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Post Post #4150 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:43 pm

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In post 4144, Jingle wrote:
In post 4134, Aristophanes wrote:Like Jingle, this is a seemingly huge overreation.
If jj ever uses his ability, his will be the only lynch I support on that day. No exceptions.

If you'd like to change my mind, give me a single scenario in which it is protown to have a portion of the playerlist unable to change their votes.
When scum are he major wagons?

JJ, does it freeze future votes too or are they still moveable after they vote?
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Post Post #4151 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:43 pm

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I don't think she's gonna hipshoot it though

We should attempt to reach a consensus. I am objectively going to be using ZA WARUDO when that timer runs out unless Mastina has gladiated by then.
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Post Post #4152 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:44 pm

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no, Jingle is too busy bitching about no one scumhunting and not pressuring anyone.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #4153 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:44 pm

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People who are voting at the time of the freeze are the only ones affected. In fact, if everyone unvotes just before I do it, then you'd all be unaffected. The only effect would be the prevention of abilities such as gladiates.
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Post Post #4154 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:45 pm

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In post 4147, Jingle wrote:How do you find scum in a game of mafia?
but I've been pushing my reads and giving my opinions on the game. I'm not the problem.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #4155 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:46 pm

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NSG does seem to be quite a popular wagon. That seems like a good place to start.
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Post Post #4156 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:46 pm

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In post 4153, jjh927 wrote:People who are voting at the time of the freeze are the only ones affected. In fact, if everyone unvotes just before I do it, then you'd all be unaffected. The only effect would be the prevention of abilities such as gladiates.
Right okay, exactly what I figured. How the hell is this antitown, especially if announced!?

Like, jjh is quite towny for suggesting its usage here
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Post Post #4157 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:47 pm

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In post 4150, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 4144, Jingle wrote:
In post 4134, Aristophanes wrote:Like Jingle, this is a seemingly huge overreation.
If jj ever uses his ability, his will be the only lynch I support on that day. No exceptions.

If you'd like to change my mind, give me a single scenario in which it is protown to have a portion of the playerlist unable to change their votes.
When scum are he major wagons?

JJ, does it freeze future votes too or are they still moveable after they vote?
So... What you're saying is that if we're already going to lynch scum, the role helps us to lynch the scum we're already going to lynch.

You see how that is literally 0 utility, right?

Compared to, we have 5 three vote wagons, he za waraji's and it becomes literally impossible to lynch. Compared to we run someone up and they claim a protown role, and JJ can paralyse. We no longer have a chance to lynch anyone else.
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Post Post #4158 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:47 pm

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In post 4154, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4147, Jingle wrote:How do you find scum in a game of mafia?
but I've been pushing my reads and giving my opinions on the game. I'm not the problem.
I agree. And if we had 10 more yous there wouldn't be an issue at all.
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Post Post #4159 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:49 pm

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Those uses do sound like scum claims but they aren't what's going to happen
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Post Post #4160 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:51 pm

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right but there's not and it takes more than me to do shit. Mastina needs to start pressuring ppl or if she's still sick or busy or w/e she needs to replace out.
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Post Post #4161 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:51 pm

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In post 4157, Jingle wrote:Compared to, we have 5 three vote wagons, he za waraji's and it becomes literally impossible to lynch. Compared to we run someone up and they claim a protown role, and JJ can paralyse. We no longer have a chance to lynch anyone else.
This is only scum utility if unannounced! They gave full intention to use it and are letting us unvote so this doesn't happen!

Neither of these are possible unless they didn't announce it, and there is no reason to use it this early, assuming its limited shot, for scum! It would be far more useful in lategame for the things you just mentioned to cripple the town. I fully support getting it out of the way now!
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Post Post #4162 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:54 pm

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It's bedtime for me now anyway
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Post Post #4163 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:55 pm

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I'm gonna case jjh now, independently of the "his role is literally only useful for scum" bit.
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Post Post #4164 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:58 pm

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Shit me I'm gonna wake up to something good


Jingle you've seen me play scum lmao
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Post Post #4165 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:02 pm

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jjh is town jingle is town nero is town

ari, u town?
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Post Post #4166 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:03 pm

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maybe im just drunk and want evryone to be town
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Post Post #4167 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:04 pm

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jjh when u use ur ability is it obvious that it was used by u
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Post Post #4168 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:05 pm

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In post 4118, Jingle wrote:VOTE: Jjh
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Post Post #4169 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:07 pm

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In post 4129, Jingle wrote:
In post 4125, Aristophanes wrote:I'm morecurious about the why, because this seems like a pretty decent ability for either faction, but scum abilities are usually far less visual than something like this!
There is literally 0 utility in his role from town. The correct play is to never ever use it.

There is crazy high scum utility in his role. Like: exactly what he's doing right now.
And yet no one is voting rn?
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Post Post #4170 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:07 pm

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In post 4165, Skygazer wrote:jjh is town jingle is town nero is town

ari, u town?
I'm definitely town. Are you town?

If we're all town then who isn't??

jjh vs jingle could be tvt with differing theories I guess.
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Post Post #4171 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:09 pm

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In post 4144, Jingle wrote:
In post 4134, Aristophanes wrote:Like Jingle, this is a seemingly huge overreation.
If jj ever uses his ability, his will be the only lynch I support on that day. No exceptions.

If you'd like to change my mind, give me a single scenario in which it is protown to have a portion of the playerlist unable to change their votes.
Here’s the thing: he gave a warning. That alone makes it more towny. Plus: it’s an RC Upick, so you really think this speculation of this being a pro-scum ability means jack shit?
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Post Post #4172 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:13 pm

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^^^ literally so this!

Thank you for articulating my thoughts properly, Gamma :)
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Post Post #4173 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:17 pm

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i mean i think the fact that we're all posting and trying to get things back on track (well maybe noy me im im just drunk and bored) is indicative that we're all probs town
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Post Post #4174 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:17 pm

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ari who are you scumreading

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