mini normal 2042: labeled pictures meme mafia (game over)

[xwing]

might be my last chance for the day to look and see, will respond tom (if there's any)..

this implies you swung scum on me at some point? where? why?

it's something I'm kinda constantly reevaluating especially since my strongest townread has you firmly PoE'd, below is an example

if my soul is correct we nuke teacher after floofz
if my soul is incorrect Shoshin is probably even MORE ridiculously good than I thought she was, and also I am very bad at reading newbies

I don't wanna townread Relly rn but he's kinda floating out of my scumdar. unsure if concerning or I'm finally being good at mafia

sorry, i dont follow still? i mean the second part of your sentence..im fine with the re-evaluating part..

[snip]
Responding to walls is fun.
Teacher: Interesting how?
krazy: What do you mean by "got nothing to do with those"? Do you mean its a gutread or that Krazy is intentionally making posts that you cannot read?
Also how is posting meta reads lamist? With that logic you can call declaring intent lamist. Or making an RVS vote lamist.
Ok I'm done

prologue: sorry if it seems i talk too much..find it hard to be concise..will try..
1. interesting because in a way he's implying those scumreading him are scum..from top of my head that's tw and irrel..i got strong town on tw, and town lean on irrel at the start of D2..so nice food for thought, though im not sold and wanna hear more..
2. i said got nothing to "GO" with those early posts, meaning NAI..
3. meta read by itself is fine, even though i dont quite agree with it..what i found lamist was actually posting the links for all of us to see that he's going to meta-dive..hope that's clear..

[FLUFFY WHITE SHEEP]

might be my last chance for the day to look and see, will respond tom (if there's any)..

this implies you swung scum on me at some point? where? why?

it's something I'm kinda constantly reevaluating especially since my strongest townread has you firmly PoE'd, below is an example

if my soul is correct we nuke teacher after floofz
if my soul is incorrect Shoshin is probably even MORE ridiculously good than I thought she was, and also I am very bad at reading newbies

I don't wanna townread Relly rn but he's kinda floating out of my scumdar. unsure if concerning or I'm finally being good at mafia

sorry, i dont follow still? i mean the second part of your sentence..im fine with the re-evaluating part..

[snip]
Responding to walls is fun.
Teacher: Interesting how?
krazy: What do you mean by "got nothing to do with those"? Do you mean its a gutread or that Krazy is intentionally making posts that you cannot read?
Also how is posting meta reads lamist? With that logic you can call declaring intent lamist. Or making an RVS vote lamist.
Ok I'm done

prologue: sorry if it seems i talk too much..find it hard to be concise..will try..
1. interesting because in a way he's implying those scumreading him are scum..from top of my head that's tw and irrel..i got strong town on tw, and town lean on irrel at the start of D2..so nice food for thought, though im not sold and wanna hear more..
2. i said got nothing to "GO" with those early posts, meaning NAI..
3. meta read by itself is fine, even though i dont quite agree with it..what i found lamist was actually posting the links for all of us to see that he's going to meta-dive..hope that's clear..

1. Makes sense.
2. So do you dislike the posts or are they NAI?
3. So? There's nothing wrong with that.

[Irrelephant11]

Why is no one amazed at my proof that sheep is scum
He’s not even denying it

[the worst]

it's kinda like writing a 50,000 word thesis on the fact the sky is blue, or that Irrelephant is awesome

it's very nice but it's also very obvious

[Krazy]

First things first, happy scumday duck!

[Krazy]

Now I'm left in an awkward position since I can't just naked vote flufflez like all the cool kids

I guess I'm going to say intent since that's where my vote would be, but while I do want a claim to get that out of the way, I don't really plan to hammer until we're feeling good about the solve

[Krazy]

just one question before I finally descend into true paranoia madness: is Krazy scum who thought I would be mislynchable because the last time he saw me in action I didn't give a fuck abt mafia and did he expect to resolve his paranoiablock via ascending his read on Shoshin (who is objectively obviously town) and descending his read on me?

free hugs to anyone who can parse this for me bc paranoia is real

To be clear, the reason I had you as a paranoia read is because out of the games we've played together, some of the most recent games I sorted you incorrectly. Most notably, I scumread your replacement in Epic Duel. That game was pretty bad for me so I feel like I've broken my hot streak on correctly sorting you. So really I'm like only 50% correct sorting on you. Epic Duel false positive, Advice Mafia Correct Townread, Supp Correct Scumread, Espeonage's game [correct scumlean but I didn't push you so I count this as a miss personally]

Like I know that my push on you in Supp left an impression, but Epic Duel is still very fresh in my memory, and it's also tilting my read of Sho. (Which I can now talk about since that game has finished)

[Krazy]

Like this is almost something I should ask in postgame but I guess I just need to know, Sho -- wtf is this?

viewtopic.php?t=77435&f=51&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

[teacher]

Can I ask that we withhold L-1 through Saturday?

[teacher]

Why is no one amazed at my proof that sheep is scum
He’s not even denying it

Sheep is scum, but Im not his partner. Thus I view the solve as as an attempt to put us at Lylo even with a claimed scum.

[the worst]

Why is no one amazed at my proof that sheep is scum
He’s not even denying it

Sheep is scum, but Im not his partner. Thus I view the solve as as an attempt to put us at Lylo even with a claimed scum.

Who is?

[teacher]

Without an NKA or reread, Im leaning Elephant. But I want to do both those things.

[teacher]

if my soul is correct we nuke teacher after floof

Got to be honest, this has me wanting to reread you too. I can see scummayor in your play, but I also see TONS of effort to solve. I dont have great leads this game because Im not really playing it. Part of why I want a long day so that I can get time.

[teacher]

And happy belated scumday.

[the worst]

i know i know lining up lynches is a vanilla scumtell
if i'm wrong just find a better solve, i'm really easy to talk out of things <3

And happy belated scumday.

thank you :>

[teacher]

Quick NKA --

• Keyser as a night kill makes sense -- he was probably the most townread player unlikely to be protected (this is gut without rereading the board). I dont think this was a framejob pick.
  
• I view it as town indicative for Krazy because of 568. This was a slot that was getting null-scum from inactivity, and I dont think it would want to remove a potential defender.
  
• I see Elephant as having possibly having scum motives from 488 and 500, to name a few examples when there could be more.
  
• I also see scum motive for Sho - Key was one of the few slots that was questioning the heavy meta case, though they eventually "bought a ticket". While I town Sho as well, the death will make me re-examine that.
  
• Both those scum motives, however, are less important than the town Krazy. Claimed Scum FWS has motive enough from 573 and 442. I could see scum!FWS hoping to Lolhammer and escape for just one day to get to lylo and plant false associations. This makes Key's other scumreads less important.

At this point, and with how D1 ended, I am going to look at the wagon and essentially treat FWS as flipped scum.

[teacher]

soulread 2 scum on wagon bee tee dubz

Inclined to agree, though Im wondering why YOU posted this.

As background, Im a believer that in a 7-2 setup there is normally 1:1. There is a statistical difference between the likelihood of that setup and the likelihood of 2:0. I actually use that difference to form my reads generally.

There are just a couple of issues with using that here. First, I have made this case several times in recent games, meaning anybody who knows my meta knows Im likely to reach that conclusion, and people here have meta read me. Second, if it is 2:0, it is almost always a scum holding the hammer....and look at that, its Sheep with a lolhammer as his slot was coming under fire.

As for you (one of the two off wagon candidates) posting it, Im not inclined to think much. I think you are back being active and addicted to the game. Scum!you does not need to reinforce the town case. You remain locktown for me.

So from wagon analysis, I remain at Scum!sheep, and thinking the partner is likely there too.

[the worst]

basically mostly just based on sheep hammer + offwagon NK
realistically high town equity good NKs (discounting possibility of reads/pockets etc.) were:

d1 final vote count

Carmen (5):

Krazy, Irrelephant11,

Shoshin

, teacher, FLUFFY WHITE SHEEP

FLUFFY WHITE SHEEP (1):

the worst

Irrelephant11 (1):

Carmen

not voting (2):

xwing,

Keyser Söze

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 1 ends november 13th at 12:00 central US time; in (expired on 2018-11-13 12:00:00)

mod notes

• i cannot prod carmen

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i'm voting fws who basically scumclaimed via hammering
shoshin is onwagon but probably the best player to n1 given Very Heavy Townreads and ability to solve
keyso is not voting at eod so NK gives away lowest amount of information and doesn't let us resolve Carmen wagon fully

off chance: scum is {xw, ???} (i.e. I'd lock {xw, FWS} at this point) and decided to 3d chess by leaving the Carmen wagon as entirely unresolved so that we'd nuke the crap out of it
i don't really see a scumteam of xw/fws playing it that way so kinda feeling xw has pretty low partner equity to fws which means once again i'm swinging heavily back to xw being town

i reevaluate this absolutely only ever if fws does green

[the worst]

also sorry if the self-flattery there seems gross
i've been pretty heavily townread this game and was a viable offwagon option (esp vs. xwing who is more heavily disputed and if they're t/t is a goldmine to leave alive with Shoshin)

hope you get where i'm coming from analysis wise with that

[Shoshin]

Maybe we should lynch teacher?

[Irrelephant11]

Hi Shoshin, tell me more

[Irrelephant11]

I feel like teacher's insistence that "tw or elephant is scum because they're pushing for me to go after sheep flips red, which he will do" is poor play but aside from the TMI not all that scum-indicative either
Is there a different reason you want to lynch teacher first

[Irrelephant11]

Am I right in thinking that sheep has basically just agreed that he's scum?

[Shoshin]

It's a feeling I got from his last posts. But who knows? I'm probably wrong.

[Irrelephant11]

I mean you definitely might be right, tbh
It's not like I'm townreading teacher, I just feel like Sheep is very very very likely scum and it would be weird to keep him around intentionally?