Mini Normal 2040: Day 4

[DVa]

I'm alright voting Celemency for now, while I try to see what exactly EJ was saying in that post.

are you townreading Sashaddin?

[Carmen]

I'm alright voting Celemency for now, while I try to see what exactly EJ was saying in that post.

Unless you were scumreading Clemency before, your new reason for scumreading him comes from thinking that a post shows Elsa claiming scum with Clemency. So how does seeing that lead to the conclusion of voting Clemency while still deliberating on Elsa being scum?

[Almost50]

I'm alright voting Celemency for now, while I try to see what exactly EJ was saying in that post.

are you townreading Sashaddin?

Vibes are fine form Sasha. I just never saw scum!him so I'm not positive.

[Sashaddin]

Vibes are fine form Sasha. I just never saw scum!him so I'm not positive.

There you go. It was my first ever game though, so it might not tell much.
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[Sashaddin]

Vibes are fine form Sasha. I just never saw scum!him so I'm not positive.

There you go. It was my first ever game though, so it might not tell much.
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[Almost50]

I'm alright voting Celemency for now, while I try to see what exactly EJ was saying in that post.

Unless you were scumreading Clemency before, your new reason for scumreading him comes from thinking that a post shows Elsa claiming scum with Clemency. So how does seeing that lead to the conclusion of voting Clemency while still deliberating on Elsa being scum?

Clemency was a main suspect of Auro, if I recall correct.

are you trying to get hammered?

Hammer me and we go down 0-2 instead of 1-1

OK, so since I'm -obviously- drawing a link between the two, I'd say this is SvS which translates:
- Are you trying to get yourself lynched?
- No. I'm trying to establish a connection between you and EJ, so if I get lynched you are safe and if you get lynched EJ follows (1v1), but if you are the one hammering me then it's likely it will backfire and you will follow (0-2).

Really can't see this as a TvT exchange, this alone is enough to keep my vote on BEF.

THIS was his last post of the day, and with BEF flipping green it follows Auro would have been on Clemency because he didn't think it was TvT.

Now BEF had these two posts as his last posts:

i mean does it? it just feels like he's taking everything really out of context
how does this help our case

Our case?

Scumslip?

He believed Clemency might have scumslipped.

So, while I see EJ might have spewed Clemency as a scum partner, I actually was more suspicious of Clemency to begin with.

[Almost50]

@Sasha: Gimme the tl;dr. How do YOU think your scum game differs from your town game?

[DrDolittle]

vote count 2.01

Day 2, Vote Count 1

Sashaddin

(2) : DVa, ofrhz

ofrhz

(1) : Carmen

Elsa Jay

(1) : Clemency

Carmen

(1) : Not_Mafia

Almost50

(0) :

Clemency

(0) :

DVa

(0) :

Not_Mafia

(0) :

Not voting:

(4): Almost50, Elsa Jay, Sashaddin

with 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

day two will end with no lynch in (expired on 2018-11-16 19:00:00)

[Elsa Jay]

Your first post after we were together day 1 on day 2 is to throw me away.

guess he's 'letting you go'?

I'll see myself out

1: I'll remember this.

2: after basically scaring off Tic Tac, I'd rather have more decent evidence before I go for someome elsa ATM.

Currently looking at everyone besides Dva and Almost again. I trust those 2 and they have wildly differing perspectives.

{Carmen, Sashaddin, Ofrhz, NotMafia, Clemency}

If I divide it further...

{Ofrhz, Sashaddin}
{Carmen, Clemency, NotMafia}

Those 2 groups probably have one scum each.

[Almost50]

VOTE: Clemency

[Not_Mafia]

Carmen is scum

[Elsa Jay]

NotMaf if you actually give me a 100 word or more paragraph about why Carmen is scum I'll follow your guidance.

[Not_Mafia]

Carmen is scum because Carmen is really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really scummy

[DVa]

mfw the word count of his iso just doubled

[Elsa Jay]

... Probably should have specified it to be a serious paragraph. But you did what I asked, so you get the vote.

VOTE: Carmen

UNVOTE: Carmen

Now work to actually get it to stick.

[Almost50]

Hey, N_M.. copy the spoiler and post it as yours in response to EJ

Spoiler:

Carmen is scum because Carmen is scum, and I -Not_Mafia- have a good eye for scum, so I hereby declare Carmen is scum.

Now if you want detailed reasoning I am willing to tell you that Carmen is scum based on the color of the role PM they received which I believe to be red. Red -as you may well know- is traditionally used to refer to group scum role PMs, and if Carmen received a red role PM then they must have rolled scum.

Other than that, as scum they must share a PT with fellow scum partners, and that is one more reason to believe Carmen is scum, but not the only one, because I already stated the main two reasons Carmen is scum aside from the fact that sharing a scum PT with fellow scum partners proves Carmen is scum.

Now THAT is how you make a case, N_M.

[Elsa Jay]

This is just a random thought on my mind but...

10p means if we hang a townie and have a townie shot at night each night, that means... We only get 3 strikes and then we're out.

We're playing a terrific form of fucking baseball here. We get 3 chances to not fuck up. And we used one yesterday.

[Sashaddin]

@Sasha: Gimme the tl;dr. How do YOU think your scum game differs from your town game?

I was a lot more discreet as scum, not to "slip" and out my partner. I spoke about me a lot of the time and not much against other players iirc, so they wouldn't make associations. This got well until I got lynched on the last night (I missed a quickhammer by being away from comp )
Since that game I've always been town. I think I'm getting better at interacting with other people as I play, I engage a lot more, screw the possible associations. I can defend, and attack a bit. I still have a lot of difficulty on Day 1 but as the game narrows I get better.

[Elsa Jay]

Hopefully a good case will be here when I wake up tomorrow. It better be good.

[Sashaddin]

Miller isn't a TPR, he was either a Miller for a town gunsmith or a false positive for a scum gunsmith, leaning the second but could be either

OK. I accept that. So, Scum!GS, Town!GS, or Neapolitan. And you get town poinrts for saying this before I posted my own list of questions.

You have covered 3 roles, but might there also be a scum doctor? Since we had (at least?) two vigilantes.... from the wiki: "It is not unheard of for Mafia to have Doctors of their own in games with Vigilantes[...]"

This could mean Auro shot someone with his single bullet but got blocked by the Doctor, without producing any message of the fired shot.

[DVa]

This could mean Auro shot someone with his single bullet but got blocked by the Doctor, without producing any message of the fired shot.

That's way less likely than the chances that he didn't shoot. There is no reason at the moment to imagine there is a scum doctor. The likelihood that Auro didn't shoot is quite frankly very high; the chances that he shot and the target was saved by a scum doctor is so low as to be absurd frankly.

[Sashaddin]

That's way less likely than the chances that he didn't shoot. There is no reason at the moment to imagine there is a scum doctor. The likelihood that Auro didn't shoot is quite frankly very high; the chances that he shot and the target was saved by a scum doctor is so low as to be absurd frankly.

Ok. Just trying to figure how and why the people had those roles, doctor came to mind when I did.

[Sashaddin]

That's way less likely than the chances that he didn't shoot. There is no reason at the moment to imagine there is a scum doctor. The likelihood that Auro didn't shoot is quite frankly very high; the chances that he shot and the target was saved by a scum doctor is so low as to be absurd frankly.

Ok. Just trying to figure how and why the people had those roles, doctor came to mind when I did.

[Clemency]

gonna be busy today so imma hit you up with the worlds most transparent prod dodge

[Clemency]

i'll explain my logic on why my vote is on elsa once im back