Open 737: Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[Enigma]

Is MWNN brass?

[Alonzo]

skitter surely we are at the point now where ruru is unstoppable as scum amirite?

Like there is no conceivable way to justify a lynch on that slot?

[skitter30]

= I'd feel like I'd be more forgiving to newbies who don't really put forward reads or play unconventionally, while I'd expect less so from experienced players, but that's me

...we're gonna fight...

Let's not

this is the only time hws mentions or interacts with any of flipped scum

[skitter30]

Is MWNN brass?

yeah sorry, mwnn is a brassherald alt

[skitter30]

skitter surely we are at the point now where ruru is unstoppable as scum amirite?

Like there is no conceivable way to justify a lynch on that slot?

yeah i don't think it's her and i don't see myself voting for her like at all really

her scumgame would have had to change *a lot* for it to be her, and i don't think it's super likely with her playstyle

if it's her she can just win; she's probably the person i'd be the least peeved losing to (although i'd be annoyed for being that pocketed)

[ruru]

this is about the case where bujaber is lynched and there's one investigative above alonzo

i can't tell if this hypothetical is for scum!alonzo or town!alonzo

scum

[ruru]

How do you feel you've played in this one ruru?

what's this supposed to mean?

[skitter30]

this is about the case where bujaber isn't lynched and there's one investigative above alonzo

sorry i meant to highlight this one

[skitter30]

but the whole massclaim thing was my idea and I was widely townread so...

also my claim order ensured bujaber got lynched d3 and didn't get to fakeclaim so I was setting up this poe situation where my claim looks weird which is way harder than I'd have to try as scum

like I could literally just push massclaim because almost everyone seemed to agree, claim vt, bus bujaber, shoot alonzo, lynch irrel+performer, and the game would be over by now instead of 3:1

also as scum I would've shot you or lynched you by now

^^^^

@alonzo: basically why ruru is town; no reason to set up a situation where her claim looks weird; she can just avoid all of it by claiming vt

[Alonzo]

@ skit Knowing I'm town, and having to believe ruru, we just need to lynch one of you/enigma and RB the other?

There wont be a kill and then the survivor is lynched next day.

ASSUMING ruru is truthfull...(and me too obviously)(WHICH I AM!) ( YOU CAN METADIVE THAT< HAVE NEVER LIED ONSITE AS EITHER ALIGNMENT!)

Like I appreciate all the reading you are doing, but ruru is the relevant topic..

@ruru

I mean do you think you have done well/bad what where your high/lowlights in this one?

[skitter30]

also if alonzo is scum he'd have to be traitor, right? cuz if he were goon we'd have another pr claim

and traitor fake-claiming is even riskier than goon fake-claiming because he has no idea how many mods there are

incidentally in this game if he's scum he's traitor and so no mods were taken, but traitor!alonzo can't have known that day3; for all he knows scum took something like {daytalk, rolecop, JOAT}

so fake-claiming is really risky for traitor!alonzo because he doesn't even know how many mods there are

[skitter30]

@ skit Knowing I'm town, and having to believe ruru, we just need to lynch one of you/enigma and RB the other?

There wont be a kill and then the survivor is lynched next day.

well fo rme it's between you/enigma because i'm pretty sure ruru is just town

but for you yeah this is a fair pov if you're townreading that strongly too (are you?)

i'm pretty close to just wanting enigma

if i'm wrong that just loses the game overnight tho if you rb me

[skitter30]

logically it's just enigma

i don't really want to lynch enigma
but i can't really see myself laying down a vote for alonzo

[skitter30]

his iso is so townie tho :/

and i'm going to feel like an idiot voting town!enigma in lylo after deending him all game

i'll also feel really stupid not voting scum!enigma in lylo after defending him all game

[skitter30]

ruru is there a compelling reason to no-lynch today?

if not i think i'm just going to vote enigma

[Enigma]

also if alonzo is scum he'd have to be traitor, right? cuz if he were goon we'd have another pr claim

and traitor fake-claiming is even riskier than goon fake-claiming because he has no idea how many mods there are

incidentally in this game if he's scum he's traitor and so no mods were taken, but traitor!alonzo can't have known that day3; for all he knows scum took something like {daytalk, rolecop, JOAT}

so fake-claiming is really risky for traitor!alonzo because he doesn't even know how many mods there are

I was also thinking this and giving him town+
My one worry was that he was near the end of the claim order (iirc this was it): bujaber > irrel > enigma > performer > korina > alonzo > ruru > skitter
Like that was a risk, but everyone before him claimed vt.

--

*sigh*

I feel like its a trap but Im town!roleblocker

I blocked A50 N1 and Enigma last night

What did you mean by trap?

[Alonzo]

I'm literally at if ruru is scum they earned it myself....

pedit

I get a mixed bag of reads from rurus slot, but feel powerless to push her even if I believed it.

So I good to Lynch Enig yeah, If you are the JOAT or ruru is bluffing then whatevs, cos we could read into this all month and still not be any closer to solving...

[skitter30]

I blocked performer again

This is outside of performers scum range as I understand it.
Pretty sure it's Korina at this point.

VOTE: Performer

This is against my better nature. I think Performers put in a good shift, but the evidence is what it is.

@alonzo can you explain why you voted performer here?

[Enigma]

..... someone is pushing a mislynch on me and im not sure who it is sigh

[Alonzo]

also if alonzo is scum he'd have to be traitor, right? cuz if he were goon we'd have another pr claim

and traitor fake-claiming is even riskier than goon fake-claiming because he has no idea how many mods there are

incidentally in this game if he's scum he's traitor and so no mods were taken, but traitor!alonzo can't have known that day3; for all he knows scum took something like {daytalk, rolecop, JOAT}

so fake-claiming is really risky for traitor!alonzo because he doesn't even know how many mods there are

I was also thinking this and giving him town+
My one worry was that he was near the end of the claim order (iirc this was it): bujaber > irrel > enigma > performer > korina > alonzo > ruru > skitter
Like that was a risk, but everyone before him claimed vt.

--

*sigh*

I feel like its a trap but Im town!roleblocker

I blocked A50 N1 and Enigma last night

What did you mean by trap?

I thought I was gonna be the NK, but actually scum had bigger plans for me it seems...

[skitter30]

yeah i'm just taking ruru out of it

[Alonzo]

I blocked performer again

This is outside of performers scum range as I understand it.
Pretty sure it's Korina at this point.

VOTE: Performer

This is against my better nature. I think Performers put in a good shift, but the evidence is what it is.

@alonzo can you explain why you voted performer here?

Cos the Evidence was stronger than my gut. I'd RB'd him 2 nights in a row with no NK's.

Why Did you vote Irrel out of sequence?

[skitter30]

uh i don't understand the question, what do u mean?

[Alonzo]

I had blocked Performer and there was no NK, but it was Irrel who ate rope.

IIRCcorrectly wagon went ruru skitter enigma then me or performer to close out

[skitter30]

oh you meant out of sequence as in: voted him although you had rb'd performer the night before

cuz i was scumreading him more than performer and a rb guilty isn't a hard guilty
also his ate got to me and i'm pretty sure i wasn't actually on the lynch iirc