how good is vonflare at laser tag [game over]

[Cobblerfone]

@chara: like your reads.

I do think dunnstral is town.

Not sure about invis. I think scum have day chat so they could in-theory scheduled a time to all come online, but they may not have realized it just because this game is so slow and dragging. I would suggest dunnstral unvote

[Chara]

i think scum should have realized it, depends on the activity of their members however.
but for me it's just really unlikely that all of invis and Dunn/Chick are town. that's still in line with my reads though so not sure what it tells me.

[Chickadee]

I don't have a reason to town read invisibility

[xyzzy]

Lavos (Ausuka's alt) is switching to playing with her primary account, so Lavos is now Ausuka. this isn't really much of a change for the rest of you but it is my solemn duty to let you know and then put multiple links to this post in the OP.

[Ausuka]

hi.

@Chara: Cobbler mostly has the same issue in that I want to trust him because he's like actively been gamesolving? but I don't think it's wise to trust somebody just because they've been gamesolving even if I want to because the vast majority of scum players are capable of doing gamesolving as in like providing reads on the majority of players. the issue with like firing a dart at a scummy player is that mafia are going to be insistent on manipulating that lynch onto a suspected townie, and they have a lot of influence votewise so they can make that happen.

idk if I entirely get the concept of scumreading someone because you were townreading them? like ofc some of town's townreads are going to be incorrect but don't quite see how that connects to all of them doing so?

if we take this to deadline I'll be able to put more time into this, had exams recently and have another tomorrow. for what it's worth I kind of get the feeling Alchemist is the right direction to go in but I get that a feeling isn't enough.

[Chara]

idk if I entirely get the concept of scumreading someone because you were townreading them? like ofc some of town's townreads are going to be incorrect but don't quite see how that connects to all of them doing so?

when Chick first said that i was under the impression she decided to reexamine all of her reads and found something with Majiffy. that she agreed that she essentially just flipped her read on purpose is something i don't really know what to do with.

[Dunnstral]

Hey Ausuka, the vote is between me and Invisibility today. Who are you going to vote?

[Dunnstral]

If you wanted to go for alchemist you should have voted him a week ago instead of sitting around doing nothing fyi

[Invisibility]

VOTE: dunnstral
scum pls dont quickhamer me

[Ausuka]

VOTE: Dunnstral

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Dunnstral

So you scumread Chikadee?

Can you talk about this read?

[Dunnstral]

Like don't think for a second that I'm going to let you naked vote then fade away after this

If you're voting me that means you must think chikadee is scum. You have to, there's really no other argument other than that you're just waiting to lose. Are you trying to win?

[Ausuka]

@chara: like your reads.

I do think dunnstral is town.

Not sure about invis. I think scum have day chat so they could in-theory scheduled a time to all come online, but they may not have realized it just because this game is so slow and dragging. I would suggest dunnstral unvote

I've given far more about my scumread of you than you have about your scumread of Invis. Your scumread is half baked and half assed and you have no excuse for accusing anyone else of not doing enough.

Yes, I'm definitely trying to lose. That's the only explanation that makes sense. It's not like here's something obvious that makes Chickadee suspicious that I have commented on very recently.

[Ausuka]

That was for Dunn not Cobbler pedit is dumb zzz

[Chickadee]

This game is slow as molasses

[Majiffy]

Bit presumptive about the anuses of ground-based rodents, don't you think?

[Irrelephant11]

I find it odd that there is no urgency in anyone's game... Like I feel like town should feel some urgency regarding the two lynchwagons, but I also feel like scum should feel urgency if one of the two wagons is on scum
But then again both wagons are at L-4 and it seems like scum could have coordinated a quickhammer by now so I do feel like I'm forced to assume one of these two players is scum, which isn't my favorite thing (Given I literally said these are two of the three players I super feel like I can't read)

[Majiffy]

Or both could be on scum

Or both could be on town and scum isn't in a rush to let town shoot themselves

A 4 vote quickhammer is hard to pull off and it's too high risk if they're both on town.

So, yeah, no point presuming this early.

[Irrelephant11]

"No point presuming this early"
I guess that's true but like how long do we sit and wait for scum to hammer before we're sure scum can't just hammer
It would be weird to me if both invis/dunnstral were scum because this play makes it very very likely one of them is getting lynched
I also don't really townread either one so I would be sorta surprised if this were tvt
Do you read it as tvt or svs?

[xyzzy]

votecount 3.06

2 players voting for Invisibility (Dunnstral, Chickadee)
2 players voting for Dunnstral (Invisibility, Ausuka)

7 players not voting (Irrelephant11, Chara, Not_Mafia, Alchemist21, Toranaga, Majiffy, Cobblerfone)

with 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

the current day will end in (expired on 2018-10-31 23:30:00).

mod notes: Toranaga has about another day to show up or be replaced.

[Ausuka]

"No point presuming this early"
I guess that's true but like how long do we sit and wait for scum to hammer before we're sure scum can't just hammer
It would be weird to me if both invis/dunnstral were scum because this play makes it very very likely one of them is getting lynched
I also don't really townread either one so I would be sorta surprised if this were tvt
Do you read it as tvt or svs?

I don't think we'll actually be sure, like, pretty much ever, and it's information we're going to have to do without.

[Invisibility]

scum can you pls qh ur partner

[Majiffy]

"No point presuming this early"
I guess that's true but like how long do we sit and wait for scum to hammer before we're sure scum can't just hammer
It would be weird to me if both invis/dunnstral were scum because this play makes it very very likely one of them is getting lynched
I also don't really townread either one so I would be sorta surprised if this were tvt
Do you read it as tvt or svs?

No idea I stopped paying any bit of attention weeks ago

[Cobblerfone]

I think dunnstral’s reaction is townie. I’m not sure a scum!dunnstral would think to fake his logic regarding ausuka and chikadee.

I’m more likely to vote invis but would prefer majiffy I think.

[Cobblerfone]

@chara, irrelephant: do you have the sneaking suspicion that ausuka is fake town that I do?