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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:22 am

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In post 499, Chara wrote:Almost are you sure on Aubrey? i replaced him for Gamma. (though i think both are town)
"though i think both are town" is right.

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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:23 am

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That's why I said nothing when you switched

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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:25 am

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The thing is if we manage to have enough votes that the remaining votes don't matter we can seal the coalition already (similar to the world congress mechanic in civilization) and we can then learn if we have a 5 Town coalition or not. As long as the margin is small the hammer doesn't occur.

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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:25 am

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hey A50 who should i take out to heal you
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:26 am

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In post 502, Almost50 wrote:The thing is if we manage to have enough votes that the remaining votes don't matter we can seal the coalition already (similar to the world congress mechanic in civilization) and we can then learn if we have a 5 Town coalition or not. As long as the margin is small the hammer doesn't occur.
Hm, didn’t know this
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:27 am

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In post 503, Skygazer wrote:hey A50 who should i take out to heal you
no lunch, please

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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:28 am

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In post 504, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 502, Almost50 wrote:The thing is if we manage to have enough votes that the remaining votes don't matter we can seal the coalition already (similar to the world congress mechanic in civilization) and we can then learn if we have a 5 Town coalition or not. As long as the margin is small the hammer doesn't occur.
Hm, didn’t know this
Well it's nothing carved in stone, but how do you explain "hammer" relating to the coalition?

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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:28 am

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HURT: no lunch
HEAL: A50
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:29 am

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In post 506, Almost50 wrote:
In post 504, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 502, Almost50 wrote:The thing is if we manage to have enough votes that the remaining votes don't matter we can seal the coalition already (similar to the world congress mechanic in civilization) and we can then learn if we have a 5 Town coalition or not. As long as the margin is small the hammer doesn't occur.
Hm, didn’t know this
Well it's nothing carved in stone, but how do you explain "hammer" relating to the coalition?
Five people with five votes each is my guess
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:30 am

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hey no lunch who should i take out of my coalition to heal you?
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:32 am

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That wouldn't seal it if there are still votes available with someone else having 4 votes on them. I view it as an election. As long as the margin is not larger than the uncounted votes you can't declare a winner.

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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:34 am

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Almost mind double-checking with nsg on that? a majority lynch is still a lynch, even if there are enough no votes that somebody else could theoretically get more. i believe "hammering" the coalition would work the same way.
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:35 am

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oh and it's not 5 people with 5 votes each, either. it has to be 5 identical coalitions. that's the hammer condition.
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:36 am

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In post 512, Chara wrote:oh and it's not 5 people with 5 votes each, either. it has to be 5 identical coalitions. that's the hammer condition.
mod could you confirm/deny this?


that's why she's marking identical coalitions.
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:37 am

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In post 511, Chara wrote:Almost mind double-checking with nsg on that? a majority lynch is still a lynch, even if there are enough no votes that somebody else could theoretically get more. i believe "hammering" the coalition would work the same way.

Sure.

@Mod: How does the coalition "hammer" work? Is it the first 5 players to have 5 or more votes, or is it when remaining "no votes" cannot change the outcome, or is it when everyone has 5 players in their own ballot?

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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:38 am

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it's not the 5 players with the most votes, it's the coalition group with the most votes. my coalition would never stack with one that doesn't include Gamma for the purposes of a coalition hammer, no matter how many other players match.

pedit: it's none of those i believe. read the first run of this game.
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:39 am

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Actually she has been marking "full ballots". Whoever heals 5 names gets a red "1" next to their name.

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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:40 am

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In post 515, Chara wrote:it's not the 5 players with the most votes, it's the coalition group with the most votes. my coalition would never stack with one that doesn't include Gamma for the purposes of a coalition hammer, no matter how many other players match.

pedit: it's none of those i believe. read the first run of this game.
Link?

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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:41 am

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In post 1, northsidegal wrote:Players will be placed into your coalition in the chronological order of your votes, but I will mark identical 5-player Coalitions with superscripted numbers.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:42 am

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In post 516, Almost50 wrote:Actually she has been marking "full ballots". Whoever heals 5 names gets a red "1" next to their name.
there's only been one full ballot, hence only one valid "vote".

the majority coalition gets a superscript 1. the next-highest gets a 2, etc.
let me get the link.
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:44 am

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it's really important that we all understand how the coalition vote works. my bad on not realizing this wasn't clear earlier.
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:45 am

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Subject: Micro 803: The Coalition
northsidegal wrote:
Votecount 1.11
VoterCoalition
Wisdom
the worst
Myloninja13
Hiraki
Not_Mafia
Hiraki
1
the worst
Myloninja13
Wisdom
Not_Mafia
Hiraki
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1
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Wisdom
Hiraki
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NeenieKit
Wisdom
NeenieKit
Myloninja13
the worst
Hiraki
Myloninja13
Mathdino
Wisdom
Hiraki
Myloninja13
Invisibility
Mathdino
the worst
Ausuka
Wisdom
NeenieKit
Ausuka
Wisdom
Myloninja13
Mathdino
Ausuka
Invisibility
the worst
Wisdom
Invisibility
Hiraki
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here's an example votecount!
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:46 am

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oh shucks this explains so much of why I didn't understand A50's actions earlier lol
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:47 am

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In post 515, Chara wrote:it's not the 5 players with the most votes, it's the coalition group with the most votes. my coalition would never stack with one that doesn't include Gamma for the purposes of a coalition hammer, no matter how many other players match.

pedit: it's none of those i believe. read the first run of this game.
^^^ i thought it was this
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:50 am

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That’s really clunky in that case
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