Overkill 1: Serenity/Firefly (GAME OVER)


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Post Post #3525 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:39 pm

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In post 3519, CheekyTeeky wrote:Gamma seems scummy btw.
Nice pseudo-OMGUS
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Post Post #3526 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:40 pm

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I think he's being an idiot atm. Tbf, I'm suffering a major case of the I-Don't-Give-A-Shits and I don't want to bother trying to make a horse drink.

And yeah, I think the last time we discussed anything in the mason PT was before he claimed, so...
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Post Post #3527 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:47 pm

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In post 3524, CheekyTeeky wrote:Jingle that seems logical. In my mind Venge = more likely town vs BG. Venge, like a vig can be positive utility for scum if they shoot town. There's a risk that the BG doesn't die tonight so I'd rather make sure this flips which could help us further decipher the workings of Chick's role. So while logically it makes sense to let the Venge kill and BG die somehow, we could end up killing town (possibly 2) and hoping scum don't have a workaround for the BG leaving scum in greater numbers. Then we would have to lynch the 3ps while scum kill us off each night so...I'd rather no venge shot and possibly a dead scum now.
If the venge is town and shoots town, no town can die overnight. So, instead of the towniest town player being shot, the least town town player gets shot. Chick gets another investigation result off, which we can use to sort the BG. Chick also pretty much can't die while Tails is alive, so it gets us additional investigations.
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Post Post #3528 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:48 pm

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In post 3525, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3519, CheekyTeeky wrote:Gamma seems scummy btw.
Nice pseudo-OMGUS
You forget I am a mason
I haven't bought that your Jingles mason partner for a while now but eh. I don't see the point of your post saying "VC is on the other page yawn" like are you accusing me of busy work?
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Post Post #3529 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:48 pm

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Okay, proof we have a PT at least. Incoming.
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Post Post #3530 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:51 pm

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In post 3528, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3525, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3519, CheekyTeeky wrote:Gamma seems scummy btw.
Nice pseudo-OMGUS
You forget I am a mason
I haven't bought that your Jingles mason partner for a while now but eh. I don't see the point of your post saying "VC is on the other page yawn" like are you accusing me of busy work?
More just challenging your laziness but hey that seems an apt description
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Post Post #3531 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:51 pm

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In post 3528, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3525, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3519, CheekyTeeky wrote:Gamma seems scummy btw.
Nice pseudo-OMGUS
You forget I am a mason
I haven't bought that your Jingles mason partner for a while now but eh. I don't see the point of your post saying "VC is on the other page yawn" like are you accusing me of busy work?
There's literally perfect flavour for it tho...
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Post Post #3532 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:51 pm

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Gamma, pass along the message from the PT.
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Post Post #3533 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:54 pm

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In post 3527, Jingle wrote:
In post 3524, CheekyTeeky wrote:Jingle that seems logical. In my mind Venge = more likely town vs BG. Venge, like a vig can be positive utility for scum if they shoot town. There's a risk that the BG doesn't die tonight so I'd rather make sure this flips which could help us further decipher the workings of Chick's role. So while logically it makes sense to let the Venge kill and BG die somehow, we could end up killing town (possibly 2) and hoping scum don't have a workaround for the BG leaving scum in greater numbers. Then we would have to lynch the 3ps while scum kill us off each night so...I'd rather no venge shot and possibly a dead scum now.
If the venge is town and shoots town, no town can die overnight. So, instead of the towniest town player being shot, the least town town player gets shot. Chick gets another investigation result off, which we can use to sort the BG. Chick also pretty much can't die while Tails is alive, so it gets us additional investigations.
So you're effectively hoping town will leash a possible scum BG at the expense of 2 town deaths? We have Elsa and possibly another doc if Tails mod talk about 1s protects alludes to what I think it does. There's enough protection and WIFOM to save Chick. If Tails does flip scum then there will be WIFOM and hopefully protection on RR also. I think there aren't really many obv towns that we'd be risking. Any other town deaths would only help solve the puzzle.
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Post Post #3534 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:54 pm

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The only time Jingle and Cheeky have been in a game together was mhsmith police academy mini theme. Jingle was scum there, and Cheeky was later replaced by punreader
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Post Post #3535 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:56 pm

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Functionally, we should be confirmed to have a PT now.

Either we're both town or we're both scum, but we come as a pair.
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Post Post #3536 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:57 pm

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In post 3530, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3528, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3525, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3519, CheekyTeeky wrote:Gamma seems scummy btw.
Nice pseudo-OMGUS
You forget I am a mason
I haven't bought that your Jingles mason partner for a while now but eh. I don't see the point of your post saying "VC is on the other page yawn" like are you accusing me of busy work?
More just challenging your laziness but hey that seems an apt description
:lol: ok whatevs
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Post Post #3537 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:58 pm

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Oh I don't even remember that.
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Post Post #3538 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:00 pm

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I checked our mutual threads.

FWIW, I was also the reviewer from Cheets UPick and the backup mod for Lynch the Wolves. That is the extent of our interaction, with the possible exception of TM because none of those show up in my egosearch.
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Post Post #3539 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:02 pm

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In post 9, NicoRobin wrote:I hereby declare that I shall die on the 2nd day of 2nd month in year 2022, so I'd get to be with Ace. <2
This, btw, kind of makes sense as a bg crumb.
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Post Post #3540 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:04 pm

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In post 3539, Jingle wrote:
In post 9, NicoRobin wrote:I hereby declare that I shall die on the 2nd day of 2nd month in year 2022, so I'd get to be with Ace. <2
This, btw, kind of makes sense as a bg crumb.
Funny that a BG can't spot a BG crumb
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Post Post #3541 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:10 pm

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In order for me to be protecting Tails because he's my scumpartner, he can't be HoB because that necessitates a 3 person team with me and Gamma. Which invalidates the "He crumbed scum" tell on him.

That argument is therefore above suspicion. Either I'm right or I genuinely believe that the crumb makes sense.
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Post Post #3542 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:14 pm

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votecountWith 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Tails (7):
Reasonably Rational (2914),Flicker (2952),Chara (3104),Gamma Emerald (3361),BuJaber (3482),Aristophanes (3491),CheekyTeeky (3511),
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Post Post #3543 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:17 pm

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I'm not thinking you're scum with Tails? Whilst you can see the crumb as possibly a BG crumb, I'm saying the BG should know more than anyone else if his predecessor crumbed in relation to his role. He's flat out denied a fe times that he has no idea what NR was doing.
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Post Post #3544 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:18 pm

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18 hours and 2 major wagons.

Kill me, I shoot Tails.
Kill Tails, well, I don't :P

Up to y'all :)
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Post Post #3545 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:27 pm

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That's kind of the point of crumbing. It doesn't make any sense until someone explains it to you.

For example, my mason crumb was that I was randomly determining townreads. My mason (at the time) was randomidget. That's not an easy link to point out unless someone explains it. My not putting Gamma in a reads list later was unfortunate, but it was literally because I couldn't think of a single reason to townread him and putting him anywhere else in the list would leave room for scum to cast doubt on the claim.

Nico's post first says she's going to die early, and then emphasizes 2. Meaning she probably intended to protect the second player slot, theworst. That became me.

I can definitely see how someone would miss that link, but the link does make sense as a bg crumb.

For bonus points, NR's first post references Ace, a character who
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Post Post #3546 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:29 pm

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In post 3545, Jingle wrote:That's kind of the point of crumbing. It doesn't make any sense until someone explains it to you.

For example, my mason crumb was that I was randomly determining townreads. My mason (at the time) was randomidget. That's not an easy link to point out unless someone explains it. My not putting Gamma in a reads list later was unfortunate, but it was literally because I couldn't think of a single reason to townread him and putting him anywhere else in the list would leave room for scum to cast doubt on the claim.

Nico's post first says she's going to die early, and then emphasizes 2. Meaning she probably intended to protect the second player slot, theworst. That became me.

I can definitely see how someone would miss that link, but the link does make sense as a bg crumb.

For bonus points, NR's first post references Ace, a character who
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Cooool, I missed that tidbit.

So 2s aren't HoB?
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Post Post #3547 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:29 pm

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Anyway, I'm bored again. Any protectives should go elsewhere tonight.

VOTE: Ari
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Post Post #3548 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:30 pm

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And if I'm Jane, who is Nico/Tails?
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Post Post #3549 (ISO) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:30 pm

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In post 3547, Jingle wrote:Anyway, I'm bored again. Any protectives should go elsewhere tonight.

VOTE: Ari
You were already on me, silly :P
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