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Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:18 pm

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In post 1469, Kokichi Oma wrote:UNVOTE:

dunn did you ever tell me why you're trying so hard this game?
I can try however hard I want without it being AI
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Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:19 pm

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In post 1488, the worst wrote:gonna go do more work irl now but i'll bbl, someone should hang out with me

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i soberposted an obnoxious blinkie you had all better sheep me
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Pedit: aw fuck dunn
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Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:19 pm

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In post 1499, the worst wrote:Dunn vote Snowman with me?
I don't scumread Snowman and the way Ruby latched on to your scumread of snowman while they had no read at all there previously is very telling
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Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:27 pm

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wrong
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Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:29 pm

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i haven't "latched on" to anything. i moved two people up to town from my previous readslist and decided to merge the other two tiers given their small size. i clearly talked about moving maria up to town before and i feel alright about the ducky being town for now
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Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:30 pm

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like the progression throughout these three posts is not complicated to follow. if you want to try to paint me as scum at least do it on a point that could actually be argued - don't just straight up lie.

In post 1357, Ruby Red wrote:moving chara to town btw for the irl anxious thing, i felt the exact same way this game and even messaged ag to just vent about it

{kokichi, lady angel, RUBYRED, purr, carca, perf, chara}
{maria, joey, snowman, A50}
{elsa, dunn, alonzo}
In post 1395, Ruby Red wrote:actually tbh maria should probably just be in the top row

for some reason she does't feel like voting scum!dunn which gave me pause but looking past that she's probtown
In post 1489, Ruby Red wrote:spicy takes.

{elsa, dunn, alonzo, snowman, A50} is the game winning wolf poe.
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Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:32 pm

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In post 1502, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1499, the worst wrote:Dunn vote Snowman with me?
I don't scumread Snowman and the way Ruby latched on to your scumread of snowman while they had no read at all there previously is very telling
Why do you townread Snowman and scumread Ruby? I'm sorry, I don't have a strong feeling about her reaction to approving of my distaste on Snowman yet so I'm gonna have to stall on talking about that
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Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:34 pm

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In post 1057, Dunnstral wrote:
25.8 posts per day - 722 posts/28 days - NY 213 - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=76567

12.9 posts per day - 220 posts/17 days - Open 739: Epic Duel - viewtopic.php?f=51&t=77435

12 posts per day - 180 posts/15 days - Open 736: Diffusion of Power - viewtopic.php?f=51&t=77349

8.46 posts per day - 203 posts/24 days - Mini Normal 2024 - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=76996

8.36 posts per day - 326 posts/39 days - Mini 2032: Children of Hurin Mafia - viewtopic.php?f=23&t=77310

7.72 posts per day - 247 posts/32 days - micro 816-II: pokemon go - viewtopic.php?f=83&t=76964

6.1 posts per day - 122 posts/20 days - Mini Normal 2033: Dolphins - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77289

5.5 posts per day - 155 posts/28 days - Mini 2032: TAZ Mafia: Murder on the Rockport Limited - viewtopic.php?f=23&t=77242

4.88 posts per day - 161 posts/33days - Open 737: Stack the Deck - viewtopic.php?f=51&t=77146

4 posts per day - 36 posts/9 days - THIS GAME (with no night phases and posts from another game included)
3.3 posts per day - 53 posts/16 days - THIS GAME, extrapolated to after night 1 with a full day phase, with posts from another game removed
3.29 posts per day - 214 posts/65 days - Mini Normal 2030 - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77190

2.25 posts per day - 99 posts/44 days viewtopic.php?f=52&t=70810

2.19 posts per day - 68 posts/31 days - Mini Normal 1925 - viewtopic.php?f=53&t=72508



But I haven't factored out night phases. Some games, like the 4.88 posts per day town game, had a night phase that lasted ~4 days that skewered the stats. Additionally, this game hasn't had any night phases, which further skewers the stats in relation to this game so his post count appears higher than what it would be. Furthermore, Creature made posts that were intended for another game topic in this thread, further inflating his own postcount in a matter I'd deem unfair to consider in this game.

But you know what? we can extrapolate the results - we subtract 2 posts from his postcount (34/9), then multiply his post count and days by 1.55, bringing us to 53 posts/14 days, almost perfectly. Then, we add 2 more days to simulate the night phase - 53 posts/16 days, and now we have a fair extrapolation of his contributions - I've added the results above.

Even then, his posts per day is still likely too high than it would be if he weren't replaced and kept playing the game - he really worked on inflating his post count early on in this game.

As a bonus, I'll show off how very real Creature activity meta is, and how it's handled in other games:

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Now obviously this was
A) from almost 2 years ago
B) made for micro games, while this is a large game

So I'm not going to try to interperet stats and compare to these charts, but this proves that creature meta was - AND STILL IS - a very big deal in reading him.

But wait, it gets better, let's look at Creature's self-made wiki page to see what he thinks about this:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Creature
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Now let's stop ignoring the MATHMATICALLY LIKELY scumslot - the slot that is very high probability statistical scum - Don't act like you guys can read RUby Red when you don't even know whose alt it is, just go for blatant scummeta Creature who happens to be the same slot

VOTE: Ruby Red
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Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:38 pm

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you realise that's like a wall of maths spam about Creature's old meta right? I think there's a world where that case comes from town but his lines are blurring hard and also check sitewide activity
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Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:40 pm

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His sitewide activity is fine and he's been playing in other games ever since he replaced out of this one, and the meta still holds up
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Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:41 pm

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also his entire contribution to this game was rocking up a couple of days late, townreading players a la cross out list town!Creature, being positioned as scum, posting stating that he was irritated and bored because of it and then being ignored by players

that is the literal number of posts he made. the dude can actually post as scum these days, which he himself acknowledged ITT.

Anything other than an activity read?
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Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:41 pm

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In post 1508, the worst wrote:you realise that's like a wall of maths spam about Creature's old meta right? I think there's a world where that case comes from town but his lines are blurring hard and also check sitewide activity
Anybody can say things

I don't see why I should believe what you're saying over literally dozens of games of experience that proves otherwise
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Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:41 pm

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yeah I just checked sitewide activity as well, I feel it's lower than it has been historically but basically I would have liked to see him here more as well
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Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:42 pm

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In post 1510, the worst wrote:Anything other than an activity read?
Sure, read the rest of the game, I don't feel like bringing it up just to be ignored anyway
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Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:43 pm

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In post 1511, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1508, the worst wrote:you realise that's like a wall of maths spam about Creature's old meta right? I think there's a world where that case comes from town but his lines are blurring hard and also check sitewide activity
Anybody can say things


I don't see why I should believe what you're saying over literally dozens of games of experience that proves otherwise
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this is forum mafia
what the fuck else are you reading based on?

this feels like you've found a smoking gun on a lynch that isn't you so you're tunnelling it to duck eating the lynch.. agree/disagree?
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Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:43 pm

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In post 1512, the worst wrote:I feel it's lower than it has been historically
Is checking Creature's site-wide activity a regular activity for you?

Isn't that weird, if his activity in games doesn't matter anymore (your own words)
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Post Post #1516 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:44 pm

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In post 1514, the worst wrote:
In post 1511, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1508, the worst wrote:you realise that's like a wall of maths spam about Creature's old meta right? I think there's a world where that case comes from town but his lines are blurring hard and also check sitewide activity
Anybody can say things


I don't see why I should believe what you're saying over literally dozens of games of experience that proves otherwise
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this is forum mafia
what the fuck else are you reading based on?

this feels like you've found a smoking gun on a lynch that isn't you so you're tunnelling it to duck eating the lynch.. agree/disagree?
Disagree because I could have just pushed performer
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Post Post #1517 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:44 pm

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and gotten that lynch
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Post Post #1518 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:44 pm

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you know i replaced him like ten minutes after ag posted in the thread, right?
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Post Post #1519 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:44 pm

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He was prodded 3 times.
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Post Post #1520 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:46 pm

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And ruby red's push on me past the early game has been gross
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Post Post #1521 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:47 pm

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In post 1515, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1512, the worst wrote:I feel it's lower than it has been historically
Is checking Creature's site-wide activity a regular activity for you?

Isn't that weird, if his activity in games doesn't matter anymore (your own words)
I mean yeah I've used his proportionate sitewide activity to inform and reinforce my reads before but no, I like to think I read him for his content and not exclusively based on angleshooting out of thread reads

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Post Post #1522 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:48 pm

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In post 1516, Dunnstral wrote:Disagree because I could have just pushed performer
Noted. I'll keep this in mind.
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Post Post #1523 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:48 pm

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In post 1521, the worst wrote:I mean yeah I've used his proportionate sitewide activity to inform and reinforce my reads before
How long ago?
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Post Post #1524 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:49 pm

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How are you actually reading Ruby tho?
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In post 1521, the worst wrote:I mean yeah I've used his proportionate sitewide activity to inform and reinforce my reads before
How long ago?
basically up until a couple of months ago maybe

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