Mini Normal 2040: Day 4

[Auro]

That's sheep.

[Elsa Jay]

This always happens when I'm sleeping or working. Sigh.

This is another reason I REALLY was trying to avoid NotMaf as a player until later, because it always derails any conversation. Honestly he's like me in that regard, I admit. But he's on a whole different level of that.

Almost: pretty please play nice with Dva. I'm trying to make a new friend here, and making her rep out because of a different play style is always sad.

Tac: consider my vote unofficially on you at L-1 while we try to stop debating about NotMaf for a second. I still persoannly think the scumchat thing could be a slip. I want you to try and prove me wrong. Or give me a Target that isnt currently Almost or NotMaf unless they really are your only 2 scum reads.

[Auro]

Tac already said he's not interested in lynching anyone outside A50/Not_Mafia. And that too, not because they're his top scumreads, just policy alone. I really wish we all agreed on a course of action there, and moved past that.

[Elsa Jay]

I dont mind if he only wants to lynch those 2. I mind that, on the off chance he's town, he's leaving us confused and basically with 2 policy lynches back to back. And scum wins if that happens..

If he's scum that point is null, but still...

[Not_Mafia]

Elsa let's wagon Fugu

[BrightEyedFish]

Tac already said he's not interested in lynching anyone outside A50/Not_Mafia. And that too, not because they're his top scumreads, just policy alone. I really wish we all agreed on a course of action there, and moved past that.

What course of action(s) do you suggest?
Are you not happy with tictac's L-2? Can you present a better option for a D1 lynch with the info we have now?

[Auro]

Right now the two wagons seem to be Not_Mafia and tictac. One's effectively a policy lynch, and the other (tictac) has two random votes, is weakly scumread by a few of us, and is A50/Not_Mafia's lynch target.

Ideal course of action IMO is to keep Not_Mafia as a compromise lynch, continue discussions - find out what A50/tictac/Not_Mafia think outside of that exchange, for starters.

I know I scumread tictac earlier, and still do - but I'm not okay with him possibly being hammered by A50. I find it hard to judge if the A50/Not_Mafia versus DVa/tictac argument is emotionally driven or if there are scum motivations. The info we have right now isn't easy to work off of either. If tictac/DVa's claims that A50/Not_Mafia surviving can derail town co-ordination and mess it up are true, then Not_Mafia is a better choice.

I'd love to hear opinions from other players on this as well. I found DVa more genuine in the exchange - hard to imagine her getting angry and threatening to replace out as scum motivated, so I'm townreading her for now. If it comes down to tictac and Not_Mafia, I'd choose the latter.

[ofrhz]

*Sigh* If you say so..

UNVOTE: DVa

But you do understand that (a) I don't trust you are Town yet

understandable lol but I don't think I'd lie about another player's ability as scum, because it'd be so easy to debunk.
DVa does have a completed scumgame on site, and if you're up for the legwork, I think it's a worthwhile read. She did try to manufacture emotion in that game, but it didn't come close to what was vomited out here.

[Auro]

I was her scum partner in a newbie game which just ended a few days ago, and I felt her "emotion" there was nowhere close to the kind here.

[ofrhz]

VOTE: Not Mafia

Honestly, DVa arguing 4 this is the only reason, I didn't replace out already.

If she does, I'm following.

I'd prefer A50 policy actually, but this has a wagon already.

Wat

You gave no indication of any frustration with NM's play before this

[ofrhz]

I was her scum partner in a newbie game which just ended a few days ago, and I felt her "emotion" there was nowhere close to the kind here.

Yeah that was the game I had in mind

[Auro]

Are you scumreading tictac? Do you think he's the best lynch candidate today, so far?

[ofrhz]

VOTE: tictac

DVa might be the dullest player of all time

....I feel like this is slightly towny for N_M tbh

pedit: He's nullscum, and I don't have any stronger scumreads, so yes, I'm fine with being on his wagon.

[Auro]

I feel like this is slightly towny for N_M tbh

How? The attack at DVa, or his tictac vote? O.o

[ofrhz]

I feel like this is slightly towny for N_M tbh

How? The attack at DVa, or his tictac vote? O.o

The vote

We both read DVa's AtE on the previous page, and ended up with the conclusion that she's probably town because of it. So the timing of N_M moving his vote off of DVa and onto a different wagon is a reasonable thought process to have and is therefore towny imo

[Clemency]

woah holy moly sorry for not being active i went to bed right after my last post and just got to the computer now
i skimmed through and saw some @me's can someone repeat them to me i'll read through carefully later

[Clemency]

ah right okay i should move my vote off tictac since i don't see him as any particular alignment
or actually idk there's nothing bad about early pressure

[Sashaddin]

I'd love to hear opinions from other players on this as well. I found DVa more genuine in the exchange - hard to imagine her getting angry and threatening to replace out as scum motivated, so I'm townreading her for now. If it comes down to tictac and Not_Mafia, I'd choose the latter.

After reading through that pile of animosity, this sentence reflects my point of view. I'd keep DVa over N_M for towny reasons.
Pulling back the random vote now.

UNVOTE: DVa

[Auro]

@ofrhz, I see you've modded a recent game where scum!NotMafia and town!A50 were lynched and killed in D1, N1.

I'm reading the game right now, but any thoughts you've to offer on the argument?

[Clemency]

what is this policy lynch stuff about btw can someone explain the reason there because i'm not seeing it

[Auro]

@ofrhz, I see you've modded a recent game where scum!NotMafia and town!A50 were lynched and killed in D1, N1.

I'm reading the game right now, but any thoughts you've to offer on the argument?

Nevermind, I guess he replaced into it and got lynched very soon after so it doesn't count.

[Elsa Jay]

Policy Lynch is an action that you take against a player who's style is a threat to town in a way you feel the town would be better without.

NotMaf being a choice for it is because of demeanor and huge style difference.

Welcome back, Clem.

[Almost50]

Dunno why ya don't L-1 me yerself, unless what ya actually wanted to to was quickhammer.

Because I can't state intent and force a claim from you. You know well that you will

not

claim unless someone has stated intent. Otherwise you will stall.

[Almost50]

You know, you could put him back at L-1 yourself

Read above

[Clemency]

i know what a policy lynch is i was asking why we needed one

i see why now though