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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:02 pm

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In post 376, FLUFFY WHITE SHEEP wrote:
In post 370, Shoshin wrote:
In post 352, FLUFFY WHITE SHEEP wrote:I feel like that's already been made very clear.
It's not clear why you're voting me. Please explain.

You shouldn't vote me because I'm town and because that fact is obvious to anyone who knows anything about how I play (e.g. Irrelephant).
I'm voting you because I scumread you. I've explained why I scumread you?
Do you feel like you would not be able to grow from your play as scum and attempt to better next time?
Could someone please link me to some town and scum games of Shoshin's? I want to see how easily she could correct her play.
Where did you explain why you scumread me? Can you please elaborate because I don't understand.

It's not that I'm incapable of playing better as mafia. It's that I simply can't maintain any degree of effort as scum for longer than a couple pages. I hate being scum, and that shows up very quickly in the way I'm treating the game.
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:04 pm

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I'm not feeling town Irrelephant yet, so we'll see about that.
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:06 pm

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I'm not sold on Mister Relly yet either
What's got you townreading teacher?
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:28 pm

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In post 400, Shoshin wrote:It's not that I'm incapable of playing better as mafia. It's that I simply can't maintain any degree of effort as scum for longer than a couple pages. I hate being scum, and that shows up very quickly in the way I'm treating the game.
do you want to link an example game of this?
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:44 pm

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Prodge til tonight Eastern. I have been tracking on mobile, but have been unable to analyze due to class work. Im now much more of a weekend than an inweek player. My gutshot reactions from mobile skimming posts as they come in:

1. TW gets my thanks and appreciation for the Sho meta links. I really appreciate it. I was already inclined to defer to the several metareads, but my click through seemed to confirm that.
2. Am glad Krazy got a little more attention, and that they showed up, but Im going to need more content. Seems like our schedules are similar enough that we will at least interact.
3. Speaking of, Carmen has gone AFK now, and since before my long post....
Mod - Prod?

4. But Elephant's response to my reads didn't help much either. My reads -- which TW categorized correctly, were two heavy towns, one light town, and 1.5 scum reads (key + Carmen/Elephant). To call the readslist
and followup explaining that Carmen/Elephant were not null, but rather an incompatible scum that I couldnt weigh against each other
mostly null-scum seems off and misreppy. If anything it was heavier on towning people than scum-hunting. But Im never good at judging people's reactions to me, since I think my wordiness is clearer than it often winds up being.
5. Speaking of, I found the heavy shading of my slot without many new votes pretty interesting. Perhaps Im channelling Sho's self-centeredness but it felt like there was at least one scum shading me but not voting -- some suggestion that one of the votes on me could have been a partner.
6. Whoever asked about how I normally form reads, I am normally stronger earlier. This game is hard for me because I have less time than normal (came close to not signing up) and I feel like there is an interplayer dynamic from past relationships that I am not picking up on.
7. Whoever commented on not being afraid of mobile posting, thats just not how I work. I need two monitors. I read in one, and add comments into my notes on another. I then reflect on the comments and post. I am very much a reflective player rather than a gutshot player. The hits above are the sorts of things Id put into my SS, not my customary post (at least not until I have better feels for the players.
8. Whoever posted the code for linking posts -- thanks. I know it. I link posts I think are important/central to my read. I dont link posts I merely refer to or think are not as central. If it would help others to have the coding for all references I can -- just respond to this and lmk.
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:49 pm

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Ah, up to you. I just thought I'd mention the code because when I was first told about it my mind exploded into 1,000 pieces of happy. :P

I do tend to go to those post numbers and check intuitively + contextually whether I agree with the content so if it's not too much trouble I can definitely say it helps me

up to you tho

Anyway let's catch up up when you're back. This ~week is a crazy time for all, I know I have been and will be busy with Halloween stuff. (I just also benefit from having no life. :shifty:)
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:28 am

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In post 399, the worst wrote:mind if I ask for an off-site profile link?
Sorry! I'd rather not have my internet profiles be able to be linked together.
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:45 am

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In post 183, Carmen wrote:
In post 128, FLUFFY WHITE SHEEP wrote:I WILL NOT STOP
ALSO
SHOSHIN PLEASE KEEP YOUR WIKI PAGE UP TO DATE
Hi FWSheep
Do you think this post gives town-Carmen rational reason to town read you?

Even willing to put “money on” the town tell they believe is true?
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:03 am

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In post 406, FLUFFY WHITE SHEEP wrote:
In post 399, the worst wrote:mind if I ask for an off-site profile link?
Sorry! I'd rather not have my internet profiles be able to be linked together.
No problems
You'll get blasted with my current feelings wrt with what I know of you, not what I can glean of you
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:24 am

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Interested to hear from Shoshin why xwing isn’t town.

My personal read on xwing went something like the following:

Paranoia
Eyebrow suspicion
Acceptance
Swayed
Satisfied
Happy
Town lean
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:30 am

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Hi Krazy, one more question to answer when you return:

You say you didn't like Carmen's interactions with Soshin during early D1:
In post 361, Krazy wrote:Her push on Shoshin was shitty in RVS and then she tried to backpedal.
How do you feel about MY interactions with Soshin, and FLUFFY's early interactions with Soshin - do we come out better with our pushes than Carmen?

What makes Carmen's push 'bad', and our pushes 'good'?
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:38 am

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In post 336, Shoshin wrote:If FWS is town, Carmen is locktown.
Have you ruled out Carmen TMI'ing on FWS?

I.e scum-Carmen who
knows
FWS is town, so posts a weird reasons to
locktown
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:48 am

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I don’t like my vote on FWS anymore :(


VOTE: Carmen

@Irrelephant - start posting bro, I think you’re partners! :shifty:
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:50 am

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hi I'm here
Today is actually a hell day at work, so I will not be very profound or do any of the in depth reading & thinking that I want to do
Who do you think I'm partners with? I'll vote 'em :P
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:50 am

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You already are... and they're voting you ;)
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:56 am

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In post 401, Shoshin wrote:I'm not feeling town Irrelephant yet, so we'll see about that.
ooh fun this is new for us
do one of your angle-shooty townread tests where no one can tell exactly how you're getting to the read, I'm sure I will pass

pedit: lol
Well great let's lynch Carmen then
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:58 am

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@schadd
- prod that mofo
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:22 am

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I'm lightly townreading teacher and Krazy's most recent posts
teacher because his self meta is accurate and I like his defense of his readslist (much better than "well how can you expect me to have non-nulls so early???" that I see scum or mehtown say after an early readslist)
Krazy because gut feel but obvs this is very very light
This is the part where I'd move my vote to my strongest scumread but it's still Carmen
Still don't townread the SHEEP, either

Feeling paranoid about the worst which probably should lead me to townread him more given my history of reading him
I find shoshin's non-townread on xwing interesting and also would like to hear more there, I feel like xwing is very towny (though not as towny as Shoshin or Keyser atm)
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:53 am

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prodding carmen
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:16 am

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im on V/LA but stealing time to post this
1. shoshin, interesting take on my slot..why?
2. seems too easy to vote on a lurker/inactive slot (carmen)..we can vote but dont lynch, well at least wait until she comes back; may have good reasons why FWS is town for her
3. krazy, nice to hear from you..do answer soze's question re carmen vote
4. shoshin, why are you not sure about irrel's slot?
i may missed stuff, these are the ones that caught my attention on skim..gtg..
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:02 am

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In post 407, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 183, Carmen wrote:
In post 128, FLUFFY WHITE SHEEP wrote:I WILL NOT STOP
ALSO
SHOSHIN PLEASE KEEP YOUR WIKI PAGE UP TO DATE
Hi FWSheep
Do you think this post gives town-Carmen rational reason to town read you?

Even willing to put “money on” the town tell they believe is true?
Oooh maybe not.
Carmen's disappearance is rather scummy as well.
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:05 am

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Carmen is currently at L-1. I'd rather not be hasty until Carmen comes back or we get a replacement.
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:03 am

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L-2* that was a typo
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:15 am

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SHEEP are you at all willing to lynch the worst?
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:22 am

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In post 410, Keyser Söze wrote:Hi Krazy, one more question to answer when you return:

You say you didn't like Carmen's interactions with Soshin during early D1:
In post 361, Krazy wrote:Her push on Shoshin was shitty in RVS and then she tried to backpedal.
How do you feel about MY interactions with Soshin, and FLUFFY's early interactions with Soshin - do we come out better with our pushes than Carmen?

What makes Carmen's push 'bad', and our pushes 'good'?
For you I have mixed feelings. was good, less of a fan of . Usually mixed feelings --> town for me but we'll see

Flufflez I need to metadive probably but I've been okay just being amused by his posts in the short run. I don't think he comes out as scummier than here Carmen tho--it's the backpedal that reads as scummy to me, not just the push itself
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