Yes. Let's do this and wait for NSG to tell us if we succeeded.
P.S. This -of course- doesn't mean we can't continue to post and converse until she does. Let's move on with the game as if the coalition had already failed until we get the confirmation.
1- I eat rope
2- Lynch Chara << The one that makes most sense for everyone to be content with the coalition choices if it includes scum, and regardless of whether the other is in or out of it
3-a If Chara is scum, then skitter is confirmed a townie and should lead the Town. She was guaranteed her place a long time ago yet she still cared whom to pick.
3-b If Chara flips town, then I'm a douchebag and I've just caused the town to lose
4- (only applicable if 3-a is true): Lynch MME, and if the game doesn't end go in this order: Aubrey/no lunch/Sky/Irrelephant
Basically if the coalition doesn't work I'm betting the game on skitter/Gamma being both Town.
If anyone has any remarks as to why someone doesn't make sense as scum with CHARA now is the town to say so. If someone thinks someone is more likely to be Chara's p IF Chara is scum, step forward and state your case.
If none of the above, then we can talk about other combinations assuming Chara is Town, but not before we've exhausted all possibilities of them being scum, because that's the most sensible assumption with almost everyone looking relaxed.
Why Aubrey above the rest? because he was comfortable dropping his place in the coalition in Gamma's favour. Unless Aubrey AND Gamma are the scum team I don't see how that works unless Aubrey is scum AND his p was already in the coalition.
I have other things to take care of, so I will keep one eye here and another elsewhere.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
on me being scum. if i'm not it doesn't work. you don't have a contingency for your read on me being wrong.
why in the hell didn't you just keep me out of the coalition?
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
also the first step is lynching you to "confirm" you, when basically everyone besides no lunch is townreading you. why is an intentional mislynch a step?
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
i went along with this in spite of concerns, that elephant has already said (it's doomed to fail) because i figured there's still good information in this, and i was confident you're town. everyone else also looked town. i couldn't think of a solution to that issue.
i'm not even mad you want to lynch me. it's disappointing, but i'm an adult. i'm mad that you're framing this as a plan. it boils down to "Chara is scum, here's what we do after it flips scum".
pedit: Almost being town doesn't lend any credibility to his plan.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
why isn't there a contingency for me being town? are you
that
sure?
no, "if Chara is town, next most likely scum is X".
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
You can offer your own scheme and we can discuss. No? Who should we lynch from the coalition if it fails? Why? Who is their likely partner? Let's all lay out cards on the table now and we will see how that goes.
In post 782, Almost50 wrote:2- Lynch Chara << The one that makes most sense for everyone to be content with the coalition choices if it includes scum, and regardless of whether the other is in or out of it
3-a If Chara is scum, then skitter is confirmed a townie and should lead the Town. She was guaranteed her place a long time ago yet she still cared whom to pick.
3-b If Chara flips town, then I'm a douchebag and I've just caused the town to lose
i'm not sure why you're going to scum!chara first
i'm also not sure why i'm conf!town if chara is scum
i'm aware that this is only if the coalition fails. which, maybe it won't.
but this being your plan is just. why not just boot me from the coalition and put Gamma in? that would have boosted your chances of the coalition going through by removing your
only
guess for widely-townread scum, which was all but guaranteed in this gamestate.
i mean it would still have been the wrong decision but it would have made more sense to me.
and i can't even call you scum for it because you want to lynch yourself first and i believe you'll go through with it.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
In post 792, Chara wrote:and i can't even call you scum for it because you want to lynch yourself first and i believe you'll go through with it.
yeah this
he's still town, i'm just kinda confused
i thought he was townreading you incredibly strongly, like as strongly as he's townreading me
that's partially why i've not been worrying too much of my paranoia of you, since he has more experience with you and can probably read you better and he seemed very confident you were town
In post 785, Chara wrote:
why in the hell didn't you just keep me out of the coalition?
1- Because then it would have been harder for me to gauge others behavior.
2- Because there was no way in hell to get you out of it in the first place. You already had 7 votes when I came in.
Make no mistake I still think you're Town with no less than 90% confidence, but you know me better than anyone. I don't go with my guts when I have a mechanical base to build on, so give me something that doesn't include the word "feel" and I will consider it.
You can offer your own scheme and we can discuss. No? Who should we lynch from the coalition if it fails? Why? Who is their likely partner? Let's all lay out cards on the table now and we will see how that goes.
i'll do it later, i recognize i'm not thinking entirely clearly here.
also i don't do "schemes", that's your thing. you know that. i was hoping for it.
in-post edit: the lady sitting next to me on the train just gave me a chocolate bar for absolutely no reason. i'm finding it hard to be mad now. let's talk i guess?
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
In post 786, Chara wrote:also the first step is lynching you to "confirm" you, when basically everyone besides no lunch is townreading you. why is an intentional mislynch a step?
Because if I switch it then I will become the first suspect anyway. I mean, let's assume I go "Let's lynch Chara". The natural response from most everyone would be "Why the sudden change?" and it will take me a whole lot of effort to explain. Now even assuming we did lynch you first and you flipped Town I'd be the second lynch anyway. I'm saving everyone the trouble of going in circles for the next 2 gamedays. You KNOW everybody will be paranoid of me if I don't lynch scum today, assuming the coalition does fail. And if people are being skeptical about me scum won't be shooting me either.
In post 785, Chara wrote:
why in the hell didn't you just keep me out of the coalition?
1- Because then it would have been harder for me to gauge others behavior.
2- Because there was no way in hell to get you out of it in the first place. You already had 7 votes when I came in.
Make no mistake I still think you're Town with no less than 90% confidence, but you know me better than anyone. I don't go with my guts when I have a mechanical base to build on, so give me something that doesn't include the word "feel" and I will consider it.
1 - i suppose.
2 - it wouldn't have been hard. skitter was trusting you to read me and elephant was suspicious of me. us four were basically the town core in terms of being townread/activity.
and you don't have a mechanical base because your plan fails apart after my townflip.
and you
know
how much my towngame relies on feelings. you're aware of that. i'd rather you mislynch me first so you know i'm town, and then you can put some trust my feelings like you do when we hydra.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
