Open 736: Diffusion of Power - Game Over

[implosion]

I still just don’t see motivation for gamma to claim here if he’s scum and spoogh is town.

[Music and Mail]

I think he respects me enough to know that if I scumread him he is going to die.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well, Gamma has certainly put some work into reads, Spoog has refused to give a list even though that's what I was waiting for, and M&M has abandoned Gamma. Not sure what to do with that last bit but ok.

If Spoog flips town then I think we'll have more to work with in finding Gamma's partner.

My main concern is that Gamma's reads seemed a little bit political. I guess M&M observed this for his slot and I kinda felt like Gamma was dancing around my slot as well.

But I don't know that's enough because I also somewhat got the sense that for at least some slots Gamma was trying to sort, and I'm not really getting that from Spoog right now. Spoog seems to be mostly playing the newbie card.

Honestly I've had a hard time getting either one of these slots outside of null. The main thing I had liked about Gamma was Gamma's interaction with Spoog earlier so trying to re-evaluate that part of the game is throwing me off.

How am I dancing around you? I have to sort you, and at the point I am currently there's absolute jack to work with.

[implosion]

Given how you couldn’t swing me or him yesterday and he could have shot you last night if that were the case, I’m very skeptical of that.

The only way it makes sense at all is if you or a50 is scum who told him to do it as a way to catapult you to endgame but that’s kind of far fetched I think. I could maybe see it with you.

[Music and Mail]

Talk about intellectual dishonesty: there was a fucking guilty, no shit I couldn't swing a lynch yesterday.
And look, there's another guilty today, and I can't swing a lynch. I wonder if these things are related...

At least if Spoogh flips town we can be 100% sure you get powerlynched before endgame :shrug:

[implosion]

I also don’t remember the reasons for thinking spoogh was town off the top of my head.

And like fucking everyone was willing to lynch outside of the guilty yesterday.

[Music and Mail]

Only for their pet scumreads. Not because I want to lead a lynch. huge difference in the scenarios and you should know that? like you implying that isn't a thing is bonkers

[implosion]

W/e. It’s not an important point. The more important one is it makes way more sense for him to just shoot you if he’s that afraid of you specifically. That might not be true if he was afraid of creature too though.

[skitter30]

Well, Gamma has certainly put some work into reads, Spoog has refused to give a list even though that's what I was waiting for, and M&M has abandoned Gamma. Not sure what to do with that last bit but ok.

If Spoog flips town then I think we'll have more to work with in finding Gamma's partner.

My main concern is that Gamma's reads seemed a little bit political. I guess M&M observed this for his slot and I kinda felt like Gamma was dancing around my slot as well.

But I don't know that's enough because I also somewhat got the sense that for at least some slots Gamma was trying to sort, and I'm not really getting that from Spoog right now. Spoog seems to be mostly playing the newbie card.

Honestly I've had a hard time getting either one of these slots outside of null. The main thing I had liked about Gamma was Gamma's interaction with Spoog earlier so trying to re-evaluate that part of the game is throwing me off.

this is kinda meh and a really long-winded way of not taking a stance

like there's no conclusion here

[skitter30]

I think he respects me enough to know that if I scumread him he is going to die.

honestly i think he'd just nk you

[skitter30]

I also don’t remember the reasons for thinking spoogh was town off the top of my head.

And like fucking everyone was willing to lynch outside of the guilty yesterday.

you liked him cuz he sounded tonally good or something in a few posts irrc

[Music and Mail]

W/e. It’s not an important point. The more important one is it makes way more sense for him to just shoot you if he’s that afraid of you specifically. That might not be true if he was afraid of creature too though.

creature was conftown and agreed with my lynchpool.

[Music and Mail]

like we're literally the same slot reads wise except 1 of us is getting pled before endgame guaranteed and the other isn't. and shooting me looks really bad for him on top of the creature follow up.

[implosion]

Not true. But okay.

[Music and Mail]

I'm gonna get mislynched at some point. Creature isn't.

[Nicolas Cage]

you know what

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

I think it'd be easier for Gamma to fake the pokemon interactions than spoog

[Gamma Emerald]

you know what

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

I think it'd be easier for Gamma to fake the pokemon interactions than spoog

What “Pokémon interactions”?

[Music and Mail]

Also, like, implo

If you're town scum is dependent on me to mislynch you as part of their wincon

why would they kill me before that

[Nicolas Cage]

What “Pokémon interactions”?

Back on page 9 of the game thread, your interaction with Spoog had initially struck me as possibly T&T. Seems like not now tho but that was what informed my read before so that's what I went back to now

[CreativeMod1]

I still just don’t see motivation for gamma to claim here if he’s scum and spoogh is town.

Right so I've been having a long think about things whilst at work, at the start of the day we had claimed:

A50-Doc
M&M-Doc
NM-Cop
Me-Cop
Skitter-Conf!Town

Implosion/NC/Spoog/Gamma-unclaimed

We also have 2 dead docs, 1 dead cop

As a mafia, you want to try and get rid of people who are yet to use their power, therefore claiming guilty on an unclaimed is 1 way of doing it as chances are, unclaimed are also unused

This could be a way of taking one for the team to take out someone still with a power, to help your buddy stay low under the radar

If this is the case then I think we either got 5 or 6 cops

[CreativeMod1]

I'm not sure where I stand between Gamma and Spoog, but if we do lynch outside of them, i'd rather we didn't lynch someone who is yet to use their power

[CreativeMod1]

Also, before it's pointed out, yes I realise that what I just said is pretty much the opposite of what I said in my last post when comparing the chances between SvS, SvT and TvS, some thinking is what has led me to doubt myself

[skitter30]

Spoiler:

the search results were confusing and i did not understand them

also the pokemon does not seem nice and why can we not vote dr monkey i mean i like dr monkey but i will still have to vote them if they are mafia

okay why is the penguin voting me i have not done anything

Who is the Pokémon?

okay i do not know what is up with the pink pokemon because they do no seem very nice but then they post pooh bear?

so maybe they are not all that bad

i do like the green one not in a friend way but in the game way so i do not think they are mafia and i do not mean that i dont want to be friends with them i mean that i think they are town role

i also like dr monkey as town so maybe skitter too because of what dr monkey said but i will have to think more about that

and the other black pokemon seems bad

okay im not sure if they are a pokemon but they are Carcalilly and they are not town role

PLEASE USE NAMES

the pokemon i meant in that one is the pink one called not mafia not the green or black one

also i do not know everyones names so i just use there picture because i dont want to copy paste there name each time

i do know not mafia names now but i dont want to use it because it is confusing with town and mafia roles

Ok
Well his Pokémon is miltank so pls call him that if you’re going to call multiple people pokemon

okay i will try to use miltank from now on thank you for telling me

And I assume Creature is the green Pokémon

@nc: why/how is the above convo ai in either direction? or partner-indicative in either direction?

like i read that as being basically nai except for spooge maybe playing up newbness

[Gamma Emerald]

What “Pokémon interactions”?

Back on page 9 of the game thread, your interaction with Spoog had initially struck me as possibly T&T. Seems like not now tho but that was what informed my read before so that's what I went back to now

Okay
I thought you meant interactions with either Creature or NM which would have been really strange if so
Don’t see why that has to be faked unless we’re scum together though?

[Nicolas Cage]

For Spoog I felt like creating pet names or jokes for every slot reflected engagement, that they were thinking about the slot and having fun with it. I feel like I see that sort of stuff more from town.

I felt like Gamma was trying to get past the jokes and get on the same level as Spoog which also seemed townie. Clearly I was wrong about one of the two, and looking at it now I guess Gamma's comments might have just been something in the ballpark of iioa, whereas my thoughts about Spoog kinda remain the same. It's not that I scumread Gamma for page 9, it's that there has to be scum in one of the two and for me Spoog still seems a bit townie from that interaction.