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can you explain why you think this is a thing?
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BuJ you say I have been scummy at times, but you have not called me out on it once or barely interacted with me.
You didn't even react when I voted you.
I'm just getting caught scum Vibes now, and you trying to sow the seeds of confusion
You speculate about me fakeclaiming, And shade me to the others but you're avoiding me completely feels like.-
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@skitter what part of it aren't you following? Or how can I help..?
A quick summary I think would be
ruru: the worst's soft PR claim is less scummy in retrospect given how much information he wouldn't have had as traitor, making it riskier to do something like that as traitor
me: I don't think it's as risky as you say it is, but this is at least somewhat true
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off topic:
Baby, it’s a brighter dayIn post 2851, ruru wrote:
Are you just gonna stare at the wall? What’s wrong
Today is Friday, come meet me
Wherever we go, I’ll make you feel better, let’s go together
In our lives
There will be much harder things than this
This might be the beginning
So today, let’s go far away
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Enigma upon your return - I want to see reads list and your thoughts on what's transpired.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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I don't think you're fakeclaiming. I was asked who would be scum if enigma flips town and in that scenario, if you or ruru do not die at night you would be a suspect. Because one of the VTs could actually be a TPR.In post 2854, Alonzo wrote:BuJ you say I have been scummy at times, but you have not called me out on it once or barely interacted with me.
You didn't even react when I voted you.
I'm just getting caught scum Vibes now, and you trying to sow the seeds of confusion
You speculate about me fakeclaiming, And shade me to the others but you're avoiding me completely feels like.
Earlier I hypo inno'd you. Unlike some people who accidentally or (maybe intentionally), I don't push my hypo innos.-
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Alonzo I did not yet, but I want to see what enigma days before going into it.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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Also for all this hypo inno talk, nobody should be heading into d3 not sorting/reevaluating even their trs. That raises all sorts of issues and is suspicious.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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This is outrageous. Nothing still from enigma in 24 hrs. That's a classic scum stall tactic if you ask me. Going to post my case , not waiting anymore. Enig and skit can go.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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In post 1741, skitter30 wrote:
this is an icky wagonIn post 1740, ofrhz wrote:Gamma Emerald (4): Creature, Bujaber, Alonzo, the worst (L-2)In post 1743, skitter30 wrote:the people i townread are: vex, ruru, enigma, creature
the people i don't are: buj, alonzo, tw, ge, ejjiIn post 1776, skitter30 wrote:why has this game stalled .... ?
i have like nothing new to say
sure, let's see what happens if i vote VOTE: alonzoIn post 1777, skitter30 wrote:i still think ejji's (irrel) slot is scumIn post 1982, skitter30 wrote:{creature}
{ruru}
{enigma, vex}
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{bujaber, alonzo, gamma, tw}
{you}
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i'm unhappy with that bujaber/alonzo/gamma/tw tier but i'm not entirely sure what to do about it
idk what else do you want me to talk about?In post 1984, skitter30 wrote:enigma is some combo of gut/tone/good timing of posts that i dont' think i can explain better + most of the below-null camp have been pushing him and like none of the above-null camp have been
tw used to be my biggest scumread so i'm making progress; still don't feel like i can confidentally townread him but it isn't nearly strong of a scumread as it has been previouslyIn post 2013, skitter30 wrote:i don't especially scumread bujaber, but i'm not particularly against wagoning him to see if that'll help move the game out of this complacent/stagnating state tbh; my alonzo vote didn't really accomplish anything
VOTE: bujaber
In post 1559, ofrhz wrote:
i mean in this vc gamma is dead, nm is dead, and a50 is dead (as is creature). everyone alive is either on town!gamma or scum!not_mafia
my best guess is one on not_mafia and one on gamma; i highly highly doubt both partners were off; if both partners were on i think tw is one of them
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In post 2277, Irrelephant11 wrote:Like why isn't this obvious? @anyone other than ruru, am I being dumb or is it just true that I made a good point and ruru is refusing to accept that?
you're kinda my highest priority to sort right now; i've been trying to since daystart of day2 but ejji flaked and so that didn't really work outIn post 2333, skitter30 wrote:does anyone have a strong read on irrel's slot either way?In post 2409, skitter30 wrote:i keep swinging to bujaber/irrel
mostly cuz i townread everyone else more
but i'm kinda ??? dubious and uncertain
This series of posts is strikingly like scum agenda. Hard defends enigma, uses the same easy-go-to reason to tr me too (tonally). Wanted tw/me, alonzo, buj, irrel dead at various points of ISO. The posts plain point to that - scum agenda. And what do you know, the ones she wants dead are alive (except for GE), and she’s jumped at the opportunity to kill buj.In post 2462, skitter30 wrote:wrt to enigma i'm kinda losing patience/motivation to keep fighting this
In post 2477, skitter30 wrote: Do u think me/enigma could be svs?
I have been p-edited; im much slower at typing on a phone than on a computer im realizingIn post 2689, skitter30 wrote:In post 2688, Performer wrote: Why would you object an enigma wagon??
enigma's posts just feel good tonallyIn post 2708, skitter30 wrote: so two scum in {enigma/performer/irrel/bujaber/vex}
going to go here i think for now
VOTE: bujaber
Compared to enigma’s ISO, buj is townier. Skitter interactions regarding and with enigma & buj, are bizarre too. Something I’ve been contemplating is why would scum buj vote enigma after I reanalyzed enigma’s scummy ISO with a strong push – that doesn’t make sense given the way buj has posted about enigma on other days. I think it’s enigma & skitter.
enigma said At this stage for scum:
Elephant prime candidate. Alonzo/Buj solid maybes.
Korina – buj & irrel, skitter – buj & who else??, buj – irrel & I if not enigma (I don’t think scum would be this bold to be stating sr on irrel & I of all people since irrel & his predec ejinami have been quite town in their interactions…in fact I think he’s saying this because he had me as a 3rd possibility largely due to my predec tw and irrel’s big case on buj).
After a bit of rereading ISOs, I find it very interesting that korina, skitter, and enigma don't sr one another strongly . In fact, I’ve seen multiple times they tr each other while being ok with other people being lynched.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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In post 2209, Enigma wrote:Like I feel there are two distinct blocs with different lynch preferences forming atm.
{Creature, skitter, Korina, ruru, me}
{Elephant, GE, BuJ, tw, Alonzo}
I TR most of the first bloc actually ... just leaving this thought here as I think it would be interesting to look at once we have more flips.In post 93, Enigma wrote:
Someone should replace out so NM can replace in so we can lynch himIn post 92, Almost50 wrote:In post 79, skitter30 wrote:@a50 why wagon sky?
Because it's fun.
And also bc it's good for the game.
Well, it's as good as any other wagon really, but my vote is already there and so is ruru's, so if you want to be our third I'd be obliged. (It's still be L-4 you know, and N_M isn't even in this game if it makes you feel any better)In post 1133, Enigma wrote:Btw, now that this game is over ... viewtopic.php?f=51&t=76766
This has kinda been in my mind the whole game, but couldn't say much as ongoing.
Skitter was one of my strongest TRs in that game, I even doc protected her because I thought she would be prime NK target ... alas she was scum
scum!skitter a force to be reckoned with, and was literally universally townread by everyone and won because town trusted her enough to hammer test her in MYLO
So I haven't really commented on skitter so much, that said I am kinda townreading skitter this game, but I don't trust her or my reads on her hahahha
Hence my earlier comment about I don't really know how to read her with confidenceIn post 2553, Enigma wrote:Still maybe worried about deep wolf skitter (non-goon fue to hypo inno), but suppose now I think the trick is to look out for apathy late game (from her scum PYP X/Y) .. if she is alive then/I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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what does this mean to you?In post 2866, Performer wrote:After a bit of rereading ISOs, I find it very interesting that korina, skitter, and enigma don't sr one another strongly . In fact, I’ve seen multiple times they tr each other while being ok with other people being lynched.-
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@skitter maybe I should have said “what are the odds BuJ PR claims at L-1?”
Probably not very high either way so meh
Agreed that Enigma might be scum, but proooobably not with Enigma based on how oddly and regularly she’s defending him? At least based on the fact that she’s apparently great at scum
@anyone who has me in their scum pile (skitter, BuJ, idk who else) can you please summarize the case? Even if it’s on my preds, I’d like to know what about their play was scummy-
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Hello responding from pg 106 over the next few hours, not having read subsequent pages.
Also, no more work travel for next 3 weeks (fingers crossed) so activity should be better
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Ruru claim I believe because I thinks she was crumbing it
I also don't think Alzono would fake claim rb, and regardless this is something that should be solvable before endgame if he is fake claiming (i.e. not dying).In post 2584, ruru wrote:massclaim today might seem mechanically stupid but I have good reasons for it
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1. How would I know Alzono is a tpr, and if I was scum why would I not just nk him? Alzono's early play, plus his predecessor's could hardly be called town. It is literally only after the my post above that I am shifting him from null/scum to town.In post 2682, Performer wrote:further explanation - basically he voted a tpr - alonzo, my slot (green), GE (flipped green), didn't have nm (red flip) as scumread from what I skimmed through. That's condemning .
This makes me really wonder about his ISO pattern - if this means irrel/eji & buj/antihero are actually town then, because right now I have buj as an sr. But I'm not super fond of associative hunting as Alonzo knows from that 1 newbie game...so it should be shelved for another day I guess.
2. Don't know if your slot is green
3. Yeh I can't read NM (or his lurker predecessors), sorry not a genius
If you read my ISO you would also notice that I have no idea why tw was tunnelling me and I'm still not really sure why. Isn't this something you are better placed to answer anywaysIn post 2681, Performer wrote:VOTE: enigmaSo I was trying to find in my ISO and enigma's after I replaced in, why tw tunneled him after I questioned him on that. No answer from him.
e.g.In post 1718, Enigma wrote:Duck, I can't really reply to you or really even engage in a discussion of well as most of your explanation is hardly clear. Like I went through your ISO to try and make a response but I really don't know how to respond to the below:
"gutscum"
"guarded feeling"
"pings scummy"
"worded funny"
Let me know if you want me to comment on anything specific.-
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