Micro 824.2: Grand Idea Mafia (The Reroll) [Finish]
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AlrightGTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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So, how was Irrel recruited even though RC's rolecard said he can't recruit informed minorities, (like mafia)?
Well, I'm curious actually to know your thoughts but, was Irrel really an informed minority, or was Irrel effectively a SK, ergo, not truly an informed minority?
My logic was that Irrel was not actually an informed minority. Irrel was effectively a SK this game, and would be recruitable only because the SK isn't aware of anyone else on their side.
Had there been two mafia, Irrel wouldn't have been recruited, and it'd have failed.
Now, if DrDolittle was recruitable, and RCEnigma tried, I'd have followed the same logic as Irrel, and had the recruitment go through, only because DDR doesn't know if anyone else is on his side, ergo, he'd be uninformed minority, therefore, recruitable.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Korina TheyRecruiterThey
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I'm personally really happy cult won this game, but also really sad that this game ended.
I really enjoyed modding this.
I may run (in the near future) another GIM in the Mini Theme Queue, or I may just decide to take a break from modding (until CK9++/EISAL fill) and just play a game or two.
Or I may go on hiatus for a bit, I honestly have no clue.
This game was a blast, I'm glad most of you did stick around through the re-roll, and I'm glad we didn't have to reroll again XDGTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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It was smart from Irrelephant to try to lie to cover up the fact he was formerly mafia, by claiming that. It's also a plausible enough role to be found in the GIM thread that, well... it'd be believed.In post 804, Elsa Jay wrote:The elephant lied. Sad. But atleast I let the Lyncher win instead of having them get hung and losing with town.
Now I see why you guys were trying to lynch Nonny. But you never expected Suicidal Elsa to kill the Lynchers target instead!GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Korina TheyRecruiterThey
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And also, if Nonny was hanged, it'd come down to what RC decided to do next.
If he recruited Invis, that's instant endgame.
If not, you guys are put into mylo.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Also, @Nonny, I actually fully rerolled the game as well.
It's merely coincidence that a lyncher appeared twice, in addition to cult.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Yeah I see that now ;p really assumed at first it was just re-randomizing the roles so changed how i played day 1 vs later. Sorry I was super lazy this game. Glad i won in the end thoughIn post 808, Korina wrote:Also, @Nonny, I actually fully rerolled the game as well.
It's merely coincidence that a lyncher appeared twice, in addition to cult.*insert bad joke here*-
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Hard to wagon someone not in gameIn post 811, Akira wrote:Dunno if it was possible to form a wagon on RC... (Irreleph would've been hard)
Anyways fun game, I like the setup
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Korina TheyRecruiterThey
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I get why people would object, (I said that mafia couldn't be recruited), however, that requires them to actually know someone else is actually mafia too.
A single mafia is literally the equivalent of a SK, except we just didn't wanna call them SK for whatever reason.
Both (as only scum) can only win if they're the last person alive, and they only know that they need to kill everyone else.
How are they truly informed at that point, when their goals are literally the exact same thing?GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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VOTE: Radiant ;pIn post 813, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Hard to wagon someone not in gameIn post 811, Akira wrote:Dunno if it was possible to form a wagon on RC... (Irreleph would've been hard)
Anyways fun game, I like the setup
Thanks Korina!GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Is it though?In post 813, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Hard to wagon someone not in gameIn post 811, Akira wrote:Dunno if it was possible to form a wagon on RC... (Irreleph would've been hard)
Anyways fun game, I like the setup
Thanks Korina!
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Nah, you're easy to wagon, silly things like rolecards don't matterIn post 813, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Hard to wagon someone not in gameIn post 811, Akira wrote:Dunno if it was possible to form a wagon on RC... (Irreleph would've been hard)
Anyways fun game, I like the setup
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I agree, that makes sense. However the counter-argument would be that you simply need to follow the rules period. So a single mafia goon and an SK are equivalent, except the latter is recruitable and the former is not.In post 814, Korina wrote:I get why people would object, (I said that mafia couldn't be recruited), however, that requires them to actually know someone else is actually mafia too.
A single mafia is literally the equivalent of a SK, except we just didn't wanna call them SK for whatever reason.
Both (as only scum) can only win if they're the last person alive, and they only know that they need to kill everyone else.
How are they truly informed at that point, when their goals are literally the exact same thing?
I feel like it's the kind of decision I'd be happy to leave to a mod, especially in a game like GIM. In a different setting, I might not agree.|Town|-|6||2|
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Korina TheyRecruiterThey
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I can see where that argument comes from, however, my counter-counter-argument would be to have you prove that Irrel is actually an informed minority, not an uninformed minority, and therefore would be recruitable.In post 819, Akira wrote:
I agree, that makes sense. However the counter-argument would be that you simply need to follow the rules period. So a single mafia goon and an SK are equivalent, except the latter is recruitable and the former is not.In post 814, Korina wrote:I get why people would object, (I said that mafia couldn't be recruited), however, that requires them to actually know someone else is actually mafia too.
A single mafia is literally the equivalent of a SK, except we just didn't wanna call them SK for whatever reason.
Both (as only scum) can only win if they're the last person alive, and they only know that they need to kill everyone else.
How are they truly informed at that point, when their goals are literally the exact same thing?
I feel like it's the kind of decision I'd be happy to leave to a mod, especially in a game like GIM. In a different setting, I might not agree.
An uninformed minority is effectively town, except, not town. Basically third-party roles.
Informed minorities are mafia or cult, assuming they have another player.
The mafia aren't really all that informed if its just one player as the mafia.
I do agree, in a setup like GIM, it's whatever. Mafia isn't guaranteed to spawn, nor is any alignment.
In another setup, I would give it a bit more thought, but I'd probably let the recruitment go through regardless.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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I think it can go either way, honestly. Like I said, I don't have a problem with itIn post 820, Korina wrote:
I can see where that argument comes from, however, my counter-counter-argument would be to have you prove that Irrel is actually an informed minority, not an uninformed minority, and therefore would be recruitable.In post 819, Akira wrote:
I agree, that makes sense. However the counter-argument would be that you simply need to follow the rules period. So a single mafia goon and an SK are equivalent, except the latter is recruitable and the former is not.In post 814, Korina wrote:I get why people would object, (I said that mafia couldn't be recruited), however, that requires them to actually know someone else is actually mafia too.
A single mafia is literally the equivalent of a SK, except we just didn't wanna call them SK for whatever reason.
Both (as only scum) can only win if they're the last person alive, and they only know that they need to kill everyone else.
How are they truly informed at that point, when their goals are literally the exact same thing?
I feel like it's the kind of decision I'd be happy to leave to a mod, especially in a game like GIM. In a different setting, I might not agree.
An uninformed minority is effectively town, except, not town. Basically third-party roles.
Informed minorities are mafia or cult, assuming they have another player.
The mafia aren't really all that informed if its just one player as the mafia.
I do agree, in a setup like GIM, it's whatever. Mafia isn't guaranteed to spawn, nor is any alignment.
In another setup, I would give it a bit more thought, but I'd probably let the recruitment go through regardless.
Giving it more thought from a flavor point of view, I see no reason why a lonely goon wouldn't want to just join another minority if the opportunity arised.|Town|-|6||2|
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