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Post Post #3400 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:41 pm

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In post 3359, Alonzo wrote:@ skit Knowing I'm town, and having to believe ruru, we just need to lynch one of you/enigma and RB the other?

There wont be a kill and then the survivor is lynched next day.

ASSUMING ruru is truthfull...(and me too obviously)(WHICH I AM!) ( YOU CAN METADIVE THAT< HAVE NEVER LIED ONSITE AS EITHER ALIGNMENT!)

Like I appreciate all the reading you are doing, but ruru is the relevant topic..

@ruru

I mean do you think you have done well/bad what where your high/lowlights in this one?
I don't think it can be called doing well if it's xylo and I don't really feel the game is conclusively solved

like I'm back and forth and I don't ever have a stronger scumread than like 65% and I don't like to be in a position where I can lose to randomness like that

I feel like we're going to lose, when I want to vote enigma I feel like we're going to lose to you, when I want to vote you I feel like we're going to lose to skitter, etc. etc. (like if you're town we probably win even if we mislynch today but I'm not 100% on that either)

I'm even a bit paranoid of skitter by poe / the game not making sense points to me missing something even though I believe in post count like more than anything here

I also feel like I did my best and the setup we randed is ridiculously scumsided and I got maximum value out of my role instead of playing it the obvious way and there were a lot of scummy townies and apathy and idk this is super defeatist maybe we just lynch enigma and he flips scum but I don't feel like I deserve to win anyway.

in hindsight I should've went allin on bujaber d2 when people didn't want to lynch him because it just so happens we'd have an extra inno or whatever if I did but I don't have enough experience to have that much trust in my own read when nobody else seems too interested except gamma
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Post Post #3401 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:46 pm

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oh and I really don't think nolynching accomplishes anything because scum's optimal play is to nokill regardless

unless we think town ev is actually sub-50 in which case I guess we should accept the draw
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Post Post #3402 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:46 pm

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I don't think town ev is actually sub-50 I just feel awful about every lynch
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Post Post #3403 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:48 pm

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Sounds Like we need to go Skitter then Enigma.

I'd much rather get stabbed in the face than the back also.

And if this is scum you just twisting the knife on skitter then bravo...!
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Post Post #3404 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:51 pm

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no i really just don't want this to be a thing because i'm proud of my streak

and i'm just a little peeved that you'd prefer to go me -> enigma over enigma -> me
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Post Post #3405 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:52 pm

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I don't see the point in lynching skitter really

if we lynch scum today I don't have to deal with the possibility of you getting paranoid and rbing me instead of the remaining scum
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Post Post #3406 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:53 pm

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so, we should lynch scummiest first and then rb second scummiest if you're town
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Post Post #3407 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:55 pm

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i'm pretty sure on town!alonzo from how he reluctant he became when i voted

it's more paranoia than scum!him needs to have here; he could have just voted and waited for me to convince you or whatever
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Post Post #3408 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:56 pm

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I think the lynching you plan probably comes from town too (even though I don't really like it)

whatever intent to vote enigma I guess
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Post Post #3409 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:56 pm

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like if he's scum he doesn't actually care if it's me or enigma because he just won

as i typed htis i realized he doesn't because you're a bg :facepalm:

scum!alonzo doesn't just win here if we lynch, the night happens no matter what if we don't lynch scum today i'm pretty sure
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Post Post #3410 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:57 pm

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like proposing to me seems more stemming from paranoia imo than trying to get in mislynches
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Post Post #3411 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:58 pm

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nm i'm forgetting what a bg :facepalm:
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Post Post #3412 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:08 pm

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im dancing to rurus beat
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Post Post #3413 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:14 pm

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Ugh... Its just Im not a great dancer...

I think we gotta go Skitter then Enigma..
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Post Post #3414 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:17 pm

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In post 3404, skitter30 wrote:no i really just don't want this to be a thing because i'm proud of my streak

and i'm just a little peeved that you'd prefer to go me -> enigma over enigma -> me

At no point in our last two months gaming together did I figure you thought along these lines...
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Post Post #3415 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:19 pm

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In post 3413, Alonzo wrote:Ugh... Its just Im not a great dancer...

I think we gotta go Skitter then Enigma..
why?
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Post Post #3416 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:20 pm

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And thinking along these lines...I could take Enigmas shitty 'I CBA to Iso the shit outta this game' post at face value' as gospel.

He knows If he's the lynch today Town still have a chance of winning... Hmmmm
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Post Post #3417 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:21 pm

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uh it's not like this is something i'm in the context of to worry about most of the time
i very rarely have to deal with serious attempts to mislynch me
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Post Post #3418 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:21 pm

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In post 3413, Alonzo wrote:Ugh... Its just Im not a great dancer...

I think we gotta go Skitter then Enigma..
and why this order?

from your pov the order doesn't actually matter
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Post Post #3419 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:27 pm

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In post 3415, ruru wrote:
In post 3413, Alonzo wrote:Ugh... Its just Im not a great dancer...

I think we gotta go Skitter then Enigma..
why?
I dont wanna reply with 'why not?', but essentially I'm asking what difference it makes?

Skitter has already said she was down with it, and has now 180'd because off some newfound ego streak.

Iv been in various games with siteer for probably 2 months now, and in none of the others has she even eluded to the fact that theres any ego at all in her pay, If anything she was really humble to a fault.

This sudden change of heart is ringing the alarm bells for me.
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Post Post #3420 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:34 pm

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VOTE: SKITTER
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Post Post #3421 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:39 pm

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uh i don't think i had a change of heart; i very clearly said i didn't want that when you first proposed it
explain where i 180'd

was anyone seriously proposing mislynching me in endgame in any of those games . no, i wasn't, so why is that remotely relevant to this scenario

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^^^^ the last one is basically where im at
i don't want it to happen because i'm proud of my streak
there isn't a good reason for it to happen from your pov as far as i can tell
i also feel like i've solved the game so i'm not sure it really matters but that doesn't mean i have to like it
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Post Post #3422 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:40 pm

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like i never mentioned it before in a game with you because it wasn't relevant

i don't understand why your'e calling that a change of heart or why that's scummy
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Post Post #3423 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:40 pm

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I know this is a hard decision for you ruru, but its the asolute must do for town! us.

Its within skitters range to pocket either one of us, Sounds like you look up to skitter a bit, but I have stated before here inthis game that if skitter is scum she got by by hiding in the wake of your play, and the fact that you admit it could still be skitter by Poe means that you know its a possibility.

If the roles we have were not in play sure we would have to think it out, but with our roles we can mechanically solve this without the need for any margin of error on any call we make.
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Post Post #3424 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:41 pm

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In post 3423, Alonzo wrote:but its the asolute must do for town! us.
explain

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