Open 737: Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[Alonzo]

Someone wants you Alive ruru...

[ruru]

who did you rb?

[skitter30]

korina dying over me might mean that i'm pocketed tbh
that's a really freaking strange nk

[Alonzo]

I Rb'd Korina

[ruru]

I figured as much

[skitter30]

what day did we lynch bujaber? day3?

so we've had three nights of the bg not dying and no innos

ok i basically got to start all over again i guess because i'm quite befuddled

getting a little paranoid that i've been pocketed by ruru

it's prob just enigma tho

idk if we no-lynch here

[ruru]

okay here are my notes, I didn't want to post until you gave your result although I'm not sure it really makes a difference here

Enigma:

it makes perfect sense for enigma to shoot korina:
- alonzo rbs korina -> nk doesn't matter
- alonzo doesn't rb enigma -> he almost certainly rbs korina, korina is conftowned

Alonzo:

it makes sense for alonzo to shoot+"rb" korina because it's a plausible way to avoid giving an inno.

but, from scum.alonzo's perspective:
- he'd probably be the lynch today if there wasn't a bg and he was still alive
- he'd risk getting cced and instantly losing
- he would be a traitor with no mods, but he wouldn't know that, so he also has to deal with the possibility of there being multiple prs in {korina, ruru, skitter}
- he'd know korina isn't gc, possibly not tracker/rb if bujaber did the n2 kill, but skitter and I were both viable investigatives
- he'd risk getting shot by groupscum if the bujaber lynch didn't go through

so, there's basically no way alonzo is scum unless he just does things for the lulz

lynching alonzo is also mechanically -ev because we still have 50% ev if we mislynch anyone but him today (he would be mechanically conftown by the game not ending)

skitter:

- would probably have shot me by now
- or enigma last night, who was probably the most likely rb
- she's also out of her scum meta

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about me and alonzo being alive, I guess it's less notable than it looks:

if scum wanted to kill alonzo they would have to kill me n3 (-> 5:1 + 1 inno) and then kill alonzo n4 (-> 3:1 + 2 innos) and there's no chance to shoot the conftowns or get lucky and shoot alonzo's target or shoot strategically in all that so it would be the towniest VT vs. scum 1v1 on d5 even assuming they don't get lynched before that

nokilling to create some wifom about the pr claims seems like a plausible alternative especially for enigma who was probably going to get lynched if he shot in {me, skitter}

both of us have been defending enigma all game and a lot of dead players (gamma, tw/performer, frank/ejji/irrel before he started tunneling performer) are scumreading him so there's also that

[skitter30]

meh maybe not enigma, bujaber was pushing them quite hard?

idk

p-edit i didn't read that yet

[skitter30]

this game has been going on for two months holy shit

i get game-fatigue at the ~6 week mark

at least my vex read was right tho; happy i didn't get that wrong

still want to know why a50 died. the a50 and korina kills are both kinda ???? to me

[skitter30]

ok i think i'm going to just read that tomorrow and try to start sorting this out then since i'm kinda tired and i read that wall like four times and i'm not really processing it

[Alonzo]

Guess all I can do is one more roleblock and hope you aren't fakeclaiming bodyguard ruru.

Probably shoulda doubled down on Enigma last night.

Whos up for some rapid no lynch action?

[skitter30]

my gut says alonzo but my gut's been wrong like three times this game already so i prob shouldn't listen to it that much

[skitter30]

why'd you pick korina over enigma?

[Alonzo]

I kinda shared TW's opinion that alot of the VV iso was kinda hollow, just throwawy thoughts for the sake of throwaway thoughts. Coupled with the performer flip I thought I'd dig into it, as Korina wasn't as active and started to tell more like they did in 720 when they were scum.

[Alonzo]

Kinda silly in hindsight but it felt like a fresh lead at the time

[ruru]

my gut says alonzo but my gut's been wrong like three times this game already so i prob shouldn't listen to it that much

are you gut scumreading him for anything other than being alive?

[skitter30]

more not having had an observable/provable night action in five nights

(ie n1 was a50 who died that night; i don't remember what happened n2; n3 and n4 was performer; n5 was korina who also died that night)

you're more the fact that you're still alive and that korina got nk'd last night and not me

[skitter30]

like not having an nk for two nights and then korina points to something being very very very wrong

[Alonzo]

N2 enigma- scum kiled n3/4 performer IIRC

[Alonzo]

Whats your read on Enigma ruru?

you seemed happier to push Irrel/Performer wagons last coupe of days?

[skitter30]

N2 enigma- scum kiled n3/4 performer IIRC

ok so enigma def didn't nk n2. if he's scum that implies he's either traitor or

that scum!bujaber felt like he was less likely to get rb'd

than enigma i guess since there was a nk and enigma didn't do it

bolded: follow up there; see what bujaber/enigma/alonzo's reads at the end of day2 were

[Enigma]

Hi everyone

I need to parse everything a bit as im a bit lost and haven't really made sense of what has happened

[ruru]

alonzo do you have any meta case that you would definitively not gamethrow by fakeclaiming rb as scum here?

I really feel like scum trying to make the claim look bad with nokilling is more plausible than alonzo gamethrowing and if we can bop alonzo we can basically prove he didn't fakeclaim.

[ruru]

Whats your read on Enigma ruru?

you seemed happier to push Irrel/Performer wagons last coupe of days?

I mean I've been townreading everyone here but I have better reasons to tr you and skitter

and yes I expected the game to be over by now

[ruru]