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Post Post #3950 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:25 pm

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Ok I think I’m right

N_M said LE has no gun - as much as we know this, it does _not_ say he checked LE last night

He is potentially reaction testing and may or may not have a result on one of you, the unchecked,
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Post Post #3951 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:17 pm

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Isn't that only helpful if Not_Mafia is town and doesn't die?
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Post Post #3952 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:30 pm

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When I say may or may not have a result - probably better to say “may or may not have a guilty on someone”

Given your lack of concern for this possibility I think you are town otherwise your scum partner would have said don’t jump in n_m might be messing with us

If N_m claims this to be true there might be a scenario where if a doc protected him and N_M had a guilty on Rogers (just an example) we can lynch Rogers safely
Scum kill doc
This verifies n_m but N_m checks 1 of Creature / akarin

The potential benefit is verified gun smith with a guilty and another result tomorrow
But it only works if a] N_M has a guilty and b] doc protected him

But obviously it could have a been a no kill

If we are lucky we get the last guilty, if not we have to really consider the scum doc scenario
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Post Post #3953 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:08 pm

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In post 3952, profii wrote:When I say may or may not have a result - probably better to say “may or may not have a guilty on someone”
This is the same as may or may not have a result. I still think what I asked is valid. Isn't this only helpful if Not_Mafia is town and doesn't die?
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Post Post #3954 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:31 pm

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If N_M doesn't die, how do we ever know he is town?

if he dies tonight, we know his results are trustable or not - we can go from there.

If he has a guilty and a doc protected him, I'd probably take a gamble on the guilty today. If I was gunsmith at this point and I was adamant Rogers was scum, Id guilty him to buy us another day.

If a doc protected him, it explains the no kill - given the slip yesterday it all adds up in my mind.

but if he doesn't have a guilty i'll just no lynch again
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Post Post #3955 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:58 am

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In post 3954, profii wrote:if he dies tonight, we know his results are trustable or not - we can go from there
We don't know his result from today.
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Post Post #3956 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:43 am

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I don't understand what doc you think we can possibly have.
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Post Post #3957 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:46 am

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A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it:
  • is Mafia-aligned
  • knows the identities of all of the Mafia team
  • identity is not known by the Mafia team, although they should know a Traitor exists
  • cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and (unless Bulletproof) is killed if shot
  • is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead
  • gives a "guilty" result to Cops, an
    "innocent" result to Gunsmiths
    , and a "Traitor" result to Role Cops
Most likely explanation for the no kill: Rogers is scum, 3rd scum is a traitor.
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Post Post #3958 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:20 am

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In post 3957, Akarin wrote:
A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it:
  • is Mafia-aligned
  • knows the identities of all of the Mafia team
  • identity is not known by the Mafia team, although they should know a Traitor exists
  • cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and (unless Bulletproof) is killed if shot
  • is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead
  • gives a "guilty" result to Cops, an
    "innocent" result to Gunsmiths
    , and a "Traitor" result to Role Cops
Most likely explanation for the no kill: Rogers is scum, 3rd scum is a traitor.
This is reasonable.
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Post Post #3959 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:25 am

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I'm not sure if it's worth saving Nauci time and lynching today, I think it is because I'd want to lynch the Rogers slot tomorrow too, and if I'm wrong it is game over either way. I don't know what to make of Not_Mafia or Profii's treatment of the whole thing, but I'm not sure it matters.
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Post Post #3960 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:27 am

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Mod Notescreature has been prodded and has (expired on 2018-10-19 13:00:00) to post game relevant content or I will begin seeking a replacement.

I am about to get my Lasik procedure but have provided instructions to my boyfriend for upkeep on this game for a few days with vote count updates and will check in occasionally when I can, just not today. The last VC still stands.
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Post Post #3961 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:34 am

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Why would you bother modding a game when you can shoot lasers from your eyes?
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #3962 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:37 am

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Good luck with your eyes.

If you can weaken them down to just laser pointers, could be fun for the cat.
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Post Post #3963 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:34 am

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I’d probably say a no lynch is the best course of action. Nothing has really changed since yesterday
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Post Post #3964 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:36 am

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In post 3957, Akarin wrote:
A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it:
  • is Mafia-aligned
  • knows the identities of all of the Mafia team
  • identity is not known by the Mafia team, although they should know a Traitor exists
  • cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and (unless Bulletproof) is killed if shot
  • is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead
  • gives a "guilty" result to Cops, an
    "innocent" result to Gunsmiths
    , and a "Traitor" result to Role Cops
Most likely explanation for the no kill: Rogers is scum, 3rd scum is a traitor.
Traitor feels townsided
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Post Post #3965 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:37 am

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This game is getting too painfully boring
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Post Post #3966 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:38 am

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I confess at some point I even forgot I was playing this game
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Post Post #3967 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:38 am

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In post 3963, profii wrote:I’d probably say a no lynch is the best course of action. Nothing has really changed since yesterday
There was a no kill during a night where one of the non-cleared players flaked. That's something.

Either way, why are we stretching the day out?

VOTE: Mister Rogers

Happy to change to no lynch if people would rather wait to roll the dice, but I don't see the point.
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Post Post #3968 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:16 pm

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In post 3967, Akarin wrote:Either way, why are we stretching the day out?
I keep hoping that Not_Mafia will give his result.

VOTE: no lynch
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Post Post #3969 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:40 pm

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As far as your vote, Akarin, it's probably better tomorrow than today. I know you said that your mind is made up either way, but who knows what can happen.
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Post Post #3970 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:23 pm

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I want the result

Uncleared Pr refusing to be clear is also something
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Post Post #3971 (ISO) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:28 am

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I think waiting on N_M is as anti-town as refusing to claim. He's made it clear he isn't going to be clear.

Apathy is skyrocketing.

VOTE: No Lynch
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Post Post #3972 (ISO) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:48 am

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How is allowing a PR to get away without giving a result less lynch worthy than choosing no lynch

Why is Rogers inactivity which _could_ be anything more lynchable than getting the result and just doing him tomorrow (potentially with another result or a flipped thus verified PR)

I get the game has stalled but still...
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Post Post #3973 (ISO) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:51 am

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Profii, what leverage do you think you have on Not_Mafia exactly? Do you want to lynch him today?
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Post Post #3974 (ISO) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:52 am

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Also, in the event scum is drunk or something and I'm the kill, my reasoning on Rogers isn't inactivity, it's that there was a no kill and we shouldn't have any protective roles left. The simplest explanation for that is that scum didn't submit the kill.
THAT
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