Overkill 1: Serenity/Firefly (GAME OVER)

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

Which leads me to expand on why Tor townreading you (Elsa) early was scummy.

From a scum POV as far as he's concerned you're not on his team so the first assumption is that you're town. I already laid out my reasons early game about why it was difficult to see you as towny. In Be Yourself Mafia I was scum and NSG was 3p so although people who read her consistently well were scumreading her, I was biased to see her as townie because I knew she wasn't scum. I feel like that's pretty much exactly what happened to produce Tor's early townread on you.

Cheeky, when did our slot change from obvtown to nullsscum/scumlean for you?

You are now sr us for pretty much the same reasons that you tr us earlier.

~ Nancy

[CheekyTeeky]

Cheeky, when did our slot change from obvtown to nullsscum/scumlean for you?

You are now sr us for pretty much the same reasons that you tr us earlier.

~ Nancy

What reasons do you think I'm scumreading/townreading you for?

[Toogeloo]

Intersect: {Toog, Cheeky, RC/Chara, Elsa}

Definitely scum among the intersect.

No pretty sure there's no scum in this intersect...

To be fair, Elsa is scum in the intersect.

[Toogeloo]

Toog answer this simple question: do you think Elsa will endgame as scum?

The more important question is, is she willing to lose with town if we are in bad shape come day 3 or 4?

[McMenno]

any random group of four is going to have scum more likely than not unless you believe there to be less than four scum so I don't think it's a very meaningful statement anyway

[Elsa Jay]

Intersect: {Toog, Cheeky, RC/Chara, Elsa}

Definitely scum among the intersect.

No pretty sure there's no scum in this intersect...

To be fair, Elsa is scum in the intersect.

One: still not true.

Two: I'm gonna be riding with my friends for as long as i can. If scum kill me because of it, so be it. I'll keep as much intregity as I can. Not dignity tho. Already threw that out the window.l

[ruru]

votecount

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

BuJaber (5):	McMenno (881),	Jingle (1594),	Toogeloo (1598),	Chickadee (1607),	Elsa Jay (1669),
TPFKAP (3):	Thor665 (1275),	Flicker (1502),	Gamma Emerald (1595),
NicoRobin (2):	Malakittens (1191),	TPFKAP (1274),
Flicker (2):	northsidegal (153),	Reasonably Rational (1459),
Reasonably Rational (1):	NicoRobin (473),
northsidegal (1):	CheekyTeeky (1631),
Malakittens (1):	Nancy Drew Shogunate (1651),
Chara (1):	BuJaber (1671),
Not voting (1):	Chara (1616),

(expired on 2018-10-16 02:00:00) remain.

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

we're voting mala over nico because nico has done nothing while mala's posting has been scummy

since chara is now scumreading/suspecting mala, I'm throwing out the idea they could be masons or whatever I was thinking

@nancy

-tor

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

Which leads me to expand on why Tor townreading you (Elsa) early was scummy.

From a scum POV as far as he's concerned you're not on his team so the first assumption is that you're town. I already laid out my reasons early game about why it was difficult to see you as towny. In Be Yourself Mafia I was scum and NSG was 3p so although people who read her consistently well were scumreading her, I was biased to see her as townie because I knew she wasn't scum. I feel like that's pretty much exactly what happened to produce Tor's early townread on you.

which leads to me reading the game differently from you and everyone else and finding towny things on posting that I'm the only one that can see it

it's not cause you TMI read people as town when you're scum that, whenever people townread anyone and you can't figure out why, they're scum.

and yeah, I'd scumread that post of yours if I didn't know you better.

-tor

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

"tor is scum because I was once scum and townread a 3p"

:thonking:

-tor

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

3p's posts aren't naturally scummy. they're clueless like town is clueless. NSG was being townread as 3p cause it's easy to appear towny as 3p. you don't have the weight of knowing pack of scum and agenda behind your interactions with scum. you can't really catch 3p over stuff like that. you catch 3p on thinner reads on them not caring who gets lynched etc. none of the shit anyone said was scummy of elsa was actually scummy of elsa apart from the 3p slips which IIRC I was (also) the only one reading it correctly. so bless me and sucks to be not me.

-tor

[Gamma Emerald]

Nico's lurkness is NAI. She does it as both alignments ime. There's Be Yourself Mafia as an example of her lurking as town in a way that's similar to this game.

NSG is 3p in this game too with similar activity levels to this game - active early, tunneling, tapering off.

There's also a sample of my scum meta in it which will make any doubters lol at themselves for thinking I'm scum here.

Has she made a big stink about it? She tends to do that as scum

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

VOTE: malakittens

ok

pedit: that's still me elsa

Tora, talk to me. Kthanx.

~N

I should hire you as a personal ombudsman

-tor

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

-tor

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

well I'm out all day so here is another love song

-tor

[BuJaber]

any random group of four is going to have scum more likely than not unless you believe there to be less than four scum so I don't think it's a very meaningful statement anyway

Thanks for reducing all my work to a 'random group of four'.

[Chara]

i kind of want to vote Gamma here. are you caught up, Gamma?

[BuJaber]

Malak how do you read me?

[Chara]

Nancy, Tor, do you two have a hydra PT? i'd rather you two played like one slot instead of like masons without a PT.

also, i'd like to hear more about my good scumgame. this has nothing to do with my ego, probably.

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

Nancy, Tor, do you two have a hydra PT? i'd rather you two played like one slot instead of like masons without a PT.

also, i'd like to hear more about my good scumgame. this has nothing to do with my ego, probably.

we are constantly talking about the game, we're just having time differences so when she is reading the thread I'm often not around and vice versa

your good scum game being the one you fooled me with, of course. you don't remember that?

-tor

[Chara]

Twin Trap? of course i remember it. my posting was pretty wooden though, we barely scraped through. not that i'm not proud of the game.
but if you're using it to say that my being towny here doesn't matter because i fooled you as scum once, i'd like to see comparisons. i personally don't think my Twin Trap play was all that genuine. i've had more comfortable scumgames.

[Nancy Drew Shogunate]

I'm not using it for anything other than I'm not necessarily going to townread you for much of what you did so far

although I like this approach to me and I like that post jingle mentioned as both towny

-tor

[Jingle]

Nico's lurkness is NAI. She does it as both alignments ime. There's Be Yourself Mafia as an example of her lurking as town in a way that's similar to this game.

NSG is 3p in this game too with similar activity levels to this game - active early, tunneling, tapering off.

There's also a sample of my scum meta in it which will make any doubters lol at themselves for thinking I'm scum here.

NR in that game's ISO is better than in this one. She actually said mafia relevant things in three of her five posts and then got replaced. Comparitively, we have seen 0 mafia relevant things in this game.

I'll crack a beer and read the rest of the game when I have time, but it may take a while, because the postgame makes it sound like reading it is going to be hot garbage. :shrug:

[CheekyTeeky]

NR in that game's ISO is better than in this one. She actually said mafia relevant things in three of her five posts and then got replaced. Comparitively, we have seen 0 mafia relevant things in this game.

I'll crack a beer and read the rest of the game when I have time, but it may take a while, because the postgame makes it sound like reading it is going to be hot garbage. :shrug:

Are you talking about her claimimg her role because she had to in order to get her power enhanced. If she didn't have an incentive to talk mafia, I'm not confident her posting would be any different to here. I'm really defending her slot for town, I just think there's better lynches today, particularly if we consider the likelihood of her slot being replaced at some point.

Yeah that game was messy - town gave us the win from fighting amongst themselves. It was amusing from my PoV though

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm NOT really defending her slot for town

EBWOP.