A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6


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Post Post #3800 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:47 am

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In post 3797, jjh927 wrote:
In post 3453, mastina wrote:So Nico is lying, and Porkens can back me up here.

I was told, "Nico is demanding your role; you have 48 hours to comply, or she becomes a triple voter for you."

She CAN'T have a result yet. I've allowed it, so she will get one, but she doesn't have one RIGHT NOW.

I'm not voting her though, because I am 100% positive she's just town fakeclaiming. This is PRECISELY the kind of stunt she'd pull.

Also, pizza is delicious.
Oh, whoops. I'd still like to hear from Porkens what the line was but I've accepted that that probably isn't happening anytime soon, so there's a chance that Mastina's word is all we have to go off of.

This is basically how the situation went:
- Nico scumreads Mastina
- Nico talks about it and gets argued against, starts calling the people arguing against her scum
- Nico claims rolecop, promises to scan Mastina
- Nico fakes a guilty and admits it less than a day later, claiming it was a reaction test after Mastina comes back with facts
- Nico gets result and claims tracker, goes back to blaming the people who were arguing with her are scum because they messed with her result somehow??
- Nico claims that she got Rolecop and Tracker confused.... somehow, despite the name of the role having the role in it.
- Nico, after dodging the question a few times, finally paraphrases her role and ability and it turns out she's a watcher too, but still tries to play the victim card

How is any of this even remotely town motivated?
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Post Post #3801 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:48 am

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In post 3780, Lady Angel wrote:
What I think actually happened is that Nico is a rolecop and is trying to bullshit her way through this because she got back the result that Mastina already claimed in-thread.
I'm still going to float this theory, it's the only way I can think of that this situation makes any degree of sense.
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Post Post #3802 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:49 am

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In post 3767, jjh927 wrote:I think she's a rolecop but she's trying as much nonsense as possible so that people go "She wouldn't do this as scum"
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Post Post #3803 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:53 am

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In post 3795, jjh927 wrote:Can you clarify that it was "no result" that you got on Mastina as opposed to "Mastina did not visit anyone"
Yes, it was.
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Post Post #3804 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:16 am

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A Story Revisited


Votecount 3.153:

Nicorobin (2): jjh927, Lady Angel
Mastina (2): Creature, Firebringer
jjh927 (1): Nicorobin
Vecna (1): Jingle
Northsidegal (1): Nero Cain
Aristophanes (1): Northsidegal
Chickadee (0):
Gamma Emerald (0):
Invisibility (0):
Porkens (0):
Varsoon (0):
KuroiXHF (0):
Lady Angel: (0):
Whemestar (0):
Skygazer (0):
Jingle (0):
Firebringer (0):
Creature (0):
Nero Cain (0):
The Meme Men (0):

Not Voting: Sora, Chickadee, Aristophanes, Mastina, Whemestar, KuroiXHF, Gamma Emerald, Porkens, Shiro, Vecna, Invisibility, Varsoon, Skygazer

With 20 alive it's 11 to lynch.

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Post Post #3805 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:42 am

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Prods going out.

Porken has been prodded.

I will check in at exactly midnight and prod anyone who hits the prod timer by then since there's a lot of people between 1-16 and 2-0
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Post Post #3806 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:43 am

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In post 3746, jjh927 wrote:Jailkeep only roleblocks.
Factually Incorrect.

Jailkeep prevents all actions taken by or targeting the target.

Mastina specifically wasn't Jailkept.
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Post Post #3807 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:46 am

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In post 3806, Jingle wrote:
In post 3746, jjh927 wrote:Jailkeep only roleblocks.
Factually Incorrect.

Jailkeep prevents all actions taken by or targeting the target.

Mastina specifically wasn't Jailkept.
In post 3453, mastina wrote:Also, pizza is delicious.
Don't tell me I'm wrong when I'm right

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jailkeeper

You are talking about a variant of a different name I didn't know about though
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Post Post #3808 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:48 am

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Weird, Alien used to be standard JK.
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Post Post #3809 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:48 am

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But yeah, if we're believing that NicoRobin got a no result, then someone day roleblocked NicoRobin. And if someone had the ability to do day roleblocks then why wouldn't they have done so on Mastina at the first opportunity
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Post Post #3810 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:01 am

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In post 3724, THE MEME MEN wrote:I thought the way Loud Doctors worked was that when you get visited you would know *who* visited you but not *what action was taken*

-rh
I was told specifically that I was visited by a doctor last night.
In post 3726, Vecna wrote:What benefit does town have to knowing JJH is deathproof? Or that there is a loud doctor that went and visited you? It only serves to illuminate to scum why their kill went tits up. Gives them mechanical info, if true.
The benefit to knowing there is a loud doctor is that we can setup spec around having a doctor without outing the doctor. I actually agree with you that JJ's deathproof claim was premature, but not because "rolefishing". If he is town and scum shot him last night, they now have no reason to shoot him again, meaning that portion of his role is now useless.

And any conversation about how a protective might or might not react to other claims is rolefishing. I'm not responding to questioning along those lines any more.
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Post Post #3811 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:48 am

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I refused and got triple voted
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Post Post #3812 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:50 am

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I'm taking that as confirmation that what mastina says is what Porkens recieved. NR, please ask RC the following question by PM:

"Does my role action resolve as two separate actions, or is it one individual one? Specifically, if I was roleblocked between mastina being acted upon and my receiving the result, would I get the normal result or a no result? If I was rolestopped between mastina being acted upon and my receiving the result, would I get the normal result or a no result?"
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Post Post #3813 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:52 am

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Role action should just be action. :facepalm:
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Post Post #3814 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:54 am

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In post 3811, Porkens wrote:I refused and got triple voted
What message did you get from RC detailing what the thing was
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Post Post #3815 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:28 am

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In post 3811, Porkens wrote:I refused and got triple voted
I want to know why you refused. Imo, I would not have, given that having a triple vote on you is worse.
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Post Post #3816 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:30 am

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He clearly doesn't want to reveal either to you or to anyone and a triple vote is not that bad
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Post Post #3817 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:37 am

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In post 3816, jjh927 wrote:He clearly doesn't want to reveal either to you or to anyone and a triple vote is not that bad
Oh, really? He disagrees with you, considering he freaked out about it and threatened to give out my role just because I had a triple vote on him.

Also, if he freaked out that badly because of the triple vote despite knowing it would happen if he refuses, then why did he refuse in the first place? That's what I want to know.
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Post Post #3818 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:42 am

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He didn't really freak though

Your role bullies people
Alisae would never have okayed this if e was reviewing as I believe was the original plan
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Post Post #3819 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:43 am

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oh noes! I have 4 hours till prod.

I don't really have a reason to believe or disbelieve Nico's claim. The only thing that slightly bothers me is that she's been tunneling Mastina all game and not push anyone else. Kind of makes me think this is SvS as opposed to Nico being scum w/out Mastina.

I'm also not fully caught up though.
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Post Post #3820 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:43 am

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For the record, Alisae did in fact pass the setup.
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Post Post #3821 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:44 am

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Wtf did e give up on the whole no bullying thing
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Post Post #3822 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:45 am

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Also
In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:19) This setup was, uh, not actually reviewed by anyone but me. I feel fairly confident in the quality of the game though.
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Post Post #3823 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:46 am

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Oh. That was presumably before e had reviewed it.

I had given em the roles and such and they didn't sign off until after that.
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Post Post #3824 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:48 am

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In post 3818, jjh927 wrote:He didn't really freak though

Your role bullies people
Alisae would never have okayed this if e was reviewing as I believe was the original plan
He did freak out. I could bring out the quotes that prove he did.

Also, I was asking him, not you.

Why are you answering for him?

I am feeling more and more confident in my scumreads being right the more you post......

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