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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:00 pm

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In post 303, ofrhz wrote:
In post 189, RCEnigma wrote: Ofrhz what do you think about Garmr and Creature?
Both leaning town - I think Garmr was omgus'ing a little bit in pushing the Creature wagon, and I'm not seeing the push as scummy even though I disagree with it.
In post 198, profii wrote:@ofrhz - yeah I might be guessing at why you made that town read, but it seemed like you would spot the reason I’m thinking based on that game we just finished
I'll be honest, whatever reasoning you're trying to extract out of me here is completely going over my head

AP town, xx probably town as well

VOTE: flubbernugget
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In post 305, RCEnigma wrote:For the pocket of course, it's worked for now. In general I think creature is town. I liked Garmr pressing him as well.

I want to townread Sephiel but it's not there yet, I probably won't be able to read him as well as last game (naturally) but it's not the same energy despite his head to head with Nosferatu.

Nosferatu, take my town read and like it.
Who is Sephiel? :shifty:
That typo makes me think of Zephiel from the Fire Emblem series, the little shit
In post 311, RCEnigma wrote:Ahh well no to be fair I put the idea of masons in her head because I thought the Sephiroth/invis dynamic was so...odd.

I regret making that post now because if you had come out with your line of thinking I would have had a better read on Ofrhz.
What is this about putting the idea of masons in peoples heads?
In post 317, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 313, Flubbernugget wrote:Neither of them tried reading into motivations for the way each is posting.
wrong on like

both fronts but ok

cool
Ehh I kinda agree with Flubber here
Some elaboration in how he’s wrong might help
In post 319, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 315, Flubbernugget wrote:So this is a pretty big lynch pool. Even for a wip. I am going to be paying close attention to how it gets whittled down.

What does it mean to have players in it that you cant sort? And why cant you sort them?
In a 20 man game I don't see a problem with a wide early game lynchpool.

Why is Carca bolded here but not addressed in your questioning?

Did AP catch a partner or two in that net?
This feels a mite upset about being in the list
In post 321, Sephiroth wrote:I best remember Flubb for helping me win a game as scum despite wavemode having essentially a guilty on me at the time.

Good times.
Relevance?
In post 323, RCEnigma wrote:I meant Sephiroth. And no Invisibility isn't in this game. Profii brought up a recent game he was using to meta Ofrhz, it just involved other players not in this game.
I see. My second question remains.
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:13 pm

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In post 1076, Performer wrote:
In post 553, Performer wrote:
In post 497, DVa wrote:Basically.

How do we measure:
a) the potential value of d1's lynch for informing reads
vs.
b) the dead weight on future days
?
In post 499, ofrhz wrote:a;lksdjfl;kdasjfal;ksdj this seems out of character for you.
pedit: at dva
What does this even mean??
Was this ever answered, ofrhz?
Uhhhh I guess based on past experience, DVa's play is usually "find scum --> lynch scum" rather than "find the highest info lynch"

I'm not sure it's super relevant because there really hasn't been anyone super scummy this game for her to push
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:19 pm

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Theres still a long way before deadline and its making me lazy -.-
Like theres still so much time I'm not pressured to scumhunt. Its still d1 too.

I'll throw some townreads at least
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I forgot the reasons for some of them but they're somehow Town in my list I'll prob redo it later.
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:38 pm

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Haha im above u gamma and i didnt do shit
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Well, now pride's gone out the window
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:50 pm

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In post 1126, ofrhz wrote:I'm not sure it's super relevant because there really hasn't been anyone super scummy this game for her to push
I also wanted to understand why you kinda felt resistance to Sephiroth when I was starting the PoE. I wasn't sure if there was a gut townread there or whether I was just throwing you off by trying a new approach. While I partly gut townread you based on RVS this is lurky even for town you. But I think if you start playing more, and you are town, your reads can be good, so.

I still think Max has decent equity and I actually don't really like his reads list almost at all, but at least he is generating readable content

I think right now the best push is here

VOTE: Flubber
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:02 pm

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In post 1128, Saudade wrote:Haha im above u gamma and i didnt do shit
They're not in order :P
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:03 pm

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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:04 pm

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i wanna say if dva is town then flub probably is as well
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:04 pm

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In post 1125, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 311, RCEnigma wrote:Ahh well no to be fair I put the idea of masons in her head because I thought the Sephiroth/invis dynamic was so...odd.

I regret making that post now because if you had come out with your line of thinking I would have had a better read on Ofrhz.
What is this about putting the idea of masons in peoples heads?
In a recently completed game, RCEnigma and I were scum together. RCE identified some weird interactions between two possible PRs, and I thought those two were masons together based on said weird interactions. It's not really relevant to this game tbh

Gamma is probably town tho yay
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:07 pm

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In post 1132, Nosferatu wrote:i wanna say if dva is town then flub probably is as well
because?
In post 1133, ofrhz wrote:Gamma is probably town tho yay
y?
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:13 pm

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In post 1130, Shattiel wrote:
In post 1128, Saudade wrote:Haha im above u gamma and i didnt do shit
They're not in order :P
Make one in order then
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:14 pm

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And put me at the top
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
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Well, now pride's gone out the window
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:14 pm

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In post 1129, DVa wrote:
In post 1126, ofrhz wrote:I'm not sure it's super relevant because there really hasn't been anyone super scummy this game for her to push
I also wanted to understand why you kinda felt resistance to Sephiroth when I was starting the PoE. I wasn't sure if there was a gut townread there or whether I was just throwing you off by trying a new approach. While I partly gut townread you based on RVS this is lurky even for town you. But I think if you start playing more, and you are town, your reads can be good, so.
You were asking me to move my vote off of your PoE lynch candidate onto another PoE lynch candidate. I didn't see the point, and tbh I was a little suspicious
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:16 pm

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In post 1103, Maxous wrote: Still have the same 3 scum-reads.

Creature
- made a poor start to the game and flailed like crazy when people asked him simple questions about his reads. He's just sheeping the confirmed town now and is not even giving reads anymore.
Propably just trying to stay quiet and let the heat die down on him.

AP
- He has very few scumreads I can find for someone that has written so many posts. I think some of his town reads that he was giving were overly simplistic and fake to the point where i have a hard time believing he was genuine about them.

ofrhz
- I explained here my problem with his early play. Since then he's done nothing but sheep the confirmed town. Could be lazy town i suppose but meh, feels more like low effort scum
I was going to say these are bad, but I'm actually not sure Creature is still town.

I mean, I didn't sheep FL when he dubbed you scum, because I was sort of townreading you. So idk why the hell you're pursuing this angle.
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:17 pm

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In post 1120, Sephiroth wrote:Have we wagoned ofhrz yet and can we?
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you literally just played with scum me. Explain why you want to wagon me right now.
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:20 pm

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In post 1137, ofrhz wrote:You were asking me to move my vote off of your PoE lynch candidate onto another PoE lynch candidate. I didn't see the point, and tbh I was a little suspicious
I mostly wanted to understand your thought process at the time
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:23 pm

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@Jason,
Flubber?
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:29 pm

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In post 1134, DVa wrote:
In post 1133, ofrhz wrote:Gamma is probably town tho yay
y?
I liked his flubbernugget vote, so mainly mindmeld
His catchup might seem a little bit of busywork, but I don't think that's AI based on
- viewtopic.php?t=75314&f=3&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go
- viewtopic.php?t=77101&f=2&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

He seems to just comment on whatever as town
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:31 pm

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In post 1141, DVa wrote:@Jason,
Flubber?
VOTE: Flubber
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:03 pm

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In post 1136, Saudade wrote:And put me at the top
I got you fam.
Just call some random person scum first and pretend you're scum hunting so that I'll have a good excuse to put you as top town ;)
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:58 pm

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No i do not think i only sheep flavor today
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:41 am

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In post 1132, Nosferatu wrote:i wanna say if dva is town then flub probably is as well
I'm inclined to agree with this though I think both of them are scum.
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:43 am

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In post 1106, Garmr wrote:
In post 1104, DVa wrote:What madman has the audacity to call both Garmr and Carcalilly "genuine"?
Am I not genuine?
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:45 am

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That small discourse kind of put me at Sephi > Performer for town.
Sorry boo :'/
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:45 am

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