Open 736: Diffusion of Power - Game Over

[Gamma Emerald]

For Spoog I felt like creating pet names or jokes for every slot reflected engagement, that they were thinking about the slot and having fun with it. I feel like I see that sort of stuff more from town.

I felt like Gamma was trying to get past the jokes and get on the same level as Spoog which also seemed townie. Clearly I was wrong about one of the two, and looking at it now I guess Gamma's comments might have just been something in the ballpark of iioa, whereas my thoughts about Spoog kinda remain the same. It's not that I scumread Gamma for page 9, it's that there has to be scum in one of the two and for me Spoog still seems a bit townie from that interaction.

Well that’s not the only thing in the game. What do you think about everything else?

[skitter30]

A50-Doc
M&M-Doc
NM-Cop
Me-Cop
Skitter-Conf!Town

Implosion/NC/Spoog/Gamma-unclaimed

We also have 2 dead docs, 1 dead cop

uh spooge claimed d3 cop; gamma obviously claimed n2 cop

only people unclaimed afaik are me/implosion/nc

we've had: 3 doc claims (mm, a50, spooge) and two dead docs(penguin, creature), and 3 cop claims (you, nm, gamma) and one dead cop (bujaber), and one flipped scum

from my POV there are 10 players already claiming/claimed/flipped doc or cop, with a conflict in {spooge/gamma}

I'm not sure where I stand between Gamma and Spoog, but if we do lynch outside of them, i'd rather we didn't lynch someone who is yet to use their power

spooge claimed n3 doc. what do you think he should do with it

[CreativeMod1]

A50-Doc
M&M-Doc
NM-Cop
Me-Cop
Skitter-Conf!Town

Implosion/NC/Spoog/Gamma-unclaimed

We also have 2 dead docs, 1 dead cop

uh spooge claimed d3 cop; gamma obviously claimed n2 cop

only people unclaimed afaik are me/implosion/nc

we've had: 3 doc claims (mm, a50, spooge) and two dead docs(penguin, creature), and 3 cop claims (you, nm, gamma) and one dead cop (bujaber), and one flipped scum

from my POV there are 10 players already claiming/claimed/flipped doc or cop, with a conflict in {spooge/gamma}

I'm not sure where I stand between Gamma and Spoog, but if we do lynch outside of them, i'd rather we didn't lynch someone who is yet to use their power

spooge claimed n3 doc. what do you think he should do with it

I still just don’t see motivation for gamma to claim here if he’s scum and spoogh is town.

Right so I've been having a long think about things whilst at work,

at the start of the day we had claimed:

A50-Doc
M&M-Doc
NM-Cop
Me-Cop
Skitter-Conf!Town

Implosion/NC/Spoog/Gamma-unclaimed

We also have 2 dead docs, 1 dead cop

As a mafia, you want to try and get rid of people who are yet to use their power, therefore claiming guilty on an unclaimed is 1 way of doing it as chances are, unclaimed are also unused

This could be a way of taking one for the team to take out someone still with a power, to help your buddy stay low under the radar

If this is the case then I think we either got 5 or 6 cops

My post was about the start of the day, getting in the mindset of if Gamma was scum, why would they guilty Spoog

[skitter30]

For Spoog I felt like creating pet names or jokes for every slot reflected engagement, that they were thinking about the slot and having fun with it. I feel like I see that sort of stuff more from town.

I felt like Gamma was trying to get past the jokes and get on the same level as Spoog which also seemed townie.Clearly I was wrong about one of the two, and looking at it now I guess Gamma's comments might have just been something in the ballpark of iioa, whereas my thoughts about Spoog kinda remain the same. It's not that I scumread Gamma for page 9, it's that there has to be scum in one of the two and for me Spoog still seems a bit townie from that interaction.

i felt like spooge was talking about pokemon/avis/people's names almost like instead of talking about the game and like i guess i can maybe see what you're saying but like i don't super strongly feel like that convo was really ai for either of them

[skitter30]

My post was about the start of the day, getting in the mindset of if Gamma was scum, why would they guilty Spoog

fair, i missed that clause

[skitter30]

actually i apparently misread like your whole post, sorry

[CreativeMod1]

Also, speaking to those who have played this set-up before

When a mafia claims doc/cop...what's the likelyhood of them using the information of how many of each roles are in game e.g. would a mafia claim to being a cop because they know there isn't a full set of 6 cops?

[CreativeMod1]

actually i apparently misread like your whole post, sorry

[skitter30]

actually i apparently misread like your whole post, sorry

yeah sorry, i sometimes read very fast and only catch some sentences and misread things as a result; didn't mean to do it on purpose

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, speaking to those who have played this set-up before

When a mafia claims doc/cop...what's the likelyhood of them using the information of how many of each roles are in game e.g. would a mafia claim to being a cop because they know there isn't a full set of 6 cops?

Certain. As I mentioned in first post if the game the last run had a strategy play out where everyone claimed a role but not the night they could use it (so just cop or doc). When I posted about it I said it should be done early because the first scumslip would make the strategy ineffective at finding any scum, since at that point the could claim in a way that fit the existing roles. In all:
4:6 - whatever role there are 4 of
5:5 - one of each

[CreativeMod1]

Lol all good, I find I skim read a lot, especially the first few days when there's just so much stuff written haha

[Almost50]

I still just don’t see motivation for gamma to claim here if he’s scum and spoogh is town.

Right so I've been having a long think about things whilst at work, at the start of the day we had claimed:

A50-Doc
M&M-Doc
NM-Cop
Me-Cop
Skitter-Conf!Town

Implosion/NC/Spoog/Gamma-unclaimed

We also have 2 dead docs, 1 dead cop

As a mafia, you want to try and get rid of people who are yet to use their power, therefore claiming guilty on an unclaimed is 1 way of doing it as chances are, unclaimed are also unused

This could be a way of taking one for the team to take out someone still with a power, to help your buddy stay low under the radar

If this is the case then I think we either got 5 or 6 cops

I'll concede this is a possibility. Now, would you have faked the guilty on Spoogh or implosion out of that pool (if you were in Scum!Gamma's shoes, that is)?

Spoiler: My Answer

I would have claimed it on RC! But that's just me.

[Music and Mail]

RC was 1) already in the lynchpool and 2) many times more likely to freak out enough that Gamma gets lynched instead.

Also as soon as I die Implosion is no longer a viable (mis)lynch.

[Almost50]

Also, speaking to those who have played this set-up before

When a mafia claims doc/cop...what's the likelyhood of them using the information of how many of each roles are in game e.g. would a mafia claim to being a cop because they know there isn't a full set of 6 cops?

Of course they would. We have 2 Mafiosos/Mafiosi alive now, and they would both claim Cops if we have 4 Cops and 6 Doctors. They would both claim Doctors if it's the opposite, and one will claim Cop and the other Doctor if it was evenly split.

[teacher]

VOTE COUNT 3.4 and Updates

Deadline:

Sunset

9:00am NYC on Sunday, October 21

, or

(expired on 2018-10-21 09:00:00)

With nine alive, it takes five to lynch.

Player	Vote Total	Vote Identity
Almost50	0
Music and Mail	0
Gamma Emerald	3	Spooghetioso 2123; Not_Mafia 2166; Nicolas Cage 2240
Not_Mafia	0
CreativeMod1	0
implosion	0
Nicolas Cage	1	Music and Mail 2222
Spooghetioso	3	Gamma Emerald 2102; Almost50 2129; implosion 2154
Skitter30	0

NOT VOTING:

Skitter30 2224; CreativeMod1

Spoiler: Votes since last votecount not reflected above

None.

Mod Notes

• Skitter30 v/la Fridays and Saturdays generally

[CreativeMod1]

Quick question

Who is RC?? I feel I should've asked this a while ago but I think at some point I thought it was M&M but M&M just spoke about RC so it clearly can't be them xD

[Gamma Emerald]

No M&M is RC, they were just referring to themselves in the third person

[CreativeMod1]

Also, speaking to those who have played this set-up before

When a mafia claims doc/cop...what's the likelyhood of them using the information of how many of each roles are in game e.g. would a mafia claim to being a cop because they know there isn't a full set of 6 cops?

Of course they would. We have 2 Mafiosos/Mafiosi alive now, and they would both claim Cops if we have 4 Cops and 6 Doctors. They would both claim Doctors if it's the opposite, and one will claim Cop and the other Doctor if it was evenly split.

So with Carca claiming Cop, chances are we probably have 5 cops max

Also, this was my reason behind not wanting to hammer onto Spoog quite yet, if spoog flips mafia then their claim of doc could mean that we are in a 5-5 game?

[CreativeMod1]

No M&M is RC, they were just referring to themselves in the third person

Oh okay...this is why I shouldn't play mafia at 4:30am xD

[Almost50]

So with Carca claiming Cop, chances are we probably have 5 cops max

Also, this was my reason behind not wanting to hammer onto Spoog quite yet, if spoog flips mafia then their claim of doc could mean that we are in a 5-5 game?

Yes to both, bar some bad play by Mafia (or some

good

play sacrificing oneself for the survival of another).

Like, if we had 6 Doctors and 4 Cops and then we massclaimed on D1 (say, just for the sake of argument) then 2 scums will safely claim Cop. The 2rd claiming Cop also makes us lynch in Cops first. However, the third claiming Doc makes us lynch in the Doctors first and leave the Cops alone.

[Music and Mail]

I'm happy with my vote where it is.

[skitter30]

VOTE: spooge

[Music and Mail]

eh

VOTE: Gamma

[Almost50]

VOTE: spooge

eh

VOTE: Gamma

That's 2 players @L-1 with CMod to decide the lynch.

[Music and Mail]

unless you'd be willing to take a leap of faith with me <3