@profi LOL how atrocious of you to tell people that at work.
@FL I hard disagree though I see where you come from in that approach. I always strongly believed we need to protect our prs and having a mod-confirmed town is an outrageously strong asset to fight scum. My NRG knowledge already thinks this setup of shortening day phases, is likely deadly enough with possibly multiple night deaths. With all that said , if you get protected and survive into d2, that's a huge asset.
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In post 437, Performer wrote:
Another reason I ask about meta is because (for those who know me well) I don't easily trust null/hard to read slots.
@seph why I'm scumreading is is because of this quote + any other townread on the wagon + I like wagons (see my profile) + day 1 ends this week iirc + I'm never fond of deadline lynches + if we end up with no lynch it's a bad idea + I've had nos tr in the nos v you debate
I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.
-Morality
I'm easily the best person in the game at mechanics. I don't presume to be the best at anything else.
So I really didn’t like DVA’s argument with a Sephiroth and the entirety of the lynch pool mentality.
To me, it comes off like DVA isn’t looking for scum, she’s looking to stay politically favored, and find some kind of compromise lynch, or mislynch, should I add.
I noticed this before I made my entrance into the game, and was rereading the game entirely, I almost wanted to tunnel DVA right then and there, but I needed more. I needed to see that it wasn’t just personality. I needed a wagon.
And while I did scum read Seph and Max, I chose to take a blind eye to DVA so I could read them, because they came off as super scum to me.
The moment that hit me the most just now, was her argument with Sephiroth.
Not unlike profii’s last comment, it looks as if DVA was looking for a reason to help give Sephiroth that little oomph it needed to get closer to a hammer. She was looking for the flawed play to pounce on.
If seph was scum, sure, dva’s likely not scummwith him, but my scum read on Seph has definitely dissipated, and I feel that scum is on the Seph wagon.
That entire conversation with Seph DVA has comes off decent considering at the time the general consensus was SCUM SEPH, but without that, DVA looks to be pushing a blatant scum agenda.
In post 1054, Flavor Leaf wrote:Not unlike profii’s last comment, it looks as if DVA was looking for a reason to help give Sephiroth that little oomph it needed to get closer to a hammer. She was looking for the flawed play to pounce on.
Yeah, or maybe he called me "disingenuous" for saying to take his time and reread the thread.
Like maybe I have an agenda, or maybe he was acting like a douche and I stopped caring what his alignment was
Through my entire read through I was thinking “yup, one of Nosf or Seph are definitely scum”
And it’s Seph.
I'm astounded that people actually read an interaction that was literally getting worked up by emboldened text
and went "yup there's scum there."
amazing
VOTE: max
My first post that pinged me was by Nosf when I brought up one of Nosf and seph being scum. This was a sheep vote onto Maxous. This is prime time for a bus vote that isn’t expected to go much because I literally had ZERO reasoning.
Which also falls in line with Profii then going on to vote Seph. Profii’s a Boon Babe, we’d already established a link between us this game,p. It was expected of me to look into what he was saying.
This incited the Seph wagon, that Nosf had put a high town read on. That would have given Nosf town cred.
In post 1019, Shattiel wrote:that sounds more like a policy lynch lets talk about your scumreads.
Why does everybody bring up policy lynching so often? I have NO CONFIDENT SCUM READS. I thus opt to use my gut and I know my gut isn't a good tool (some players have good gut reads, but I'm not one of those), but I have no better alternative.
In post 221, xx2008 wrote:@sephiroth, for some reason, I think your posts were attempting to tunnel. You also took back what you said immediately after. I don't think those are likely to come from someone who is town. VOTE: sephiroth, at least for now.
In post 225, xx2008 wrote:Your posts sounded strange. They seemed like you were trying to find everything that was wrong about Nosferatu.
In post 235, xx2008 wrote:I can understand both of your points, but Nosferatu's posts seem a lot more relaxed and likely to come from town. However, Sephiroth, your posts are somewhat leaning scummy.
You are welcome to that read, but this is also just kind of how I talk.
You do seem that way when I read your posts. UNVOTE: for now.
In post 282, xx2008 wrote:I think the Nosferatu and Sephiroth 1v1 could either be a TvT or a SvT. I think it's more of a TvT, though, because it appears more like a misunderstanding. I don't expect two scum to be doing this, though, for that would attract too much attention, especially due to the fact that this 1v1 lasted for a long time in terms of pages, and anyone skimming through the game could have noticed it.
In post 776, xx2008 wrote:I'm not sure why dva and creature think Sephiroth and flubbernugget are scummy, and why they changed votes after only two or so posts.
In post 777, DVa wrote:What is townie about Sephiroth or flubber? That is the question I am asking right now. Do you see anything that indicates a town thought process?
why is scummy about Sephiroth?
I can find zero explanation from you about it.
Instead you're just trying to get people to prove he's town.
Regarding dva's post, it does not say that Sephiroth and flubber are scummy. It only asks if anyone can find anything towny about them, which I think is a rhetorical question. I have mixed feelings towards flubber right now.
And then I’ve already brought up the AP contradicting lynchpool and wagon formation.
I agree that the wagon was a lot, though, and it seemed like AP was in some sort of confusion, but knew something wasn’t up, and his reads weren’t all there, which it shouldn’t need to be, it’s Day 1 in a large.
DVA, Nosf, profii, Maxous is where I’m at right now.
In post 1059, Saudade wrote:wish I was scum this game
I could scum theater the fuck out of so many players together
Game would be at 200+ pages
easy win
yes you WOULD scum theater, as I've seen not 1 but 2 of your scum games
I thought nos vs seph was a town vs town to be honest. His defeatist attitude (1042) is kinda strange but I don't feel it's really alignment indicative with him being the main wagon. As I can get the same way when I'm a wagon as town.
This seems like a strong overreaction which means you must be feeling pressure.
Just because the case isn’t wrong, doesn’t mean it doesn’t have merit. Those things are actually good to have in the game.
No matter what you say, it’s not a bad case. It’s a case that came from the perspective of a town player, just explaining what they took on a situation, that in itself means it’s not bad. I even stated it might not be correct. It’s day 1. Show it’s incorrect by doing townie things, npdont just say it’s wrong and expect people to believe you.
I didn’t even vote you, and you felt this much pressure. To me, that doesn’t come across as townie.
How many times do I have to respond to the same question, mate?
Spoiler:
I ... HAVE ... JUST ... FINISHED ... A GAME ... WITH ... HIM
I also got the impression he's good at scum, and his play isn't at all "good" if he is indeed scum.
It fo;;ows that I want to give him his space and with people ganging up on him I think it's more likely scum are afraid of him than it is that he's so obv scum to 7 slots when he should be NAI at best.
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