Large Normal 216 - Endgame

[profii]

Max and I are actually masons

Did Max confirm? It would be easy for a Cop to verify TWO slots if that was the case. I don't think faking Masons is a large is at all a good idea, so I'm tentatively removing Max from my D1 lynch pool.

Anyone bothered that AP is suggesting a direction for any potential investigations here

[xx2008]

I'm not sure why dva and creature think Sephiroth and flubbernugget are scummy, and why they changed votes after only two or so posts.

[DVa]

What is townie about Sephiroth or flubber? That is the question I am asking right now. Do you see anything that indicates a town thought process?

[xx2008]

Just curious, which posts by Garmr do you dislike Creature?
VOTE: AP

Dunno, I'm just counting posts I like, dislike or find null.

Garmr has the highest red count. Why aren't you voting there?

Doing an ISO on flubber right now. What I find from this post is, creature isn't counting posts he finds towny or scummy; he's only counting posts he likes or dislikes. Creature not liking someone's post does not mean creature will vote that person. I don't think this post is towny, but I also would not find it very scummy.

[xx2008]

VOTE: DVa

VOTE: creature

It doesn't make sense to me why you voted dva and immediately changed your vote to creature.

[Creature]

Just curious, which posts by Garmr do you dislike Creature?
VOTE: AP

Dunno, I'm just counting posts I like, dislike or find null.

Garmr has the highest red count. Why aren't you voting there?

Doing an ISO on flubber right now. What I find from this post is, creature isn't counting posts he finds towny or scummy; he's only counting posts he likes or dislikes. Creature not liking someone's post does not mean creature will vote that person. I don't think this post is towny, but I also would not find it very scummy.

It's more posts that ping town, that ping scum and that I can't determine.

Though, the way it worked wouldn't be as simple as just check the highest red count.

[xx2008]

So this is a pretty big lynch pool. Even for a wip. I am going to be paying close attention to how it gets whittled down.

What does it mean to have players in it that you cant sort? And why cant you sort them?

In a 20 man game I don't see a problem with a wide early game lynchpool.

Why is Carca bolded here but not addressed in your questioning?

Did AP catch a partner or two in that net?

There's 12 people in the pool. That's 60% of the game. That's like (generously) saying you're okay to lynch 5 out of 9 in a micro.

Additionally, poe in a large is significantly worse than that ratio gives off just because most people can only hold a small list of ideas at one time. There's a lot of room for scum to hide in that mental load. I get that sometimes the whole game just looks town, but when that happens to me, I try to be as precise about why I am town reading each individual as possible.

I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to ask about carca. AP bolded that and I do think they explained why in the same post.

I kind of agree with this, because it wouldn't make sense to have a lynchpool of 12 people. How will this pool be narrowed down?

[xx2008]

Just curious, which posts by Garmr do you dislike Creature?
VOTE: AP

Dunno, I'm just counting posts I like, dislike or find null.

Garmr has the highest red count. Why aren't you voting there?

Doing an ISO on flubber right now. What I find from this post is, creature isn't counting posts he finds towny or scummy; he's only counting posts he likes or dislikes. Creature not liking someone's post does not mean creature will vote that person. I don't think this post is towny, but I also would not find it very scummy.

It's more posts that ping town, that ping scum and that I can't determine.

Though, the way it worked wouldn't be as simple as just check the highest red count.

I can see that keeping a chart is diffficult, and not always will the highest red count yield a scumread.

[xx2008]

as for the rest of flubber's posts, I seem to have mixed feelings regarding them. They dont seem very towny, but they don't seem very scummy either. I'm not ready to put my vote on flubber yet.

[DVa]

you're getting too much value from your vote on no one?

[AP]

you only need one

at a time

my dear

Fixed that for you. yeah, that might be the case for most, but I say the more the merrier.

[AP]

Anyone bothered that AP is suggesting a direction for any potential investigations here

Did I say "tonight" though?

[Garmr]

Anyone bothered that AP is suggesting a direction for any potential investigations here

Did I say "tonight" though?

Does it even matter if you said tonight or not?

[Creature]

For anyone who is an MUer (someone seemed to be asking), up to hydra?

[xx2008]

I realized I had forgotten to do an ISO on sephiros, which I soon do.

[AP]

Anyone bothered that AP is suggesting a direction for any potential investigations here

Did I say "tonight" though?

Does it even matter if you said tonight or not?

Of course it does. If a Mason flips BEFORE they are checked then obviously there is no need to check the other. Also not specifying when to do the check doesn't take away the option for the investigative ti check wherever they like at any given night, including N1.

Me saying the duo could be verified with one check is more of a justification to leave them alone than it is "directing an investigative" to do a check on them.

[AP]

For anyone who is an MUer (someone seemed to be asking), up to hydra?

If you don't find someone in proper time then I will, provided you set the hydra account and just pass give me the password in a PM HERE ON MS (I'm not guaranteed to check on MU every day, but I am guaranteed to be on A50 each and every day)

[AP]

Oh, and if you still don't know who I am on MU.. ask me in a PM to A50

[Creature]

For anyone who is an MUer (someone seemed to be asking), up to hydra?

If you don't find someone in proper time then I will, provided you set the hydra account and just pass give me the password in a PM HERE ON MS (I'm not guaranteed to check on MU every day, but I am guaranteed to be on A50 each and every day)

Oh right, found you now

[Garmr]

Anyone bothered that AP is suggesting a direction for any potential investigations here

Did I say "tonight" though?

Does it even matter if you said tonight or not?

Of course it does. If a Mason flips BEFORE they are checked then obviously there is no need to check the other. Also not specifying when to do the check doesn't take away the option for the investigative ti check wherever they like at any given night, including N1.

Me saying the duo could be verified with one check is more of a justification to leave them alone than it is "directing an investigative" to do a check on them.

But if you believed the mason claim why would there be a cop?

[Completly Trustworthy]

Alright,looks like the claim was just a joke. I think that's anti-town behavior, but is not really scummy since scum have little to gain from doing something like that. I've also liked some of her posts after the joke like 670 and 689, so I'm no longer quite as convinced in her being scum. She appears to have become a more active player due to the pressure, so for now I think I'll give her a pass.

[DVa]

How you feel about Flubber Lando?

[Completly Trustworthy]

I don't feel that good about Flubbernugget now, I initially liked his early game for giving a lot of reads when many people were fluffing. However, that comment in 667 was pingy and I don't like how he hasn't really pushed anyone all that hard. Garmr interacted with Shattiel a lot and actively cased her, but Flubber voted her and then just disappeared for a while. I agree that that is a good idea to push him.

VOTE: Flubbernugget

[Shattiel]

Trustworthy's thought process is too simple but I trust that he actually believes what he's saying.

[profii]

Anyone bothered that AP is suggesting a direction for any potential investigations here

Did I say "tonight" though?

Does it even matter if you said tonight or not?

Of course it does. If a Mason flips BEFORE they are checked then obviously there is no need to check the other. Also not specifying when to do the check doesn't take away the option for the investigative ti check wherever they like at any given night, including N1.

Me saying the duo could be verified with one check is more of a justification to leave them alone than it is "directing an investigative" to do a check on them.

I didn’t say tonight either....

You are right as soon as 1 mason flips, the other is pretty much a guarantee but we all know that

Something still isn’t right - a cop wouldn’t verify both slots anyway - a _rolecop_ would but you said cop

Dunno if this was just you typing quickly or a slot. I just don’t like that post that started this