Open 739: Epic Duel [Game Over]

[Creature]

haven't been giving this game enough attention, but this game hasn't been giving me attention either.

[Creature]

Did we really just lynch the louder player?

[Creature]

okay, noticed RC sacrificed himself to save PP.

[Creature]

and his other locktownread turns out to be...

me

[Creature]

Creature is solidifying my Nic read right now.

Thanks.

I haven't done anything.

[Creature]

Did we really just lynch the louder player?

But if you are talking about rc and pp in a duel then I don't like your response straight off the bat. Your in Nic slot to so nothing really changed my read on it.

No, I was talking in general, not sure who I would choose between the duelers.

[Creature]

I thought I was playing a less townread slot, but whatever.

[Creature]

can't do actual stuff rn

gonna do tomorrow

[Creature]

No extensions?

[Creature]

Bad taste because you feel bad about it?

[Creature]

you implied the only reason was to lynch the loud one.

Nah I'm not that stupid

[Creature]

Creature are you caught up and if so what are your reads?

No, I haven't even started catching up.

[Creature]

like, I only checked RC.

[Creature]

you implied the only reason was to lynch the loud one.

Nah I'm not that stupid

What other reasons do you think it was for? Reading your post left me with the impression Garmr posted.

I implied we lynched the louder player, not that we lynched the louder player for being the loudest.

[Creature]

Hello, how much we got?

[Creature]

Oh 1 day

Let's see what I can do in one day

[Creature]

How is it a scumslip?

[Creature]

Wished BEF would be more present.

[Creature]

Damn I'm likely dying tonight

[Creature]

Are you admitting being scum then?

[Creature]

D2 will bring much needed information if I am alive to share it.

Did you just seriously hard scum slip....

The FA_Q2/Creature (NC) connection.

And then you don't even try.

VOTE: BrightEyedFish

Creature can wait till tomorrow.

Why vote now? Distancing?

Do you know what distancing means?

[Creature]

He meant FAQ's vote before him.

[Creature]

Hey Shoshin

Are you against BEF?

[Creature]

*against the BEF lynch

[Creature]

Damn so little time

[Creature]

We could start a townblock right here but it depends on you

[Creature]

I still say BEF is flipping town

[Creature]

Oh well, atleast deadline can be a good boy sometimes

[Creature]

Probably Creature next

Nah, I have the ability to obvtown

[Creature]

also I have RC's spirit on my side

[Creature]

Shoshin kill doesn’t make sense to me.

She obvtowns pretty easily

[Creature]

suggests there's atleast one scum aware of her

[Creature]

If I had to duel somebody rn, I would duel Light Ethos

[Creature]

still, I haven't even done my catch up

[Creature]

I think I've been reserving doing that for when I was truly bored and needed a mafia game to play.

Like, rn I want to Netflix

[Creature]

The game should be pretty simple, but let me have fun a little

[Creature]

Still, you can check this:

IO sealed my fate before I even replaced him.

Are you admitting being scum then?

[Creature]

Just don't instaduel and we should be fine.

[Creature]

Now gotta have some fun with Netflix

[Creature]

If you want I could do the duel

I'm fairly sure at one scum even though I haven't been catching up

[Creature]

VOTE: Light Ethos (who's basically Walt)

[Creature]

Did you slip me town?

[Creature]

If you think it is me and creature then why not use my vote there and hang creature.

You can hang me after

.

wouldn't game end if I was scum?

[Creature]

VOTE: FAQ

I think we would have gotten more info if you waited. The duel forces people between 2 choices it discourages people from talking about the rest of the players.

We could have also made creature duel him or something like that.

I would've dueled Light Ethos.

[Creature]

I just need the inspiration to go ultra stream of thoughtness mode.

[Creature]

Gotta agree on that

[Creature]

On the latter

[Creature]

Can the duel lynch wait?

[Creature]

Damn, I hate the fact it's 11:11 pm

[Creature]

and I have school tomorrow

[Creature]

Tomorrow I do.

Today I only had a glimpse of my mafia spirit returning.

[Creature]

Hi the duel sucks

[Creature]

VOTE: Garmr

[Creature]

Wait we're voting out whoever probably has the worst reads?

[Creature]

Both scumread me so good luck

[Creature]

Two guns walk into a bar.
One of them turns to the other and says "May I ask you a question?" The other replies 'Shoot!'.

This is town

[Creature]

Oh hey Ted ejji is town

I guess

[Creature]

Ffs wanted to just kill Walt's slot

[Creature]

My instinct is to err on the side of caution when it comes to dueling, but I mean, at the same time I signed up for this game because it's called Epic Duel, so I'd be bummed if we got through the game without using it.

Though, speaking of reads I kinda like ejjinami right now.
Although I don't agree with them I feel like their paranoia over mislynching comes from town.

Hehe

[Creature]

Huh? Never even multiquoted post 55

[Creature]

Nah at some point some gamethrowing moron is gonna duel me
Scum might even do it first

Lol

[Creature]

Shoshin prob died for wanting Walt dead

[Creature]

164 makes me feel pretty good about my vote

[Creature]

the worst probtown

[Creature]

my empathy

is totally turned off sorry.

like i understand that you're actually upset here as well as scum and some days I would care to try to make you feel better but not right now

Yeah that can happen sometimes when you get brain damage.

Heh

[Creature]

Wait we're voting out whoever probably has the worst reads?

So what do you like about faqs reads and what do you dislike about mine?

Idk which of you have the worst reads. I'm voting who I think is less likely to be town rn.

[Creature]

I'm going to post something in the minute. Since faq2 is going to flip scum I'm going to get shoot so may as well get all my current thoughts out there.

There's white flag lol

[Creature]

We're just one scum away from winning anyway. Walt slot is pretty much outed.

[Creature]

Maybe if you hadn't dueled we'd be winning by lynching Light Ethos rn.

[Creature]

Tbh I'm tempted to just hammer FAQ2 to end this duel and then we can lynch LE

[Creature]

Cool, you know how to make it look like scum will tell in the thread why they chose to vengekill someone.

[Creature]

Man the ammount of derping

[Creature]

Can't we just maj?

[Creature]

Lol when Garmr realised he's one member away from losing.

[Creature]

Didn't check your role PM right, huh?

[Creature]

Oh right

Sharpshooter PM doesn't say anything about White Flag lol

[Creature]

Scum seem to be setting me for their nextest mislynch after FAQ2

[Creature]

I haven't managed to read the entire game but the worst seemed town FAQ2 seems town here and gamestate is spewing FAQ2 as town

[Creature]

If you still feel FAQ2 is a better lynch than Garmr, I won't oppose that, but I will refuse to be the next lynch and I can end doing flaming postgame if it happens

[Creature]

I recently lost a game I couldn't save my town lover pair and town ended having only shitty t-t lover pairs

[Creature]

Yeah rn I'm frustrated because of that plus the shitty school day I'm having

[Creature]

Still sometimes I use my anger as a fuel

[Creature]

Like that game I just mentioned where my last words would've killed two scum had town listened to me.

[Creature]

Garmr can pull the "creature is trying to save his buddy" as much as possible.

[Creature]

I'm rn pretty sure LE's slot is scum but I may need to have an idea of who his partner is to conclude this game with style

[Creature]

I don't feel like browsing the pages all alone again, so I may need your help

[Creature]

I mostly need realtime interactions

[Creature]

so like who's garmr's partner do you think

Prodding Light Ethos.

(expired on 2018-10-26 20:50:10)

[Creature]

love the self-explanatory moments.

[Creature]

LE

[Creature]

If we lynch town this duel we won't lynch the other

[Creature]

VOTE: Light Ethos

[Creature]

If we lynch town this duel we won't lynch the other

I thought you were scumreading garmr?

I don't want to answer for creature but I can predict what his going to say. Basically it ends with him wanting to lynch me over faq2 and not touching faq when I flip town.

Looks like you turned out to be wrong.

[Creature]

If we lynch town this duel we won't lynch the other

I thought you were scumreading garmr?

I don't want to answer for creature but I can predict what his going to say. Basically it ends with him wanting to lynch me over faq2 and not touching faq when I flip town.

Looks like you turned out to be wrong.

Guess I was. But the question remains are you scum.

No, I'm not

[Creature]

I guess we can still mislynch today

[Creature]

I was fairly sure FAQ2 was town

[Creature]

If you think it was TMI, I can quote some posts

[Creature]

rn I'm thinking it's Light Ethos + Irrelephant

[Creature]

I couldn't play this game to my fullest because I thought I like had to read all pages and comment everywhere before expressing my reads.

[Creature]

I was more sure FA_Q2 to be town than you, even though I thought this was TvT.

[Creature]

Hence why I said at some point that if we lynch one we don't lynch the other

[Creature]

What does this mean?

I thought I had to read all pages to start hard defending players like FAQ2 and attacking players like LE

[Creature]

And I told you EXACTLY why I voted now. That horrific post.

If you think it is me and creature then why not use my vote there and hang creature. You can hang me after.

sigh.

Duels are asininely scum sided. garmr you are an idiot.

so why are you sure he's a better lynch than you? If he's town, and you're town, and you're more easily mislynchable (and based on others' reads up to this point that's the case) you should probably be the one to go. Is there anything other than the duel that makes you think Garmr is scum?

Because I

thought

he was town - pulling that duel particularly in the shit way he did certainly seems scummy af to me - but I KNOW I am town for certain.

[Creature]

My memory might be failing me though because it has been 3 days already

[Creature]

Yeah Garmr is probably town, RC seemed to scumread him for anger but his anger seemed justified (fhpov anyway). Only concern is the quote I just posted from RC
No experience with him, but I'd rather he was town than scum so he is for now
You're town because it was like the one thing Shoshin and RC both solidly said
Penguin is town because RC was right that multiple players TMI'd Penguin's alignment as town

Leaving creature and LE fmpov
I keep wanting to read things more deeply to have stronger reasons but before FAQ2 flipped I thought it would be easy to win w/o doing so
If it's LE I guess I still feel that way

RC also had a strong townread on my slot

[Creature]

@PP - how well can you read creature? Or is it just the activity tell?

There are a lot of ways to read me. Most of the ways I'm not even aware enough to break it.

[Creature]

First thing you should do is stop being lazy

[Creature]

You do have a looot of posts for a rep in actually. Sure most of them are non-posts but still I would think you'd be a little lurky. Especially that nick was a suspected slot, only RC TR'd him if I recall.

Suspected slot?

[Creature]

Right, I never said you were shit, at the time I was saying you were "either shit or scum" and went with scum because you seemed to be 1/3 in your top three. Of course you took that as me calling you shit because FYPOV you know you are not scum. I saw you hard pushing RC as scum, who seemed like pretty likely town based on the amount of effort he was putting in after being very likely to get lynched, and you also seemed to want to scumread me when I know I am town, so it seemed to me like you were at most 1/3 for your top three. The problem was that Penguin was not and is not obviously scum, but he sorta just cruised through that duel, and I think you getting ragetilted over what RC was saying toward you helped scum push RC through even though of the two he was the worse lynch. (imo)

Still doesn't make Penguin scum, but I do still think your lack of push on Penguin is one reason he remains pretty null. We had two players dueling and one of them remains null... that shouldn't really happen. But the reason it happened, in fairness to you, has a lot more to do with RC than with you.

To be clear, I don't think you're shit at this game, or shit as a person, but I do think you can be needlessly hostile and tend to escalate hostility very quickly.

idk you do seem legitimately temperamental but FA_Q does not. His anger seems fakier to me, whereas you seem to have really thought I was calling you shit (since I said "shit or scum") when imo I was just calling you scum. Whereas FA_Q I really did only say he was scum and then he seemed to get really angry for no reason other than being scumread. Like that OMGUS felt really weak to me. He should get roped. I know my case was not like, pulitzer prize winning. This game still doesn't have like a ton of dope material to work with. But his reaction was pretty bad. 715 is scummy, even if you agree my case was shitty

Yeah I was kinda reconsidering my scumread of Garmr in that post which I guess is what threw you off. He really seemed to think I insulted him, which seemed to suggest he hadn't even considered the possibility I was calling him scum. I mean it's possible he went that route as scum to throw me off but it was enough for now for him to drop back to a null/leanscum read rather than a red read.

I'm attempting to get you to be more vocal with your reasoning. You're very gnomic this game.

RC just didn't convince me he was worth saving, and if I can't get people to unload the wagon then it doesn't matter whether I vote you or not. None of the votes on him were moving. You were null, not scum, and I'm not going to fight to unload a wagon on a reckless null/slight leantown to lynch a null/null.

Your reads might overlap with RC but I'd rather you explain the reads in your own words. RC might be flipped town but that doesn't mean his reads were any better than anyone else's or any better than they usually are. And in my experience his reads are usually pretty bad to be honest. He keeps SAYING they're great. But they're really not, at least not in any game I have been in with him.

Like let's not beat around the bush. He totally fucked day one.

He made the first duel USELESS because he fucking gave up for no goddamn reason before anyone had a fucking read on you

And forced every vote to be locked between you and him for a fucking real life week

while the rest of the game came to a crashing halt

YEAH

I DID FUCKING NOTHING TO SAVE HIM

AND I WOULDN'T SAVE HIM NOW EITHER

I frankly dislike the entire mechanic of this setup and I'm like basically done with this game altogether.

I would duel you, except DUELS ARE BORING because the mechanic is SLOW AND CANNOT BE ACCELERATED which means votes for the first six days are fucking irrelevant

You know what fuck this game, lynch whoever I've stopped caring.

I thought maybe with replacements I could get back into it

But all you wanna do is talk about RC and act like he's a golden fucking goose when his reads are always awful and he definitely was not even sorta close to worth saving

Replace out

[Creature]

Especially that nick was a suspected slot

???

[Creature]

lol he was more obvtown than me

[Creature]

wtf BuJaber

Are you that ignorant or is there something wrong about you this game?

[Creature]

creature, bujaber, do you agree with Garmr that LE's only possible partners are Garmr and BuJ?

Not really, but I am leaning them anyway.

[Creature]

Still, you're bothering me Irrelephant

[Creature]

What have you done of noticeable this game?

[Creature]

Oh, I remembered there's also that scum!FAQ2 deciding to bus BEF while not being bothered about players associating him and BEF makes no sense.

[Creature]

Creature the posts you quoted are a big reason why I have a problem with your slot.

Is it something about his toxicity?

[Creature]

I don't think he would fake those as scum.

[Creature]

I've done next to nothing noticeable this game
I literally came to sheep RC and Shoshin to a town win, and annoyingly we're getting to the point where either LE is scum or I'm the lylo mislynch, so I'm trying to enter the game in case it's not the former

Yeh, would be good to enter the game

[Creature]

Yes but if LE flips town, I'm probably the easiest mislynch in lylo (and from an outside perspective I probably would think so too) though maybe I'm just biased because I don't feel like I'm playing very well and I'm just assuming that that's true from scum's perspective too
Well, right, yeah, if LE is town then I'm not playing very well actually so that answers that

LE if town is not playing very well either

[Creature]

Also, tf, saying LE can only be scum with those not voting him is like reachy

[Creature]

Never heard of the White Flag Gambit?

[Creature]

I probably need to recheck Garmr and BuJaber (more the latter).

Not liking the way they seem to be uninterested on LE, a slot that has been strangely inactive.

[Creature]

This is scum!Nicolas Cage

[Creature]

Since you didn't see it, Nicolas Cage is pretty different there compared to this game.

[Creature]

I'm now not even sure if you're biasing somewhere (which would explain you not wanting to townread me because you don't want to have to review your townreads) or if you really need to keep your mislynch options open because you or your partner might be endangered.

[Creature]

Yawn

How much should I trust RC?

[Creature]

rn I'm thinking of only trusting Irre and PP.

Then I have two shots to find scum at {BuJ, Garmr, LE}

[Creature]

LE: Does nothing. "oh lets not lynch him"
Creature: Is actually doimg stuff. "lynch him because obv no one is defending him"

[Creature]

Garmr

[Creature]

Let me reach home

[Creature]

I have a load of rage to discharge upon this thread

[Creature]

Fucking

[Creature]

(not directed to anyone)

[Creature]

What a nice time to be busy

[Creature]

Do I have to run from school to home every wednesday to prevent town from throwing?

[Creature]

this is dumb
why wasn't faq2 scum

also can it just be creature and le because that requires the least re-evaluating fmpov

Want to vote creature then becuase me and bujab seem to agree on the slot.

"want to vote creature because everybody seems to agree on the slot EVEN THOUGH THIS IS FUCKING WHITEFLAG AND SCUM CAN'T LET THEIR PARTNER GET LYNCHED?"

okay
please be town
VOTE: creature

"sure"

[Creature]

Okay, now about LE

Where do I start?

[Creature]

LE didn't do shit

Walt didn't do shit

That slot didn't do shit all together

[Creature]

LE has been just lurking, coasting, prod-dodging, sitting on sidelines, whatever else

[Creature]

And no, he isn't like that as town

[Creature]

For everyone else his basically saying his lynchbait here and a easy duel making me scum. That's a pretty scummy reasons as well to try and scum read me.

I tend to agree with this. When you got dueled, the better choice would have been to step back speak about your reads, FA_Q2. If people liked your reads more than Garmr's, then they would vote Garmr, and if you flip town, your reads would be given more consideration. That you didn't consider this at all says that you're probably scum.

"oh i agree that and that about the duel and blah blah blah"

@Creature: Walk me through the Garmr case. I'm not seeing it. Walk us through your case on my slot too.
I see Garmr's duel here as a town-motivated attempt at forcing everyone to consider his read more closely.

"uh oh i got prodded let me prod-dodge then disappear yet again"

[Creature]

What? Light Ethos' last post is from October 26th?

What day is today?

[Creature]

Who did replace Light Ethos?

[Creature]

What did Walt do this game?

[Creature]

Taking a quick glance at his ISO it's like absolutely nothing scum would never easily do

[Creature]

"oh RC you so toxic"

"oh what is this new wagon?"

[Creature]

Like, even if that slot was town, the best to do is get rid of that slot because it's a seriously darn great LyLo mislynch.

It will always be sketch

It will always look scummy

It will never be properly readable

No one will bother to seriously defend that slot

So if it's town better get rid of that now and have LyLo with actually readable players rather than have an easy LyLo for scum

[Creature]

there's also that that slot can easily throw LyLo even if the lynch seems aimed elsewhere

[Creature]

Any defense that exists on that slot doesn't make sense and is very likely to come from scum

[Creature]

I'm not LE's partner

PP is not LE's partner

Irre is not LE's partner

Who is it?

Who's actually defending that slot because "uh oh it can only be partnered with wolfstein and wolfson"?

[Creature]

Damn, my steam already ended

[Creature]

Wanna irritate me more?

[Creature]

Irre, I think you're town

but seriously

that vote may make you scum's favorite mislynch tomorrow if I happen to be mislynched today

[Creature]

I'm having difficulty believing town!you would make that vote

[Creature]

I would like you to explain that so I can focus on deciding who's LE's partner and who's town scumsiding between Garmr and BuJaber.

[Creature]

Doesn't change this:

okay
please be town
VOTE: creature

[Creature]

It also almost got me lynched

[Creature]

What did you mean there?

[Creature]

Like hammers still aren't a thing in this setup

thought plurality was only for duels

[Creature]

What do I mean where?

Doesn't change this:

okay
please be town
VOTE: creature

[Creature]

Ohkay

It's plurality for both

[Creature]

Mod

Was Light Ethos replaced or did he actually die and it's just his name showing up on the VC?

[Creature]

Irre, who's most likely scum among Garmr and BuJaber?

[Creature]

Like there's Garmr who has been more aggressively scumsiding (like instadueling FA_Q2 before everyone could actually give thoughts) and there's BuJaber who has been more passively scumsiding (like sheeping Garmr and doing zero real analysis).

[Creature]

BuJaber has been getting townread too easily this game

[Creature]

Mod

Was Light Ethos replaced or did he actually die and it's just his name showing up on the VC?

Light Ethos was replaced. His slot is currently empty and his username is sitting in the VC.

Oh

[Creature]

Oh well, we can't lynch rn so there's always a chance for a hero to appear.

[Creature]

Cool I'm mad

but now I'm mad that I lost the steam for it

[Creature]

Just noticed I've been complaining about being busy and my profile shows my interest is being busy

[Creature]

I think the two scum are among {BuJ, Garmr, LE}

[Creature]

The game should end as soon the town one of them starts actually townsiding

[Creature]

Irrelephant, you still here?

[Creature]

BuJ again resisting to LE

[Creature]

Garmr wants me dead
BuJ wants me dead
PP seemed fine lynching me
Irre voted me out of blue
I'm trying to get LE lynched

Tell me, who is my partner?

[Creature]

You see something's wrong when you have to assume crazy stuff to scumread me

[Creature]

As soon as I stir the pot people get active then I get the artificial as fuck scum reads from pp and creature. It's like everyone else was complaisant with LE being the lynch with out considering who his scum partner could be or what they would do if is town.

Okay back to this
VOTE: ele
He's just being sheepy at this point. Plus the shoshin kill and Io interactions.

Creature you just keep getting mad when voted but you don't comment on my cases.

Man, those are pretty scummy.

Could it be Buj + Garmr trying to tie themselves hard to LE?

[Creature]

I was posting a lot before too

[Creature]

Or do you think I posted 180 posts yesterday?

[Creature]

Do you think I am only ever partnered with PP?

[Creature]

Pff It took a noticable increase as soon as I stirred the pot you can't deny that.

You can't deny I was active before that either.

[Creature]

I don't know why Garmr is even scumreading me

[Creature]

Obviously I'm gonna self pres because I should be terribly obv or even locktown for those who know me well and if I'm mislynched likely Irre will be mislynched or town will fuck up someway tomorrow

[Creature]

You're good at manipulating players, Garmr

But to me and to PP plus Irre you're openwolfing

[Creature]

My hesitation about you though is that there are three extremely scummy players rn and I gotta identify who's the town out of them.

[Creature]

I'm only partnered with PP
Irre is only partnered with PP
BuJ is bias town
LE is town because "oh he can only be partnered with me or the guy I bias town"

You know what? I'll vote Creature

[Creature]

Well, imo any combination of {BuJ, Garmr, LE} works and none of them are being protown rn

[Creature]

PP is town

Oh how surprising

Even a 5-years old would notice that

[Creature]

this is why PP is never scum
He decides I'm town when he thought the opposite of my pred
Pretty much only because I voted the Io/BEF slot

I don't think scum!PP changes his read on me to a townread because I'm voting his partner
I also don't think we look like partner scum at all here but I'm obv biased

Although...I may be wrong because I like what teh Elephant is pushing as I catchup.

like what specifically do you like

Spoiler: This

I’ve been skimming and will start here
VOTE: BrightEyedFish

I’m not around as much on the weekends so if I need my vote somewhere else I’ll figure that out Monday

idk what NC is but maybe what I bolded is a scumslip, so
Nothing he posted came across as super towny imo
His case on tw was weak and I think the slot was/is green based on tw's posting
So like, from 1-10, 10 being town, he's like a 4
Also whoever said sheeping RC is a bad idea: how familiar are you with RC's meta?

Why can't we lynch Io slot now? Seems like that's what we should do.

Spoiler: Especially This

Also hi I like you too
(o)>
//\ <3
V_/

Sounds like you been pocketed to me.

Says the one who's hard townreading someone who's openly barking

[Creature]

rn we can only hope it isn't BuJ + LE and the town one of them sees the light.

[Creature]

1349
Not a good reason to passive townreading

[Creature]

lol the hipocrisy here

[Creature]

Damn, I'm struggling to find the right avatar

[Creature]

Wow

So how are you?

[Creature]

I'll probably check your case on PP since, well, I'm feeling good.

[Creature]

Sorry I wasn't present earlier to make you feel better about voting LE.

[Creature]

Personally I'm waiting for BuJ to come back or LE's replacement to show up

This.

Hopefully LE's replacement still comes today, I don't feel good leaving an empty slot to LyLo if we mislynch today.

[Creature]

It was pretty clear I entered today with 3 suspects you, creature and LE.

What about PP?

Did you townread him then went into scumreading him?

[Creature]

I don't think the shoshin kill excludes creature hence the earlier vote. But I do think it excludes LE

I'd rather not townclear anyone out of the Shoshin kill.

Because I don't think LE nor BEF ever paid attention to this game anyway.

[Creature]

You AtE is clearly working on everyone though so good job with that.

Ever checked my scumgames to see if I can AtE convincingly?