Overkill 1: Serenity/Firefly (GAME OVER)

[Flicker]

I'm a Town Priest (probably Shepard Book). At least if I die first, it sort of fits narratively, plus my role's "power" is slightly burdensome for town. I was trying to breadcrumb with my emoji choice, but I guess nerd to books to Book isn't that straight-forward.

If you'd like, I can prove my role by trying (and failing) to hammer myself? Normally I wouldn't even gesture toward a self-voting because it's so anti-town, but it genuinely won't do a thing in this case. I checked with the mod, there's no repercussions for trying, either.

[Flicker]

As far as my vote on Chara, it was getting a little boring trying to pressure someone who seems immune to it, and that series of posts really did ping me as off. Was it a reach to scumread Chara for it? Maybe.

I definitely still think either Nico or TPFKAP would be a decent lynch today. I also wasn't defending TPFKAP, FTR, I was just objecting to Thor trying to steer me away from voting Nico using what I saw as an unfair characterization of TPFKAP's actions, that's all.

UNVOTE: until I check the votes to see which of Nico/TPFKAP is ahead.

[Flicker]

Ah, they're tied, but TPFKAP is voting Nico.

VOTE: TPFKAP, then.

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

good to know you expect me to assertively push people all the time when I'm being diplomatic about my scumreads because

"RC isn't a big enough asshole to do x as scum"

. I would let you mislynch flicker if I was scum, cheeky teeky.

at any rate I 100% believe flicker's claim too.

-tor

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

VOTE: nicorobin

porkens is still on his town meta even if he is not playing

-tor

[Elsa Jay]

If you beleive it Tor, we'd like to confirm it's true. Your vote now lets her prove herself as Priest with the non Self-Hammer.

Vote her to confirm her. Any unvotes on her is scum who dont want her to prove her role.

[ruru]

votecount

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Flicker (7):	northsidegal (153),	Chickadee (1241),	Reasonably Rational (1459),	CheekyTeeky (1460),	Chara (1462),	Elsa Jay (1465),	BuJaber (1489),
NicoRobin (3):	Malakittens (1191),	TPFKAP (1274),	Nancy Drew Shogunate (1504),
TPFKAP (2):	Thor665 (1275),	Flicker (1502),
Reasonably Rational (1):	NicoRobin (473),
Elsa Jay (1):	Toogeloo (729),
BuJaber (1):	Skygazer (881),
Thor665 (1):	Jingle (1295),
Skygazer (1):	Gamma Emerald (1478),
Not voting (0):

(expired on 2018-10-16 02:00:00) remain.

[Thor665]

1 day and 20 pages?

Yeah - I'm skipping all of that.
Off of Page 1 I liked Elsa and Toranaga.

Is anyone in quickMjolnir range yet?

That and your second post made me slightly cautious. Just saying.

So your saying Tora is scum defending town here? Nani?!

Yeah, that's absolutely a claim that I will hammer randomly

Yes, I am saying exactly that - why is it confusing to you as an idea?

Flicker's claim is early enough to be 'meh' but since it got me a TPFKAP vote as well I'll admit to just deciding 'town enough' and riding this rampage train a bit further.
I'd also do Toranaga. The absolute avoidance of me is triggering me to high heaven, and I'm going to keep mentioning it until other people notice and wagon him up.

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

If you beleive it Tor, we'd like to confirm it's true. Your vote now lets her prove herself as Priest with the non Self-Hammer.

Vote her to confirm her. Any unvotes on her is scum who dont want her to prove her role.

she is of course telling the truth about her role ability

this won't prove her alignment either way

and no, I'd rather not waste everyone's time on this.

-tor

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

1 day and 20 pages?

Yeah - I'm skipping all of that.
Off of Page 1 I liked Elsa and Toranaga.

Is anyone in quickMjolnir range yet?

That and your second post made me slightly cautious. Just saying.

So your saying Tora is scum defending town here? Nani?!

Yeah, that's absolutely a claim that I will hammer randomly

Yes, I am saying exactly that - why is it confusing to you as an idea?

Flicker's claim is early enough to be 'meh' but since it got me a TPFKAP vote as well I'll admit to just deciding 'town enough' and riding this rampage train a bit further.
I'd also do Toranaga. The absolute avoidance of me is triggering me to high heaven, and I'm going to keep mentioning it until other people notice and wagon him up.

we talked, your opinions are shit, IDK how to parse you out and you're confusing me with my hydra partner and not making sense

-tor

[Elsa Jay]

If you beleive it Tor, we'd like to confirm it's true. Your vote now lets her prove herself as Priest with the non Self-Hammer.

Vote her to confirm her. Any unvotes on her is scum who dont want her to prove her role.

she is of course telling the truth about her role ability

this won't prove her alignment either way

and no, I'd rather not waste everyone's time on this.

-tor

Scummy in the sense that your not letting a townie confirm herself, Tora.

Thor, help Flicker prove her claim. Vote to let her try to self-Hammer.

[Flicker]

Flicker: mentioned what i knew of Porkens because i glanced at the thread and Chick's post is what i saw on the most recent page.
voting me for saying "reread" as a Freudian slip is rather funny, though. what benefit would there be to pretending i wasn't caught up?

Actually, Chick's post about TPFKAP came after yours, so you couldn't have been responding to her post on the subject? Unless you're talking about a different Chick post (which you failed to specify)?

IDK, it allows you more time without giving/faking reads, denies town information, lets you get the lay of the land for longer? I'm not as interested in the potential benefit to scum as the lack of benefit for a townie to withhold that they've read.

(Sorry, I'm phone-posting right now, so I'm a little all over the place in terms of organizing my responses.)

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

"flicker's claim is early enough to be "meh"" from thor is all kinds of puke

pedit: do you think she is lying about her ability ever? why would she even do that? the hammer won't "confirm" her as town, elsa.

-tor

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

let's make sure we all understand flicker's ability is straight up NAI and she would never lie about not being able to self hammer cause she'd be lynched for it with 0 compensation for claiming this. I'm townreading her posting around the claim cause it feels pure.

-tor

[Elsa Jay]

"flicker's claim is early enough to be "meh"" from thor is all kinds of puke

pedit: do you think she is lying about her ability ever? why would she even do that? the hammer won't "confirm" her as town, elsa.

-tor

It doesn't, but it confirms she isnt lying about her role, and takes a flavor for scum to use out of the equation later.

Confirming her and having her be automatically assumed as town lets her take the NK as a IC who is kinda a detriment. Having her confirm her role gives us more to work with even if she IS scum.

Petit: IF YOU DON'T THINK SHE'S LYING, LET HER PROVE IT'S HER ROLE.

Caps lock off.

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

she won't be confirmed town, elsa. this ability is NAI, she can be anything for it.

I'm not voting people I'm townreading to test things that don't matter.

-tor

[Thor665]

we talked, your opinions are Smurf, IDK how to parse you out and you're confusing me with my hydra partner and not making sense

So now you claim you don't know how to read me when before you were claiming my comments proved I was scum?
Magical.
And I'm sorry for "confusing" you with your hydra partner who made up meta on me and you apparently are down with her ducking explaining that while letting her advance that little gem into the discussion
Also, we didn't talk. i talked, you loudly proclaimed me as scum and then started running silent. Even your answer here shows an awareness that you're lying because now you're coming up with this "IDK how to parse Thor" spiel to justify how you weren't interacting with me. Don't spit on my head and tell me it's raining.

Thor, help Flicker prove her claim. Vote to let her try to self-Hammer.

Let's say we 100% prove Flicker is a Priest?
What does that get us exactly alignment wise?
PEDIT - apparently your goal is to create an IC. Having lack of ability to hammer oneself doesn't make one an IC - but if you feel this way feel free to protect Flicker. I decided not to vote him prior to the claim, and I don't vote town reads because that's not how the game is played.

"flicker's claim is early enough to be "meh"" from thor is all kinds of puke

Fascinating.
Why?

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

you're being a lot more forceful and a very shit which is different than the towngames you played with me. IDK if that makes you scum and I said a couple of times I'm not in position to parse you out because my experience with you is limited. this is the first time you make me cringe in a game though, and you're doing it a lot.

-tor

[Elsa Jay]

she won't be confirmed town, elsa. this ability is NAI, she can be anything for it.

I'm not voting people I'm townreading to test things that don't matter.

-tor

Oh my gawd, Tora...

How many roles besides IC get to confirm their roles d1 like this. Why are you denying her the ability to confirm her role?

If your worried about me hammering I'm already voting her, if its someone else then they confirmed scum.

Just let her prove its her role. It's a net gain for town no matter how you slice it.

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

"flicker's claim is early enough to be "meh"" from thor is all kinds of puke

Fascinating.
Why?

just how is it "meh"?

-tor

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

elsa, remember how annoyed you were at people debating you over and over and going nowhere? this flicker discussion is the same thing. you're not right and I'm not voting flicker, sorry dear.

-tor

[Thor665]

you're being a lot more forceful and a very Smurf which is different than the towngames you played with me. IDK if that makes you scum and I said a couple of times I'm not in position to parse you out because my experience with you is limited. this is the first time you make me cringe in a game though, and you're doing it a lot.

-tor

I'm being more forceful than my town play?
How do you define forceful?

"flicker's claim is early enough to be "meh"" from thor is all kinds of puke

Fascinating.
Why?

just how is it "meh"?

-tor

Because it robbed town of getting complete wagon info and hammer intent to mine.
How is my opinion "puke"?
You ducked that question really hard.

[Elsa Jay]

elsa, remember how annoyed you were at people debating you over and over and going nowhere? this flicker discussion is the same thing. you're not right and I'm not voting flicker, sorry dear.

-tor

I was annoyed at THAT because it threatened my wincon.

I'm adamant here because your trying to let her go scot free when she literally has the power to confirm her role. Scum or town doesn't matter at this point. Let her confirm it's her role and that she aint bullshit.

[Reasonably Rational]

she won't be confirmed town, elsa. this ability is NAI, she can be anything for it.

I'm not voting people I'm townreading to test things that don't matter.

-tor

Oh my gawd, Tora...

How many roles besides IC get to confirm their roles d1 like this. Why are you denying her the ability to confirm her role?

If your worried about me hammering I'm already voting her, if its someone else then they confirmed scum.

Just let her prove its her role. It's a net gain for town no matter how you slice it.

? It's extremely immaterial. We can have it happen, but it doesn't matter. They could just as easily be someone with that modifier and some other ability who is scum. They could be NU for scum. They could be town.

Proving that they can't self-hammer(because technically, that's all this would prove, not that they can't hammer someone else) does nothing as far as sorting their slot is concerned.

More information is good, unless it's useless information, which it would be in this case.

-Cerb

[Flicker]

I mean, what other priest-like characters are there in Firefly/Serenity, even? If I'm not Book, who on Earth would I be? And if Book's not town, what even is this game?

(And yes, to answer an earlier question I keep forgetting about, it's been a while since I've seen either. I used to be deep in the fandom stuff, though, which I'm relying on to carry me, but d'oh on forgetting Mr. Universe, assuming that's who you - RR? - were alluding to as a major ally in the movie.)