Open 736: Diffusion of Power - Game Over

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Sorry I really don't buy Gamma sitting here calling me town after I've been pushing on him the whole game. That's strange to me.
I definitely buy scum!Gamma sitting here calling me town waiting until the game goes late enough to mislynch me because he doesn't want to have the fight at a point where I can stipulate that he absolutely gets lynched when I flip town and then have to try to fight his way out of it, even though no one would prolly sheep me in this lobby.

I dunno. Dealing with bullshit tilts me and when I'm wrong as town I'm usually wrong in the direction of errantly scumreading people scumreading me.
The fact that I think Gamma is scum when he's never pushed on me makes me ++confident in him actually being scum, plus this check objectively doesn't make sense.

Holy balls no. I get tilted, but getting tilted with you just causes more problems imo. As for “the check doesn’t make sense”, that’s a load of crock. My primary philosophy for using cop is resolving question marks. Spoogh was a question mark thanks to not being around for eod2 and no one having expressed a read on them recently. I can present games where I talk about this philosophy jsyk. My number one reason for the philosophy is kinda moot actually, but I still think it was smart

All of the above is true but like where does the unwavering townread on me come from? because ime town never townread me.

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You're familiar with team mafia man

it's true that as of this year I haven't been efforting as scum but like in terms of an overall picture of my two games I have absolutely given this much effort into scum games before

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Like I love you if you're town who actually has me pinned as town because that just does't happen to me anymore but I just don't see it.

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If anyone claims N3 cop we should lynch in {Nicholas Cage / Implosion} and put the 1v1 off a day.

i mean if gamma is faking a guilty idk why he'd do it on you and not like ... rc or implosion or a50 - someone that would be incredibly hard to lynch as town without a guilty on them

Only A50 is not heavily in the lynchpool of that group though lol and he has to be afraid of losing the 1v1.

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EH, but that involves them claiming and if Gamma is town with a real guilty then hmm

Would be nice if like Implo claimed N3 cop right now and we could kill two birds with one stone.

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Unfortunately if Spoogh is willing to forfeit the 1v1 they prevent a result. I'm not sure if an N3 cop should claim.

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I guess I'm moreso envisioning Skitter claiming N3 cop than like Implo or Nicholas Cage doing so

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i mean if gamma is faking a guilty idk why he'd do it on you and not like ... rc or implosion or a50 - someone that would be incredibly hard to lynch as town without a guilty on them

wait what the fuck

I swear to god

I remember you making this post and me responding to it

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oh yeah you did

i mean you actively tried to get implosion lynched yesterday

What does this mean to you?

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If anyone claims N3 cop we should lynch in {Nicholas Cage / Implosion} and put the 1v1 off a day.

you want spooge to doc (or 'doc' as the case may be) a n3 cop and resolve it tomorrow?

why not just resolve it today?

Because it saves a mislynch potentially if I think that Gamma is scum

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I think that's a very, very strange way to read the situation. I think most people would deduce the exact opposite.

because you'd want the cop to check gamma?

No, because I want the cop to check whoever and then we get that result safely OR Scum!Spoogh guarantees a loss of the 1v1 to prevent that result.

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I mean it's the kind of way I consistently play the game, if there's no PRs there's no benefit to lynching outed scum and you can hunt the other scum with all the players alive.

why?

Because in a general sense I think most scum want to just get on the wagon for towncred and not actively resist it because they'll think it looks bad
whereas town have other things going on that they want to deal with.

Does this apply to me? Not really because I am more than wise to how other people are gonna read that fact and I could make this decision for that reason.
but it should absolutely not be seen as scum indicative when it's my approach near 100% of the time to guiltied scum in games where they have no power.
keep going for the big fish scum and lynch the guiltied scum when all the other scum are dead.

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Like I feel like NC is scum right now and if it is we can just end the game right now and not have to think about it anymore which is doubleplusgood
since frankly I loathe this game, I loathe the fact that I agreed to be copped and got fuck for it, and I just want to move on to learning from this game

i'll go back to PLing people who claim cop results on me when there was no reason to sus me.

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like this game should tell a lot of people a lot about why I typically play the game like I do. Giving my enemies inroads into weakening me doesn't work, you just get games like this.
I can't let my guard down, ever, or I'm throwing the game for everyone involved. Gotta be big bad jerk RC or I don't even get to play the game.

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VOTE: Nicholas Cage

My vote goes here.

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I think he respects me enough to know that if I scumread him he is going to die.

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Talk about intellectual dishonesty: there was a fucking guilty, no shit I couldn't swing a lynch yesterday.
And look, there's another guilty today, and I can't swing a lynch. I wonder if these things are related...

At least if Spoogh flips town we can be 100% sure you get powerlynched before endgame :shrug:

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Only for their pet scumreads. Not because I want to lead a lynch. huge difference in the scenarios and you should know that? like you implying that isn't a thing is bonkers

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W/e. It’s not an important point. The more important one is it makes way more sense for him to just shoot you if he’s that afraid of you specifically. That might not be true if he was afraid of creature too though.

creature was conftown and agreed with my lynchpool.

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like we're literally the same slot reads wise except 1 of us is getting pled before endgame guaranteed and the other isn't. and shooting me looks really bad for him on top of the creature follow up.

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I'm gonna get mislynched at some point. Creature isn't.

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Also, like, implo

If you're town scum is dependent on me to mislynch you as part of their wincon

why would they kill me before that

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RC was 1) already in the lynchpool and 2) many times more likely to freak out enough that Gamma gets lynched instead.

Also as soon as I die Implosion is no longer a viable (mis)lynch.

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I'm happy with my vote where it is.

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eh

VOTE: Gamma

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unless you'd be willing to take a leap of faith with me <3

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if he flips green then I'm in a much better position to get nightkilled and probably copped the same night.

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i would prefer neither of those things happen.

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i can also accept 1/2 of those things happening.

i don't want both of them to happen at the same time.

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i am really good at this game

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Skitter town
A50 town
NM spewed town by Spoogh ISO imo if he wasn't cleared already
CreativeMod1 town

leftovers
Spoogh
M&M
Implo
NC

think NC has the highest equity followed by implo (obviously), if there's a cop on any of the 3 of us including me I'm willing to call this solved at this point

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Skitter are you cop with a result?

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ick

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If A50 is scum he's winning basically.

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I'm not letting him get lynched over you if I get cleared, I'm sure you won't let him get lynched over me if you get cleared, both of us will go down if nic cage gets cleared.

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if anyone has a result go time, yea

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inno on skitter isn't a result btw, don't claim if you docced skitter.

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I checked rc last night and was informed he's town

Im pretty sure its just nc and was going to check him but i was weighing how annoyed i'd be if rc was actually scum and i didnt check him when i had the oppurtunity to do so

Im guessing i got docced last night, thanks; i wasnt entirely sure i was going to last long enough to use the cop shot.

I agree that if you're a doc who docced me you shouldnt claim, but if you docced anyone else and it could be clearing you should

If you ever say that any read you have on me puts me above (average equity +5%) I'm going to vote you in future games

Remaining lynches are NC Implosion Spooghetrioso no substitutions.

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Im pretty sure its just nc and was going to check him but i was weighing how annoyed i'd be if rc was actually scum and i didnt check him when i had the oppurtunity to do so

This attitude is so fucking garbage

Why does this apply to me and not others?

Like why is losing to me so much bigger of a deal than anyone else

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If Implo wants a50 Lynch he gets it over nc not himself

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Like I'm fucking hard spewed town beyond any shadow of a doubt by my carca interactions in a daytalkless game and I was still having to fight all game


It's tilting and it makes my reads end up bad

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VOTE: implosion

Best lynch today, and he can determine the lynch tomorrow as conftown.

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I still thought you were a pretty solid candidate for scum after gamma flipped town.

Let's be clear
Anyone who thought I had

any

chance of being scum with my Skitter interactions as they were has bad reads or is scum.
I think implosion ought to be better than this. Skitter agreed but I don't necessarily think she ought to be better than this given her results in this/last game.

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I'm not okay with me dying and y'all letting implo walk to endgame
I'm conftown now sheep me tyty

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@creativemod/not_mafia

almost50 is 100% town
creativemod1 is 100% town

do not lynch anyone besides implosion if nc flips town

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I still thought you were a pretty solid candidate for scum after gamma flipped town.

Let's be clear
Anyone who thought I had

any

chance of being scum with my Skitter interactions as they were has bad reads or is scum.
I think implosion ought to be better than this. Skitter agreed but I don't necessarily think she ought to be better than this given her results in this/last game.

anyone who thinks i have any chance of being scum with *my* skitter interactions as they were has bad reads or is scum as well.

actually fuck off.

this statement is nonsensical. your skitter interactions are if anything scummy :shrug:

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okay i just realized that nick cage replaced the bird so that makes sense

also i do not understand why people would want to kill me instead of nick cage because i am atleast trying but nick cage is not and i have said more stuff than the people with that role so i am more useful like are you all just trying to be mean to me because i am new or did nick cage do something that makes him town?

like i'm not sure this is a svs comment

both of the other slots that could pot. be scum not only call implo town but call him town in a rly forced way that makes me feel like it was a planned strategy to have them call implo town

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like its very minor and NC should definitely go
but Implo makes a shitton of sense as a scumbuddy with both flipped scum from their ISOs
NC so some extent does and also has a really shitty ISO

but A50 doesn't make sense as scum with spoogh at all
and NM doesn't really make sense as scum with either

so like it's really those two