so do you at least understanding why I'm partner reading you and enigma for the same reasons you're partner reading tw/buj
@TW: where were you in day 1 when I brought this case forward and you replaced in at pretty much the same time?
Where were you when I took shit for it multiple times?
Why is this desire to reread and sort day 1 coming only now? The boredom in this game did not start just recently. You had time before.
Right now when people are finally softening up to the idea of an enigma wagon after their hypo-innos have reduced the scum pool you come up with this case that practically mirrors mine?
Why are you opposed to both massclaiming and no lynching give reasons please.
Why are you trying to backtrack on your TR of ruru? She's been pretty consistent in her approach on you. What triggered you to change your approach to her now?
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Nice.
