Overkill 1: Serenity/Firefly (GAME OVER)

[Gamma Emerald]

Hulu has Firefly, btw, iirc.

Well I’m not allowed Hulu on my phone until I get a job

[RightKnight]

So I just looked it up for kicks and Netflix has the Serenity movie
Would I be fine watching it without seeing the show first?

Hulu has Firefly, btw, iirc.

Youtube has several episodes for free.

[Malakittens]

Work hell. Just work hell.

If I ever get off this hell ride I am going to look for the last HoB scum

[Elsa Jay]

Didn't you claim Lyncher?

Not weak, btw. Also still at work for 2 hours brb.

[CheekyTeeky]

Jingle if you think Bu is Mal then do you think that Chicks clues are direct like do you think it means Tails is town too?

[Jingle]

I don't know.

That's why I wanted to be investigated. Because we don't have a frame of reference for what a town result looks like. We have a scum result and two question marks.

[Jingle]

So if Cheeky is to be believed, I should vote the crap out of McMenno.

No. They're poo regardless of our alignments. The way you just joined the wagon was poo.

"Oh hey! Let me just move off this McMenno wagon that I've been thinking is scum and join this new hotness. Based on stretching a weird post into something significant in an effort to hide how flimsy the wagon is."

Unless you were on McMenno because of pokemon demons, the jump here is super sketch.

I want BJ to explain this odds thing to me. I understand Chicky and me going back down to similar odds as McMenno. What I don't understand is how that makes me a stronger scum read than the guy he's been sitting on all day. Either his McMenno case is just as flimsy, or he has a BS in math.

Interesting posts, for your perusal.

[Gamma Emerald]

So...how did Elsa lose her BP?

[Flicker]

So...how did Elsa lose her BP?

He hid behind Thor last night.

[Elsa Jay]

Which I'm still sad about losing it btw.

[Jingle]

Also, in retrospect I believe that EJ's claim doesn't come from HoB, so I don't particularly care about sorting it today. That can of worms can wait til after the scum faction with one remaining member is dealt with.

[Jingle]

Gamma Emerald - Mason w/Jingle - Confirmed PT, cannot be HoB.
Jingle - Mason w/Gamma
Flicker - priest - Confirmed role D1
Chickadee - Thief
Malakittens - Lyncher
Toogeloo - Lightning Rod
Elsa Jay - Ascetic 1X Bulletproof Hider
BuJaber - softed town ability that fucks with Lyncher, possible Mal result from Chick

CheekyTeeky - softed town something via role PM convo (Probably not HoB because Menno Tunnel)
Reasonably Rational - softed town something via role PM convo (Maybe conftown from PM interactions, needs consideration, corroborating evidence. Probs not HoB.)

Chara - softed town something via role PM convo?
RightKnight - Town Enabler
Tails - Bodyguard

TPFKAP - flipped HoB traitor
Aristophanes - flipped Jayne/vengeful town
Light Ethos - Flipped HoB #1
Thor665 - flipped SK

So, reasonably I can only see Tails, ThePerpetualHydra, or maaaaaybe Chara as HoB. I don't particularly want to dig up associations to check to see if ToraNancyDrewBlade makes any sense as a partner. Blade's 'townspewing Chara' argument is good enough for me for now.

VOTE: Tails

Sometimes the simplest answer is the right one.

[RightKnight]

I hereby declare that I shall die on the 2nd day of 2nd month in year 2022, so I'd get to be with Ace. <2

I can’t help thinking this is a message signalling to the traitor.

Also, from the extremely limited knowledge I have of the characters, I really don’t see River as bg.

Tails, who did you bg last night?

I don’t know whether he’s HoB or not but I’m extremely skeptical of the bg claim.

[Jingle]

You, uh... Might just wanna catch up Chess Kitty. A lot of stuff like that has already been addressed. Particularly, the latter bits of RR's ISO make for interesting reading about Tails.

[Jingle]

Doc on Chick and this game is quickly approaching Solved status.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Tails
And if anyone accuses me of sheeping Jingle will tell you I was first to say Tails was Menno’s partner between us

[Elsa Jay]

Tbh I was worried about getting rid of the Nico slot since Chickadee said it COULD be Simon and I knew I was bullshitting about being Simon to draw the NK end of yesterday.

Wanted to reveal I was town doc today to draw NKs this night but

some people

wouldn't leave me alone.

[Jingle]

VOTE: Tails
And if anyone accuses me of sheeping Jingle will tell you I was first to say Tails was Menno’s partner between us

Is true. My official stance in the mason PT was "God I hope he manages to protect successfully so I don't have to give a shit." But GE brought it up and we agreed it was the likely scenario.

[RightKnight]

Gamma Emerald - Mason w/Jingle - Confirmed PT, cannot be HoB.
Jingle - Mason w/Gamma
Flicker - priest - Confirmed role D1
Chickadee - Thief
Malakittens - Lyncher
Toogeloo - Lightning Rod
Elsa Jay - Ascetic 1X Bulletproof Hider
BuJaber - softed town ability that fucks with Lyncher, possible Mal result from Chick

CheekyTeeky - softed town something via role PM convo (Probably not HoB because Menno Tunnel)
Reasonably Rational - softed town something via role PM convo (Maybe conftown from PM interactions, needs consideration, corroborating evidence. Probs not HoB.)

Chara - softed town something via role PM convo?
RightKnight - Town Enabler
Tails - Bodyguard

TPFKAP - flipped HoB traitor
Aristophanes - flipped Jayne/vengeful town
Light Ethos - Flipped HoB #1
Thor665 - flipped SK

So, reasonably I can only see Tails,

ThePerpetualHydra

, or maaaaaybe Chara as HoB. I don't particularly want to dig up associations to check to see if ToraNancyDrewBlade makes any sense as a partner. Blade's 'townspewing Chara' argument is good enough for me for now.

VOTE: Tails

Sometimes the simplest answer is the right one.

I can understand Tails but not me or Chara. My role doesn’t even make any sense with that. I’m assuming it’s connected to some character with a supportive helper role of some kind? Any ideas who we might be?

Oh and again, that was me. Lol. Math’s better at signing. Lmao @ “perpetual hydra”.

[Jingle]

You're in the pool because we can't confirm enabler without your flip. FWIW, I don't think you should finish claiming yet, because the WIFOM of whether you are or aren't a good kill/enabler/town is great for town regardless of whether you're town if there are multiple killing roles still in the game.

[Jingle]

Also, this won't stop bugging me, so I'm just gonna ask.

Buj, does your username have anything to do with the Dave the Barbarian? My gut says no, but I can't shake the thought.

[RightKnight]

I will admit it might not be river, but

the tone of the videos I got was very focused on river, and very focused on saving. Not hunting. Could be Simon. Still town.

And

there's a line in my role pm that says the hints are things that I am involved in somehow definitely make me think a crew of the Serenity.

Do you still think this Chick?

But I think bg claim is bogus.

If Tails, were to hardclaim Doc, then Jingle’s candidates for HoB need to be revamped.

I tried to google HoB but I couldn’t find very much.

I’m wondering if Chick might be River?

[RightKnight]

You're in the pool because we can't confirm enabler without your flip. FWIW, I don't think you should finish claiming yet, because the WIFOM of whether you are or aren't a good kill/enabler/town is great for town regardless of whether you're town if there are multiple killing roles still in the game.

No, my question is why the pool isn’t larger. I think the only claim that has been verified at all, is Chick. As we found out with Elsa, his doc claim was bs, so I’m not automatically accepting any of them, without some evidence. And if Bujaber is Mal, then who the hell is Mala in the story?

Any rate, I think RR is obvtown here, Chata, I’ve already explained. Don’t see HoB claiming town hider. Toog, mechanically confirmed by LR, I think. Your predecessor TW, seemed town and Sky at one point called him “obvscum”.

Tails could be scum and Chick possibly misconstrued the message?

[RightKnight]

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/1SsljIr

Maybe this explains it?

[CheekyTeeky]

Spoiler:

I don't wanna be aggressive, because if I'm aggressive I'll self vote and tell everyone to go fuck themselves because I don't wanna deal with any of your tunnels right now. I don't like playing with RC, I don't like being pushed for nothing scummy I did or because I'm being misinterpreted and I find your way of reading me through having me getting wagoned pretty annoying but I don't wanna be a dick so I'm not being one.

i wanna say this feels town

VOTE: the worst

obvscum

I don't know how I feel about agreeing with sky

am i that bad of a player? ):

bujaber's entrance feels town

thor showed up and is doing thor things so that's cool

rr wagon is eh but im not a fan of drixx posting

tora posting is still town

all my thoughts on mala this game, so I'm not accused of flip flopping:

VOTE: malakittens

there's no way you're both town

malakittens MQ thing is several sheeped opinions condensed in a scumpost

I'm not defending anyone, I'm just giving my thoughts on the game

I find the scumreads on elsa pretty odd and like the people doing so should know better

Do you view what I'm saying so far as expressing a scumread?

-Cerb

you wouldn't be questioning elsa if you weren't pinged by him, but I was talking about RC and malakittens. I like how both progressed with their posting and I like RC townreading mala after mala's big post about elsa that I also thought was towny.

I'm reading mala's ISO now and my thoughts about it remain the same as whatever I thought in real time. I don't like his start. I dislike #33 tonally but I have no patience to explain in any way why, it's just one of those things where the phrasing pings my radar. #89 felt to me like he was just copy/pasting stuff people said and making a scummy montage with it. and then I liked this:

It's an over dramatic serious response to a post that shouldn't even be taken super serious considering it's RC. I love RC, but he's a guy that plays off other people's reactions. Unless he's changed his playstyle in 2 years+.

Again, I don't see where someone who's been playing for over a year would blindly believe RC and think it's a real mason claim like off the bat. Then attack people for voting RC in a RVS stage.

I can't tell if you, Tora, are defending Elsa because you think elsa is a newbie that can't defend himself or it's motivated some other way.

the fact you say he's someone who didn't play with people who opened with fake claims. I wouldn't know how the site played back in 2017. I was on a leave during that time.

@elsa have you played with RC before?

cause I liked his thoughts about me here. it's a minor thing, he can be scum saying it for sure, but I backed off after this post.

I had the strong impression when people were pushing elsa, that scum had to be pushing elsa too cause he was so towny it made no sense that so many people were piling on him.

VOTE: malakittens

scummiest ISO in the game imo

lol okay so i dont like this whole preemptive defense thing

VOTE: toranaga

yeah lets do it, L-1 bb

VOTE: reasonably rational

VOTE: bujaber

876 is eh

tor + RC was tvt tho

nsg being prodded makes me want to vote nsg tbh

sorry work has been hectic

So skys reads make me think Chick, Bu, Tor aren't aligned with HoB. RR pretty much conf town. There are a lot of slots sky didn't comment on so I'm thinking we look there.

Removed internal spoiler tags from Toranaga's #560 to fix the quote tags (in order to avoid the VC script counting a vote on Toranga by mistake) ~ Almost50