Open 737: Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[Korina]

Where are you getting with that?

[Performer]

Isn't enigma overdue for prodding?

Also, is anyone here an alt or has alts? Reason for asking is meta comparisons.

[Performer]

Where are you getting with that?

Trying to vca some things and reread a few ISOs.

[Korina]

Isn't enigma overdue for prodding?

Also, is anyone here an alt or has alts? Reason for asking is meta comparisons.

Enigma is due for a prod, only by an hour though.
My only alt is Vex, who I was playing as. The reason why I was playing as Vex I already explained.

[ofrhz]

Prodding enigma

[Performer]

VOTE: skitter

[Korina]

Why Skitter?

[BuJaber]

@ele: let's see...
Possible scum teams:

If enigma flips town:
- ruru + you
- ruru + alonzo
- you + alonzo
And by PoE performer with any of {you, ruru, alonzo}
If enigma flips town then ruru dies at night (pretty much confirms alonzo town):
- you + performer

If enigma flips scum:
- you
- ruru
- performer
And alonzo by PoE
If enigma flips scum and ruru dies at night:
- you
- performer


Without getting two mislynches in a row I'm not considering korina.. pretty confident TR there. And skitter is just town.

[ruru]

- ruru + alonzo

this is probably a bit indicative of faked reads

[skitter30]

VOTE: skitter

Do tell

- ruru + alonzo

this is probably a bit indicative of faked reads

I think me not being included in that analysis is indicative of his read on me being faked (ie this is an example of abnormally strong reads, that he's considering you/alonzo as being more likely than me being scum at all)

[Korina]

Possible scum teams:

If enigma flips town:
- ruru + alonzo

What

Buj, what the fuck are you on rn?

[BuJaber]

VOTE: skitter

Do tell

- ruru + alonzo

this is probably a bit indicative of faked reads

I think me not being included in that analysis is indicative of his read on me being faked (ie this is an example of abnormally strong reads, that he's considering you/alonzo as being more likely than me being scum at all)

That's the thing with breaking the 4th wall.

@Korina: I was specifically listing possible scumteams based on my read. Before the nightkill happens neither ruru nor alonzo are confirmed. Both have been scummy at different times during the game and townie at others. Before the claim they were not obvtown by any means.

[Korina]

Buj, you are saying that literally both of them are lying, and for whatever reason during a massclaim one of the actual TPRs said VT.
Town is guaranteed to have one other TPR at the start of the game, meaning one of {Alonzo, Ruru} is being truthful.
We're pretty sure scum took one modifier, meaning that there'd be 3 TPRs meaning {Alonzo, Ruru} TPRs makes sense.

[BuJaber]

Not if a townie fake claimed VT. It's dangerous in this setup but there a few people here who if they did that as gc or tracker, will end up winning the game for town because they will never be NK'd and hopefully won't be lynched.

But basically yeah.. more reason to scumread enigma.

[Korina]

#2715

I literally explained that I was thinking about fakeclaiming TPR to draw away the NK.
I couldn't because fakeclaiming fmpov hurts town more than saving a TPR would help.

[BuJaber]

And I appreciate your thinking.

But fakeclaiming VT is the opposite. As long as you can avoid getting lynched, the advantages are well worth it.

[ofrhz]

VOTE COUNT 3.12

Alonzo (0):

Performer (0):

ruru (0):

BuJaber (3):

Irrelephant11, skitter30, Alonzo

(L-2)

Enigma (1):

BuJaber

Irrelephant11 (0):

skitter30 (1):

Performer

Korina (0):

No Kill (0):

Not Voting (3):

Enigma, Korina, ruru

With

8

alive, it takes

5

to kill.
Day 3 ends in (expired on 2018-10-16 07:30:00)

Other:

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[ruru]

hmm

I just realized tw's a50 gambit would be pretty risky from traitor (especially not knowing there's a roleblocker)

or like I didn't believe he could be a pr at all ever after some of his d1 posting but obviously if he's doing it then regardless of his alignment he believes it's believable which means from his perspective he would believe there's a risk of getting shot

[Irrelephant11]

I don't really see why that's so risky? If he's shot he's just confirmed to his groupscum partner
If he's not shot (which I don't think he would be because he's posted so much & we've talked so much about his potential traitor status I'm pretty sure his partner knows who he is) then he gets away with a PR claim later which is completely within his scum meta

[Irrelephant11]

what are the odds buj is gonna claim pr next gameday

[ruru]

I think losing a nightkill is pretty bad for scum (especially in evens)

[Irrelephant11]

I guess that's true, but like I said I don't think he'd get shot

[ruru]

it's not as strong a statement as it could be because leaving him (who might be a mislynchable pr or might be traitor) alive is a possibility for scum

but anyway it makes the softclaim less pro-scum than it otherwise might be

I would also consider that traitor wouldn't know how many prs there are, and it probably? only stops him from getting lynched if scum picked 0 mods

[Performer]

Still waiting on enigma replies, he's lurked hard today. Mod can we get deadline extension or deadline pause until a replacement?

[Irrelephant11]

but anyway it makes the softclaim less pro-scum than it otherwise might beI would also consider that traitor wouldn't know how many prs there are, and it probably? only stops him from getting lynched if scum picked 0 mods

these are really good points