Overkill 1: Serenity/Firefly (GAME OVER)


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Post Post #3775 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:47 am

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In post 3773, Chara wrote:it matters. i think it was right to not lynch Mala earlier even though i wanted to. if we can eliminate Elsa without using up a mislynch that's one more town-controlled kill for us.
i want town Elsa to know that removing himself from the game is better than being lynched, for town.

i'm not looking forward to rereading this game to see who defended/soft-defended Ethos slot besides me and Rational, but it's a good idea.
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Post Post #3776 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:48 am

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let's check Jaber.

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Post Post #3777 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:48 am

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In post 3746, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 3741, Reasonably Rational wrote:Oh.

Elsa Jay, target last night?
Tails, target last night?
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Honestly I might as well say fuck it and claim my full role finally. The real Simon hasnt come out yet and they healed Toog N1. I'm saying this since 3 scum are dead.

My real (and final claim) role is Ascetic 1-BP hider. I hid on Thor last night and lost my BP.

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Post Post #3778 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:49 am

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In post 3776, Chara wrote:let's check Jaber.

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Post Post #3779 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:49 am

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No massclaim yet. Didn't expect a double scumflip with none of our 'conf'town dying yesterday.

We near 100% want to hit the last HOB today, because we have the most information there.

I'd like to have us targeted to hopefully shed light on the method A50 is using to convey info to Chick.

Flicker is an objectively bad lynch and an only slightly better check, imo. Lemme grab the playerlist. I have some thinking to do.
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Post Post #3780 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:53 am

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What changed is Elsa no longer claims 3p and chara has been sounding townier with time.
My townread on you was closely related to those 2 players.
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Post Post #3781 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:54 am

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In post 3499, CheekyTeeky wrote:I thought McMenno claimed Mal.
In post 3510, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2985, McMenno wrote:the wagon on me is obviously a scum fabrication to
slander my name and take the head of a virtuous town player.
Could be reading to much into this but I thought it was a really weird statement unless he was trolling. Thought it might point to some kind of "captain" role idk.
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Post Post #3782 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:54 am

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In post 3779, Jingle wrote:No massclaim yet. Didn't expect a double scumflip with none of our 'conf'town dying yesterday.

We near 100% want to hit the last HOB today, because we have the most information there.

I'd like to have us targeted to hopefully shed light on the method A50 is using to convey info to Chick.

Flicker is an objectively bad lynch and an only slightly better check, imo. Lemme grab the playerlist. I have some thinking to do.
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Post Post #3783 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:00 am

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In post 3714, Chara wrote:i'm doubting Toog used his lightning rod again.
I did specify non-consecutive.
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Post Post #3784 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:06 am

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In post 3780, BuJaber wrote:What changed is Elsa no longer claims 3p and chara has been sounding townier with time.
My townread on you was closely related to those 2 players.
I never bought into your reasons for townreading us btw. I always tend to be very skeptical of one of X is scum theories. RC and Tora intensely dislike each other. I always thought that reading anything more into that was silly.

Anyway, Elsa not being doc, doesn’t change the fact that no town was killed last night. So, if you don’t think it was Chick/me/Jingle/Gamma who were protected than who? RR maybe? Because there is definitely a town doc in this setup or Toog would have likely been killed N1, like he thought, so I was 100% right about that.

Why? Because 0 kills N1 backed up Toog’s LR claim and Toog not dying makes 0 sense, without town doc. Not bg or jailkeep but straight up doc.
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Post Post #3785 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:15 am

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Gamma Emerald - Mason w/Jingle - Confirmed PT, cannot be HoB.
Jingle - Mason w/Gamma
Flicker - priest - Confirmed role D1
Chickadee - Thief
Malakittens - Lyncher
Toogeloo - Lightning Rod

RightKnight - Town Enabler
Elsa Jay - Ascetic 1X Bulletproof Hider
Tails - Bodyguard
BuJaber - softed town ability that fucks with Lyncher
Reasonably Rational - softed town something via role PM convo
CheekyTeeky - softed town something via role PM convo
Chara - softed town something via role PM convo?

TPFKAP - flipped HoB traitor
Aristophanes - flipped Jayne/vengeful town
Light Ethos - Flipped HoB #1
Thor665 - flipped SK


My first instinct is to just lynch tails because his interactions with Menno were terrible. The top six names are reasonably confirmed to not be the final HoB member. I don't see a world with all of this floating around and a scum LR who chooses to use his power on Night 1. A no result on EJ confirms that he's not HoB, but that's kind of a moot point rn anyway with the way things look for Tail's interactions. Presumably we're at 8v1v1v(Some grouping of the remaining 3).

My instincts say we should have Chick investigate town (me/Gamma) to give a baseline town result for the thief ability that we can compare to Tail's result, making that more useful for tomorrow. Assuming Mala is telling the truth, that might bring us down to 1 nontown KPN.
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Post Post #3786 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:17 am

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In post 3784, RightKnight wrote:Why? Because 0 kills N1 backed up Toog’s LR claim and Toog not dying makes 0 sense, without town doc. Not bg or jailkeep but straight up doc.
Not necessarily. The fact that Thor's NK target was stopped is more powerful evidence of a town protective since the Ethos flip.
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Post Post #3787 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:24 am

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Oh damn was going to lynch Thor today.

I'd check Bu/Flicker
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Post Post #3788 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:24 am

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In post 382, Skygazer wrote:i wanted to vote chicka but i feel like is town spewy
In post 10, Chickadee wrote:idk who I am
Sky blatantly scumslipped.
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Post Post #3789 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:26 am

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In post 3750, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 3749, Chara wrote:also in light of this let's never lynch Elsa. like Ari, Elsa can make the brave, noble sacrifice of suiciding to flip a scum. potentially.

pedit: ok, excellent.

Almost: so far, disappointed with the Overkill title. this game is severely lacking in blood. i'm going to assume this our fault and not yours.
Let's never lynch Elsa? Hider's do *nothing* to help flip scum. All she does is keep from getting shot herself. I don't understand your reasoning here, help me.

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Depends on which variant Elsa is
@Elsa, are you the weak variant of hider?
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Post Post #3790 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:28 am

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In post 3760, Chara wrote:the full-flavoured version of Ari's PM lacks the line about being a member of the crew. thoughts?

pedit: they aren't clear, Flicker. :P
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Flicker got that and was saying it was better to find scum than town rn
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Post Post #3791 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:29 am

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CT brought that up. Also, ~6 players posted something along the same lines, including me.
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Post Post #3792 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:29 am

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In post 3764, Flicker wrote:
In post 3760, Chara wrote:pedit: they aren't clear, Flicker. :P
They claimed masons, though (Zoe/Wash, more specifically). Are there plausible non-town/scum characters that comes to mind as masons in this universe for you?

Also, Jingle's one of my strong townreads at this point. I feel like checking him or Gamma is a waste when we could be looking for another of the scum/3P who seem to outnumber us.
We didn’t actually claim any flavor explicitly, pardon? All we’ve done is speculation.
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Post Post #3793 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:30 am

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that was @ math, btw.
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Post Post #3794 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:30 am

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In post 3786, Jingle wrote:
In post 3784, RightKnight wrote:Why? Because 0 kills N1 backed up Toog’s LR claim and Toog not dying makes 0 sense, without town doc. Not bg or jailkeep but straight up doc.
Not necessarily. The fact that Thor's NK target was stopped is more powerful evidence of a town protective since the Ethos flip.
I agree.

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Post Post #3795 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:30 am

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In post 3792, Gamma Emerald wrote:We didn’t actually claim any flavor explicitly, pardon? All we’ve done is speculation.
Goddammit, I'm Wash. Stop trying to take away my toys. :evil:
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Post Post #3796 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:31 am

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I’ve read over the conversation and I’ve submitted my action. I went with what I was originally thinking, noticing there was considerable suspicion from others as well.

I’ll let y’all know what I get.
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Post Post #3797 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:32 am

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In post 3793, Jingle wrote:that was @ math, btw.
Lol, that was my post. :lol:

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Post Post #3798 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:44 am

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In post 2198, McMenno wrote:and I would request cheekyteeky to stop spreading fake news about meor have their team shoot me tonight
In post 2985, McMenno wrote:hey, I'm also technically retired.
In post 2969, Aristophanes wrote:Wait when TF was McMenno a Wagon and why? XD

It seems I missed that!
the wagon on me is obviously a scum fabrication to slander my name and take the head of a virtuous town player.

now that I think about it, my vanity vote is better server VOTE: CheekyTeeky
McMeno and Cheeky unaligned or possible distancing?
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Post Post #3799 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:47 am

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In post 3789, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3750, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 3749, Chara wrote:also in light of this let's never lynch Elsa. like Ari, Elsa can make the brave, noble sacrifice of suiciding to flip a scum. potentially.

pedit: ok, excellent.

Almost: so far, disappointed with the Overkill title. this game is severely lacking in blood. i'm going to assume this our fault and not yours.
Let's never lynch Elsa? Hider's do *nothing* to help flip scum. All she does is keep from getting shot herself. I don't understand your reasoning here, help me.

-Cerb
Depends on which variant Elsa is
@Elsa, are you the weak variant of hider?
Don’t weak roles automatically die when they visit scum?
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