Mini Normal 2040: Day 4

Clemency · Post Post #525 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:51 am

you seemed just as confident about elsa as me back then, what changed?

Clemency · Post Post #526 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:52 am

hey nice i keep getting page tops

mom look i'm on tv

ofrhz · Post Post #527 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:52 am

Auro what’s your take on the sitch

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #528 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:55 am

In post 525, Clemency wrote:you seemed just as confident about elsa as me back then, what changed?

I am as confident as I can be about you. Of course sometimes my reads are wrong but EJ isn't a read.

Clemency · Post Post #529 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:56 am

yeah, auro's been pretty quiet so far, i'd love to see some of your perspective

Clemency · Post Post #530 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:57 am

In post 528, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 525, Clemency wrote:you seemed just as confident about elsa as me back then, what changed?
I am as confident as I can be about you. Of course sometimes my reads are wrong but EJ isn't a read.

that's exactly what i wanted to hear

give me your reasoning
i understand that in your side of the story elsa isn't a read that you can't explain in any other way than "you just know", but what's your case against me?

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #531 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:01 am

Ok. I am going to try and put myself in EJ's shoes to explain her behavior after she was confscum.

She gets confirmed as scum and tries to think of a way out.
Of course the first step is to deny.

And then by her counterclaim she is trying to discredit me.

She thinks I'm playing bad for claiming so early but she does the same thing and isn't even under the pressure. It was still looking like I would be lynched since no one had switched their vote to EJ.

Why would she need to claim now?

I can understand it would make sense for her to claim once the votes started coming on her wagon.

Let's say I'm lying and I flip scum, there would be no need for her to claim and for town to lose a PR.

It's calculated and obvious.

Clemency · Post Post #532 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:02 am

there's good reason to claim daycop day 1
mainly the fact that you don't wanna die night 1

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #533 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:05 am

In post 530, Clemency wrote:
In post 528, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 525, Clemency wrote:you seemed just as confident about elsa as me back then, what changed?
I am as confident as I can be about you. Of course sometimes my reads are wrong but EJ isn't a read.
that's exactly what i wanted to hear

give me your reasoning
i understand that in your side of the story elsa isn't a read that you can't explain in any other way than "you just know", but what's your case against me?

I'll get to that once we get rid of EJ.

Clemency · Post Post #534 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:06 am

nah, you're gonna get to that now
stop trying to avoid the subject

Elsa Jay · Post Post #535 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:07 am

The fact your going this far up your ass is frankly almost impressive at this point, Fish.

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #536 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:14 am

In post 535, Elsa Jay wrote:The fact your going this far up your ass is frankly almost impressive at this point, Fish.

I could probably say the same about you.

Clemency · Post Post #537 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:15 am

if bef ignores my plea for explanation once more, i highly urge hammering

with intent, without intent, idc at this point

Auro · Post Post #538 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:15 am

I'm still kinda busy, I'm barely following posts - I'll post in a bit, sorry, don't hammer plz.

Auro · Post Post #539 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:18 am

@BEF: Since it seems likely ATM that you'll be lynched, you might as well give your thoughts on clem right now.

Elsa Jay · Post Post #540 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:25 am

This would turn out so much better if you just take out your Daycop claim out the picture.

Clemency · Post Post #541 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:26 am

In post 539, Auro wrote:@BEF: Since it seems likely ATM that you'll be lynched, you might as well give your thoughts on clem right now.

^
what's the point of hovering this mysterious case against me when we all know you're going to take the hit
oh right it's to try and come up with a reason not to lynch you here

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #542 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:28 am

In post 539, Auro wrote:@BEF: Since it seems likely ATM that you'll be lynched, you might as well give your thoughts on clem right now.

Clem's posts seem full of fluff without any honest commitment.
Examples:

In post 329, Clemency wrote:okay so first off after reading over things again i really don't like tictacs slot because of how he tried to supress the game and then subsequently bailed on his slot
you (auro) and elsa are the strongest townreads in my eyes just by default in how you're driving the game forward
dva is also coolio on my eyes for the same reasons but a bit less so
uh
who else is relevant in this game
um, almost50 is kinda null for me, i guess

In post 330, Clemency wrote:i know i essentially just said what town's probably been thinking but i don't really have any reads that stand out from the crowd atm

In post 405, Clemency wrote:hell, i'll hop on that and i wanna see more of how tictacs replacement is gonna play the slot so
VOTE: BrightEyedFish

Clem's wishy washy take on tictac irked me too. Then Clem just jumps on the newest wagon and voila, here we are.

In post 241, Clemency wrote:ah right okay i should move my vote off tictac since i don't see him as any particular alignment
or actually idk there's nothing bad about early pressure

In post 329, Clemency wrote:okay so first off after reading over things again i really don't like tictacs slot because of how he tried to supress the game and then subsequently bailed on his slot
you (auro) and elsa are the strongest townreads in my eyes just by default in how you're driving the game forward
dva is also coolio on my eyes for the same reasons but a bit less so
uh
who else is relevant in this game
um, almost50 is kinda null for me, i guess

In post 405, Clemency wrote:hell, i'll hop on that and i wanna see more of how tictacs replacement is gonna play the slot so
VOTE: BrightEyedFish

I get there isn't much here, but the way she just followed EJ (and by this time I knew her alignment) just pushed Clem straight into my scumpile.

Clemency · Post Post #543 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:33 am

alright those are all fair points i guess, i can see your narrative

Clemency · Post Post #544 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:34 am

i'm not gonna refute any of that since it's all true, the point was to just get you to drop your trading chip

Clemency · Post Post #545 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:35 am

if you do turn out town though, oh boy i've got some explaining to do

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #546 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:36 am

In post 545, Clemency wrote:if you do turn out town though, oh boy i've got some explaining to do

You can start now. There is no if.

Elsa Jay · Post Post #547 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:37 am

Correction: if he flips Daycop, explanation is needed. If he's a VT you don't have to do shit.

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #548 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:39 am

In post 547, Elsa Jay wrote:Correction: if he flips Daycop, explanation is needed. If he's a VT you don't have to do shit.

nah, (he's) gonna get to that now
stop trying to avoid the subject

Clemency · Post Post #549 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:40 am

In post 546, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 545, Clemency wrote:if you do turn out town though, oh boy i've got some explaining to do
You can start now. There is no if.

In post 548, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 547, Elsa Jay wrote:Correction: if he flips Daycop, explanation is needed. If he's a VT you don't have to do shit.
nah, (he's) gonna get to that now
stop trying to avoid the subject

stop trying to pretend like these are equivalent cases