Overkill 1: Serenity/Firefly (GAME OVER)

[BuJaber]

If Tails thought Chick being alive would stop us lynching then it makes sense for Tails to JK Chick. Plus gives a good fakeclaim for bg target.

[RightKnight]

Oh you don't mean passive as in Toog didn't have a choice.. you meant that it doesn't specifically target actions. I'm tired and I can barely follow this stuff when I'm not tired sorry.

Yeah so if his LR was passive, then RR should not have gotten any outgoing results.

A Motion Detector should receive the same result if they see an action being performed by their target as they would if they see an action being performed on their target (and the same if they see both).

If their target is Ascetic or targeted by a Rolestopper, they should receive a "No Result" pm, the same as if they'd been blocked themselves.

A Motion Detector would not see a Ninja performing a k.

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah agee with Bu on the JK on Chick.

[Flicker]

@RK:

[...] I would treat the Lightning Rod as "action

targeting

everyone" if that makes any sense.)

I think this means the LR registers as an outgoing action.

Pedit: Yeah, I'm starting to get a little paranoid of Jingle and Gamma too. It seems a little unlikely for Zoe and Wash to just be Masons and nothing else, IMO.

[BuJaber]

That would be taking flavor too far. Masons in mafia is a strong enough role as is. Golden rule of theme games is it still has to be a mafia game in the end.

There's plenty of reasons to want to confirm Jingle and Gamma but saying they should be more based on flavor is a bad reason to suspect them. Especially coming from the person who claimed VT with priest only and we have chara claiming VT with loved only.

[BuJaber]

Wait Tails JKing Chick wouldn't explain the Thor kill right?

What's the timeline on all the actions...it's starting to sound like Elsa should be lynched.

[Elsa Jay]

Wait Tails JKing Chick wouldn't explain the Thor kill right?

What's the timeline on all the actions...it's starting to sound like Elsa should be lynched.

How did it end up with me as the Lynch? Teh fuk?

[RightKnight]

Tails was ...

Spoiler:

Hello

Light Ethos

&

Tails

You are The "Hands of Blue", going by (Hands of Blue 1 & Hands of Blue 2). You are contractors to the Union of Allied Planets and are in pursuit of River and Simon Tam. You kill without mercy using a sonic device that induces massive bleeding from every orifice. [b{You both are Jailkeepers, but the same person can't JK and kill at the same night[/b], and

if you both target each other with the Jailkeep both your actions will fail

. You are also aware that there's an undercover Union of Allied Planets agent working on the same mission, but you don't know who they are (it means

the 3rd member of your team is a Traitor

). You win when the Serenity crew are eliminated (i.e. all town-aligned players are dead) or nothing can stop that from happening.

Important: To avoid flavour gaming; Town players have NOT been given their flavour.

TWO BY TWO, HANDS OF BLUE.

Here is your Hands of Blue/Union of Allied Planets PT.

Thread is now locked and it's Night 3

Please send in you night action before the deadline expires

Night Deadline (expired on 2018-11-08 23:00:00)

Do you really think Tails sacrificed his kill by JKing Chick, rather than kill? With 2 scum and only 1 townie dead, it seems strange.

And then why did Tails push RR lynch, if they could confirm him?

And how do you explain Thor kill then?

[RightKnight]

@RK:

[...] I would treat the Lightning Rod as "action

targeting

everyone" if that makes any sense.)

I think this means the LR registers as an outgoing action.

Pedit: Yeah, I'm starting to get a little paranoid of Jingle and Gamma too. It seems a little unlikely for Zoe and Wash to just be Masons and nothing else, IMO.

@Almost50, can use please confirm whether or not a passive LR, could show up as an action to a MD?

[Flicker]

That would be taking flavor too far. Masons in mafia is a strong enough role as is. Golden rule of theme games is it still has to be a mafia game in the end.

There's plenty of reasons to want to confirm Jingle and Gamma but saying they should be more based on flavor is a bad reason to suspect them. Especially coming from the person who claimed VT with priest only and we have chara claiming VT with loved only.

Yeah, I know it's not a good reason, that's why I phrased it the way I did. I'm just nervous because basically all the claims seem plausible, and I'm not sure if we're dealing with another scum team or not.

Pedit: Elsa claimed to hide behind Thor on N2, but if he actually killed Thor N2, that would make sense. Honestly, this does feel like the best lynch to me today.

VOTE: Elsa Jay

[BuJaber]

Yeah day 1 traitor dies, night 1 Toog activates LR so no kill.
Day 2 we lynch HoB1, so night 2 HoB2 cannot both kill and JK, likely Tails JKed. Elsa claims she lost BP hiding behind Thor though, and we know Thor got killed.
Day 3 we lynch HoB2, night 3 no kills.

So either Tails killed Thor.. which would make sense but doesn't explain who visited Chick
Or Tails JK'd Chick and Elsa lied.

Or Elsa didn't lie and the other scum killed Thor. Which would be hilarious if you ask me.

Okay someone double check my work and tell me which one is most plausible.

[ruru]

votecount

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Malakittens (2):	Toogeloo (4274),	Chara (4275),
Chara (1):	BuJaber (4318),
Elsa Jay (1):	Flicker (4334),
Not voting (8):	Jingle,	RightKnight,	Chickadee,	CheekyTeeky,	Elsa Jay,	Reasonably Rational,	Malakittens,	Gamma Emerald,

(expired on 2018-11-21 23:00:00) remain.

[Chickadee]

Oooo interesting cop on RK. This is what I got.

[Elsa Jay]

I'm literally telling you the information I have for you. N1 I hid behind Cheeky. Fine. N2 is Thor. Lost my BP. N3 did jackshit. I'm alive.

What's so complicated in thinking Thor attacked my slot and HoB killed Thor?

[BuJaber]

Only thing is.. why would Elsa lie about losing BP there.. unless it's to make his story plausible.. but then he would be specifically covering his ass from a tracker type role when nobody could have known we had one..

How many lies is one man going to come up with and keep track of.. hmm

[BuJaber]

I'm literally telling you the information I have for you. N1 I hid behind Cheeky. Fine. N2 is Thor. Lost my BP. N3 did jackshit. I'm alive.

What's so complicated in thinking Thor attacked my slot and HoB killed Thor?

The issue with HoB killing Thor is that who visited Chick then?

[Elsa Jay]

A random ass townie or something. Or our doctor. I don't get what that has to do with you saying I'm the one who killed Thor.

[BuJaber]

Random ass townie would imply a townie that fakeclaimed.

I put forth the 3 possibilities as I see them. I don't think I missed but you're welcome to correct me.

Our cop was on RR.

[BuJaber]

Doc was on RR not cop*

[RightKnight]

Wait Tails JKing Chick wouldn't explain the Thor kill right?

What's the timeline on all the actions...it's starting to sound like Elsa should be lynched.

N2.

Tails never ever said, that RR should be able to confirm his Chick bg, so why JK Chick and not argue that he could be confirmed as bg Chick, by RR?

But why did Tails try to push RR, rather than claim that they can verify his role? That’s the part that isn’t making much sense.

[Elsa Jay]

Then I guess whatever the Reavers are have a rolecop or something then, because they got no reason to roleblock a Daycop.

[BuJaber]

Ftr I'm not saying you have to be scum, as you see in 4339 I have my doubts with the way you went about it, but you killing Thor is 1 out of the 3 possibilities.


Pedit - because he didn't know RR was MD at the time? I don't see what's wrong?

[Elsa Jay]

Then I guess whatever the Reavers are have a rolecop or something then, because they got no reason to roleblock a Daycop.

I realise this is very stupid considering I'm saying they invested the Daycop, but whatever.

Also, can you tell me what I gained from saying I hid on top of Thor and lost my BP? I'm Ascetic so it wouldn't have mattered much anyway wherever I visit since you couldnt track it.

[RightKnight]

Yeah day 1 traitor dies, night 1 Toog activates LR so no kill.
Day 2 we lynch HoB1, so night 2 HoB2 cannot both kill and JK, likely Tails JKed. Elsa claims she lost BP hiding behind Thor though, and we know Thor got killed.
Day 3 we lynch HoB2, night 3 no kills.

So either Tails killed Thor.. which would make sense but doesn't explain who visited Chick
Or Tails JK'd Chick and Elsa lied.

Or Elsa didn't lie and the other scum killed Thor. Which would be hilarious if you ask me.

Okay someone double check my work and tell me which one is most plausible.

Well no vigclaim points to that.

[RightKnight]

Oooo interesting cop on RK. This is what I got.

That seems to fit with our role but I’m kind of disappointed now. I was really hoping a check on us, would clarify our flavour. :/

So, I still have no idea who we are storywise.