Mini Normal 2040: Day 4

[Sashaddin]

@DVa: You've mentioned twice that I'm "tonally" off from before, If you want to tell me why (after this game) I would appreciate it, because I can't see what I'm doing differently here.

[DrDolittle]

vote count 1.06

Day 1, Vote Count 6

tictac

(4) : Clemency, BrightEyedFish, ofrhz, Not_Mafia

(L-2)

Not_Mafia

(2) : DVa, Elsa Jay

Auro

(1) : tictac

DVa

(0) :

Almost50

(0) :

Elsa Jay

(0) :

orfhz

(0) :

BrightEyedFish

(0) :

Clemency

(0) :

Sashaddin

(0) :

Not voting:

: Almost50, Auro, Sashaddin

with 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

day one will end with no lynch in (expired on 2018-11-09 19:00:00)

I will accept wacky, whimsical nicknames if you are clear about who it is
"Fugu". NOT OK
"Fugu is the fish guy". OK
"Fugu is the fish guy" if there are more than two avatars with fish. NOT OK

[Clemency]

alright hi hey hello i'm here and available hit me with your best shot

[Auro]

Strongest reads and reasoning, if you will.

[Clemency]

okay so first off after reading over things again i really don't like tictacs slot because of how he tried to supress the game and then subsequently bailed on his slot
you (auro) and elsa are the strongest townreads in my eyes just by default in how you're driving the game forward
dva is also coolio on my eyes for the same reasons but a bit less so
uh
who else is relevant in this game
um, almost50 is kinda null for me, i guess

[Clemency]

i know i essentially just said what town's probably been thinking but i don't really have any reads that stand out from the crowd atm

[Auro]

Auro -- know he's pretty competent scum; if anything I would have expected him to start powerscumming more by now if he was scum so his 'huh, how do I figure this out' disposition here seems townie for the moment.

On a side note, I did comment that my aggressive pushes were bad and could work against me, and that I should've refrained from trying to reason my tunneling/pushing too hard esp while being townread that strong.

Weirdly, I'm reciprocating the feel - your style here feels so different from that game!

[Auro]

@Mod: tictac moved his vote to Not_Mafia.

[BrightEyedFish]

@NM
Why fugu?

[Almost50]

I just assume he's talking about DoLittle every time. It's easier on my brain.

He said Fugu and What. That's 2 people.

[Elsa Jay]

Like I said. Easier on my brain.

[Almost50]

A50 have your reads moved at all?

My readlist sheet is a mess. I have red dots and green dots all over against most names. If I'm impartial (i.e. putting aside my gut) I would say Elsa is the towniest slot here. That said I know he is a cunning player and especially so as scum, so that worries me, but not too much (yet)

Not_Mafia has tonetold for me, but I understand if nobody else has seen it, because it's a minor thing he does that differentiates his scum!play from his town!play to me. I still won't say what it is bc it's the only way I can tell, and I would very much like to keep being able to read him in the future. (P.S. It sometimes slips me, and sometimes I take notice of it too late. This time I was lucky I saw it early into the game is all).

I

want to

TR you (ofrhz) but I really have no clue. You demonstrated you can play scum well enough and still appear town recently, so -aside from what I do want- you should be null.

Sasha is a town lean, but I can't explain that without going back to bring out quotes and describe my complicated thought process, and I really don't want to do the effort, so just a town lean there for now.

Despite the personality clash with DVa, I'm coming around to realize it would be suicidal for Scum to intimidate me this way on D1. If they didn't know me, that would have been a thing, but she does know me, so that makes her a town lean to me.

I keep going back and forth on Auro. The general feeling is this is town play, but I'm starting to get a bit paranoid (the skitter way) about each and every read I have, so I dunno.. null?

I'm still waiting on BEF to slip. He looked town enough before he did in that game, and I keep "eying" him too look for anything "fishy" ( ) but haven't noticed anything so far.

Clemency is a mystery to me. He feels like a cold-blooded assassin is some sense. He looks pretty calm, maintaining a poker-face all the time I can't get through. But I literally have no case against him.

Finally the tictac slot is vacant and I wanted a claim out of that to decide which way to go and evaluate the votes .. etc. That failed miserably I guess. Oh, one of the points against Auro is the unvote, but maybe it's because I wanted that claim that I feel disappointed in Auro?

[Almost50]

"Fugu is the fish guy" if there are more than two avatars with fish. NOT OK

In other words: Voting "Showtime" counts as a vote on "DrDolitte" unless there's someone with a "Scarface" avatar. Correct?

Yes. But I also have to know what "Showtime" is. Good thing I do in this case.

[Clemency]

Clemency is a mystery to me. He feels like a cold-blooded assassin is some sense. He looks pretty calm, maintaining a poker-face all the time I can't get through. But I literally have no case against him.

mind if i steal that for my signature wowee

[Auro]

Oh, one of the points against Auro is the unvote, but maybe it's because I wanted that claim that I feel disappointed in Auro?

Disappointed? I'll explain this a bit more.

I have no clue about your alignment. Tictac had 2 random votes + Not_Mafia's vote at that time. This means that there were only two who voted tictac because of a

scumread

on him at the time. I'd much rather town consensus force a claim out of a player over two rather weak scumreads and your desire for it (scumread or not).

Also, there was so little content to really develop useful reads on the rest of the players. Even though he was my 'top scumread' at the time, rushing a claim was something I wasn't comfortable with, especially right after that exchange.

The tictac slot is *now* vacant, yeah, I'll wait for the replacement to post before potentially casting my vote there again.

[Auro]

In fact, I actually think there's higher scum motivation (unless scum with tictac) in letting the ITH + Claim happen on tictac at that stage. If you were impartial to your own agenda at that time, wouldn't you agree?

[Almost50]

Clemency is a mystery to me. He feels like a cold-blooded assassin is some sense. He looks pretty calm, maintaining a poker-face all the time I can't get through. But I literally have no case against him.

mind if i steal that for my signature wowee

Be my guest

[Almost50]

In fact, I actually think there's higher scum motivation (unless scum with tictac) in letting the ITH + Claim happen on tictac at that stage. If you were impartial to your own agenda at that time, wouldn't you agree?

Didi it ever occur to you that I might be a lie-detector and and explicit claim is exactly what I would have wanted to verify?? Would you call that a scum-motivated thought?

I could come up with dozens of other motives. How about forcing a suspect to commit to a claim early on before they had a chance to gather more info about the setup? Is forcing "potential" scum to commit to a fake claim in a rash a scum-driven motive?

Shall I go on? I gave one mechanical potential reason and another non-mechanical reason. I believe I made my case none-the-less.

[Auro]

Wait, I meant higher scum motivation in keeping a vote on tictac versus unvoting at the time, I meant. Not that you wouldn't at all have town motivation in getting him to claim.

[DrDolittle]

Carmen replaces Tictac.

[Carmen]

Wow, looks like you all need some serious help this game. Your only real wagon is on town.

Luckily, I've got you covered.

[Carmen]

Otherwise he's borderline-posting, like avoiding total nullposts, but not giving content either.

Unfair. I posted around 21 hours ago, and much after that was a "Trebor" wagon I had no comment on, and an Overwatch discussion I also had no comment on. The rest of the posts started to appear from ~6 hours ago. I slept for a while and here I am now.

Have you played with people from different time-zones before?
Don't you think this accusation is *way* too early to make?

Awkward reaction here.

[Elsa Jay]

Listen, Sandiego, I REALLY hope you can do that.

Let's see your reads then.

[Carmen]

Chill out for a second and I'll tell you them, reading the thread first is usually important to having good reads. Pro tip for you there.

[Carmen]